2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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MSNBC is still my favorite of the cable news networks, but only because it has Keith Obermann, who I like, because he's bright, articulate and since he doesn't challenge any of my preexisting views.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

Even Olbermann is becoming insufferable at times now. Why don't they just give Rachel Maddow her own show...like NOW?!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I like her too. She's bright, articulate and doesn't challenge any of my preexisting views.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

i like them best cause when youve got mathews oberman and russert together in the same room its all kinds of delightful crazy self-regard bonanza

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, maddow is great. and olberman, who i have always loved, is really hard to take in big doses.

YGS, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

ho snap!

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

clinton: nooooo dont u understand healthcare is myyyyy thing

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

obama: yr a whiner lady

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

comcast took my msnbc away a couple months back and their website's WATCH DEBATE LIVE NOW STREAMING VIDEO HOO HAH is not working. Please keep my updated with the zings.

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

Don't worry about MSNBC's website. You can watch the debate on more obscure websites without bandwidth problems. I'm watching it from the website of the Zanesville Times Recorder:

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

Nathan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:17 (eighteen years ago)

I don't see how Clinton bitching about the media is going to change any minds.

Nathan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

Just tuned in. Has HRC been this defensive all along? "Before I start, let me say that over the course of the past few debates, I've consistently been asked to answer the tough questions first, see SNL for an accurate parody of this."

OH MY!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

I've only vaguely paid attention, but she seems not terrible tonight - sober, serious, wonkish without being intellectual or using Senate-speak. The real Hillary. Show, don't tell.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

her campaign manager said something similar yesterday daniel. "SNL is really putting the screws to you media types!" it was pretty wow.

And thanks a bunch for the link, Nathan!

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

also I like her suit < / sexism> tho I think it was probably the wrong thing to wear on Tyra

gabbneb, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

xpost - No problem.

BTW, does anyone think Clinton seems pretty angry right now? Obviously her campaign has had some problems with MSNBC, and throughout this she's been walking a thin line between forceful and pissed-off. It's a risky move.

Nathan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

LOL at HRC citing David Gergen for support.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

Besides fighting for labor and environmental protections, how can any presidential candiate rail against or repeal NAFTA?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

Man Obama is stealing Hillary's talking points left and right

31g, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

hiiiiillary you were the first lady - that doesnt count as foreign policy experience gaaaaaaah

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

Obama sure seems in control of this debate, but maybe I'm not seeing enough of it.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

theyre both looking pretty on point tonight

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

hillary is maybe reaching a tad

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

Obama's answer was excellent -- but bombing a sovereign nation w/out its leader's permission?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

does tim russert think that he is running for president?

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

Obama is v. comfortable on these foreign policy questions, despite his much-touted "lack of experience."

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

im enjoying russert taking the role of iraq here

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

tim russert is winning this debate so far

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

GET OUT MY COUNTRY

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

tim russert drinks diet sunkist

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

tim russert is my new bicycle

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

nice Russert smackdown

gabbneb, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

BAD ANSWER, HRC. The whole point of Presidential campaigns is to consider hypotheticals.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.freesqueeze.com/images/TimRussert.jpg

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

(I know Russert is a hit-and-run artist, but the way he set them up on that question was pretty masterful).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

russerts gonna make them kiss the ring before the nights over

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

No. Look at her stare. HRC is sizing up Obama for the kill.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

(OH, HAHA, I THOUGHT YOU SAID RUSSERT WOULD MAKE HRC/OBAMA KISS)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't think Clinton's strategy of yelling a lot is going to draw many people to her camp.

Nathan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

...and russert doesn't let her make the kill

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

uh oh while they are away for commercial clinton might actually murder one of these two for cutting her off.

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

She will plow through Russert like a hot knife through butter to slash Obama's throat.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

Thank goodness for the commercial break. Just enough time to catch 2 minutes of "Namaste Yoga" on FitTV.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/16_hillarydebate_lg.jpg
now let me ask you a question mr russert what if big russ came back to life and told you that if you killed one thousand american babies you and him could live for eternity in a cosmic rainbow cloud castle - WHAT WOULD U DO THEN HUUH?

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

oh this should be fantastic.

Clay, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

gah the endless hillary fake smiling/laughing gaaaaaah

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

Palpatine's laugh is warmer.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

This answer by Obama isn't as powerful as it could be. He has pretty detailed position papers and is well-versed on policy. He should say so.

(i.e., it's not just about 2 or 3 anecdotal examples of things he's done).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

The AP likes the phrase "trade jabs" a lot

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:56 (eighteen years ago)

takes a fighter to lose lol

jhøshea, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:57 (eighteen years ago)


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