http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/business/economy/as-graduates-move-back-home-economy-feels-the-pain.html
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
pent-up households
― ooh i love my loaf n jug! (silby), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
"a handyman to hang a newly framed diploma"..?
a HANDYMAN TO HANG A DIPLOMA? who even thinks like that? even enough to make a not-very-clearly-signposted joke about it?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
“I have it pretty good at home, since it’s so close to my work, and financially I just feel like it’s smarter for the long run to buy,” he said. He says that living with his parents enables him to set aside about half of each paycheck. “It’s like I pay rent, but to myself.”
haha i totally see the camera swinging over to his dad, who is gritting his teeth
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
it's pretty pragmatic! I would totally want to live w/ my parents if they lived somewhere where jobs for 20-somethings were
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
rly don't understand parents who make their children pay rent but I guess that's just 'the american way'
― dayo, Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
it's like the economic version of calling your parents by their first name
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
(unless your parents are struggling w/$, obv)
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah. but making your kid pay rent to 'teach them' about 'becoming independent' is, well
― dayo, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
i like the unsubtle undertone in that article of blaming young people with jobs for the economy not being better.
― j., Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
i did that after college and a failed 6-mo. stint in DC. it was great. i waited tables, had obscene amounts of fun, stayed out of my parents' hair and they stayed out of mine. i did not pay them rent and basically just slept in the attic periodically, ate some of their food (not much, i worked at a lol health food restaurant and ate there most of the time), and used their phone.
― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
i was also only there for 6 mo., not indefinitely
― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
it's def less stressful when you know there's an end date
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
i also have virtually no ambition, so doing this was not really a huge crushing disappointment for me
― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
still if my parents lived in the nyc metro region I'd so be cool w/ not helping the nyc rental market rebound, esp now that I don't live w/ my gf anymore
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
if i didnt have a girlfriend id most likely move back in with my parents
stupid girlfried
― max, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
correct response is "can I have yours"
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
oops meant for ows thread
I dont want yr gf I am sure she is nice tho
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
you cant have her, anyway
― max, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
we could trade?
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
lol like i would trade a nyc girlfriend for a NEW HAVEN one
― max, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah...it's a pretty crappy trade you basically have to half live in new haven, going again today
her apt is a lot nicer and cleaner than mine tho, so it's not all bad
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
haha no i mean, not judging that dude at all, but the way he says "it's like i'm paying rent...... to myself!!" it sounds as though he thinks he's discovered some magic secret thing
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 November 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
I crashed with my parents for about 4 or 5 months post-college. No big deal there.
― mh, Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
i left home when i was 17 and went back a year later for six weeks and then got thrown out with my younger sister. we moved into a flat and quit university and went on the dole and sat around bitching about 'them' for hours on end. most days we wore these full-length, lace-collared, high-necked, floral-sprigged, port-stained, cigarette-singed brushed cotton nighties that our mother had given us for christmas the year before. we were too tired to get dressed until almost evening and also we were scruffs. audience feedback soon taught us to mix some humour and self-deprecation in with the pathos and the bitterness, and to hide our genuine deep sorrow and anxiety. any story featuring getting hit with a snorkel was a guaranteed crowd pleaser; i think the crowd never grasped how much pain a snorkel can inflict upon a teenage girl.
― estela, Friday, 18 November 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
I was wallowing in a depth of sorrow until the inexplicable snorkel reference, then questioned whether I was allowed a moment of levity or if it was a bizarre irony that an instrument of pain should be so ridiculous
― mh, Friday, 18 November 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
of course it's allowed, we were enjoying ourselves immensely, free at last and holding court in our grimy nightgowns.
― estela, Friday, 18 November 2011 05:46 (twelve years ago) link
what is a snorkel?
― dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link
estela that is a beautiful post
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
xp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70xf4i1lgg
― questino (seandalai), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link
what is a google xx-p
― mh, Friday, 18 November 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
I know a snorkel is something you use to breathe underwater, was just wondering if it had any other meaning.
― dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
it is also something you use to beat your recalcitrant daughters
― Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
it's also something whiney gives to his more fortunate victims
― dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
lol
for accuracy's sake, as much as i don't like people hitting their children, 'beat' in this case is somewhat over-egging the pudding.
― estela, Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
xp thank you tracer
― estela, Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.epi.org/blog/unpaid-internships-economic-mobility/
― iatee, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2012/01/05/essay-new-approach-defend-value-humanities
talks a good talk but not seeing a lot of WANTED: ENGLISH MAJORS job ads, maybe I'm not looking in the right places
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/01/09/010912-news-college-costs-1-5/
― iatee, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
Back in the days of yore, before Bangalore, my mad english major skillz made me a good living as a technical writer. Or maybe is was my technical skillz that did it. Any way, it was one or the other.
― Aimless, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
well, you also weren't a hindoo
― gnome rocognise gnome (remy bean), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
nay, nor no vindaloo-sot, neither
― Aimless, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/education/edlife/one-percent-education.html?src=recg&pagewanted=all
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Sunday, 22 January 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
Not very insightful or newsworthy imo, the 1% thing is kind of just a hook. Who isn't aware that Harvard et al are full of high-functioning super-keen workaholic children of upper-middle class to upper-class parents? The reason that demographics at elite universities are a demographic issue is not because the top 20 US colleges provide anything like a standard deviation better education than the next 200 colleges; it's the (alleged) resulting insularity of the social networks that develop at those schools. Really tho I suspect that whatever outcome disparity exists between people with BAs from Harvard vs. SUNY Stony Brook—a world-class university according to the usual rankers—looks a lot less significant when you compare students with similar pre-college backgrounds.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 23 January 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://hechingerreport.org/content/free-courses-may-shake-universities-monopoly-on-credit_7426/
― iatee, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
Not very insightful or newsworthy imo
yeah p much
― i was a preteen blogger (Lamp), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
i do love that xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/23/udacity-and-the-future-of-online-universities/
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/opinion/sunday/the-entrepreneurial-generation.html?pagewanted=all
did this ever get mentioned on ILX? I see some truth to the entrepreneurial spirit yada yada yada, but I don't see it as commercialism and complete lack of rebellion and dissent, I think it's about trying to establish a life outside of the failed system of corporate capitalism, even if it's just a sideline to the job that pays your bills.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link