I did like that they kept the voice.
― kingfish, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link
they practically had mike the cool person saying 'your puny weapons are no match for our superior intellect'
― Alan, Sunday, 27 April 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
i would like Sontaran/Judoon army/police face-off - surely the latter are harder
― blueski, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Just breaking my self-imposed Doctor Who thread avoidance to point out that Sontarans are fucking awesome and if you don't agree fuck you.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
loltarans
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
sonnedtarans in internet beef
― blueski, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
IM IN YR PLANET
http://www.sf-radio.net/doctorwho/charaktere/bilder/sontaran.jpg
BREAKIN ALL YR SATNAVS
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
attack of the killer potatoes more like
― Ed, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Potato-faced Prussians with a short man complex and a release valve in the back of their necks are about a kajillion times more fun than twatting Daleks.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
close run thing though
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I was trying to explain to Mrs V why I love them so much and I can't, really. Something about them just triggers some primeval pleasure node in my brain.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
never seen you and a sontaran in the same room, to be honest
― blueski, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes obviously I'm aware of the significance of my empathising with the short, dumpy, potato-faced, scrap-happy dudes.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5916/4647212mg0.jpg
Me, earlier today.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link
- the hand reaching up from the glowing bubbling gloop was PURE PULP awesomeness (both (all three?) times)
- was the fact that Martha was exactly the same after her reprogramming an intentional joke or not?
- the donna/doctor moment when she realizes she needs to go check in with the family was such a sublime moment of acting by both of them - tate really is tennant's equal, at least within the confines of this show
- what's with the "donna/doctor" thing anyway? it's like a joke they've carried through.. are they one person somehow?? why did she get a salute?
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been really pleasantly surprised by Tate so far. I'm not a fan of her comedy, but she can certainly inhabit a character. She sure shows up Freema's rather underdeveloped acting skills.
― chap, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Going off Tate and her role as Russell Davies' conscience week by week.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Thought they was going to launch into Culture Club's "War Song" at some point tonight.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
The embryo in the bubbling vat was the creepiest thing in nu-Who since The Controller at the end of series one.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
poor old gramps, he finally meets an alien and then gets trapped in his car and suffocates. while the doctor only occasionally races back to it to futilely try the door again.
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Was wondering why nobody tried to smash the window.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
no see the glass of the window itself was remotely DEADLOCKED® by the sontarans
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmmmmm.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
The Sontaran's strategem seems kind of sneaky for a race so into honour and shit. I thought that was kind of their hook, that they were honourable? Or are they just all talk?
― chap, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Cribbins is so not dead.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Better not be, or I'll cry real tears.
― JimD, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm pretty comfortable with watching him cark it.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 27 April 2008 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
No way is he dying off the back of a cliffhanger. Perhaps he'll die of boredom when the Sontarans start talking again.
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 27 April 2008 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, I have to admit rather enjoying that one, which I did not expect when I saw it was written by the same person who did the rubbish Daleks-in-Manhattan one. As long as this one isn't solved by electrically-conducted DNA.
And I was really expecting to hate Catherine Tate, but I'm really enjoying her so far. Good stuff.
― James Morrison, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link
In the interests of science, here is a direct comparison of series 3 and 4 so far:
Smith and Jones>>>>Partners in Crime The Shakespeare Code<<<The Fires of Pompei Gridlock<Planet of the Ood Daleks in Manhatten<<The Sontaran Strategem
So far S4 is wining by 2 '>'s.
― chap, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I do like the UFO-spotter grandpa as Donna's confidante; them sharing a delight in Donna's secret adventures from the blowhard RTD-style mum. Assuming he isn't wiped out next ep, I hope he's kept on as a device for Donna to check in with from time to time. Give her one of those amped-up cellphones, help her to keep centered.
Hell, with Rickey/Mickey off in other-other land, somebody's gotta keep up whoisdoctorwho, what with the only other site admin being taken out by autons in the pilot ep.
― kingfish, Monday, 28 April 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm expecting nobody smashed in the car window with a brick or something because that's how they're going to resolve the crisis next week - they always resolve cliffhangers but doing something cheap and easy. Like saying "Go to your room!" to the gas mask monsters, or, um, however they didn't die in the Dalek two-parter last year ("hey Human Dalek, don't kill us." "Okay.")
I'm enjoying Catherine Tate immensely, she and Tennant have great actorly chemistry. When the Doctor got all soppy saying goodbye and she just let him go on, feeding him more and more rope...awesome. Donna and the Doctor get on so well that it's making me retroactively fatigued with all the S3 Martha/Ten crush nonsense.
― reddening, Monday, 28 April 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, the Tennant/Tate partnership is done superbly, and Donna is a very well realised character. Martha bleh, I don't miss her at all.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 28 April 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link
So I had to watch the last two (thanks Ed) and the Ood one was fantastic. Love some of the actors they've been getting in (Ayesha Dharker) and no, I really don't mind implied criticism of sweatshops in mainstream entertainment.
I'm not so down on Martha as you all are. And yeah, super creepy clone-o-vat.
― suzy, Monday, 28 April 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
If RTD has done one thing this season, he appears to have shown he can turn around the Taters, we are now beyond tolerating her, and actually enjoying her presence. It reminds me that there are more types of Who companion to try out (and that the lovelorn girl is actually a relatively new one).
Donna has the complicity of Romana II, with the morality of Sarah Jane? Certainly Tennant and Tate's chemistry feels more Baker and Sladen than any other we've had (ie she thinks he's great, and is enjoying the adventures, but has a fair bit of pause to thought about situations).
Why would you create a Sick Days folder if you knew you were never going to use it? And surely creating clone Martha is just so the Doc can watch her die / kill her himself?
― Pete, Monday, 28 April 2008 09:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I still think she's crap, sorry. The idea for the character is great but every time she starts getting shouty it reminds me that Tate really cannot act, and not in a low-key Martha way either. She's better at the emo stuff.
― Matt DC, Monday, 28 April 2008 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I've only ever seen a total of about three minutes of her previous work -- could that make a difference? Cause I believe every single thing she does in this show. It could just be down to me liking her character a lot more. Imagine her dealing with Captain Jack, for instance.
I liked how she's been in what, four episodes so far and she's already had a montage flashback!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 April 2008 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link
ha I hated that bit - it would have played better and funnier if that montage had run before she totally psyched the Doc out with her "I have to go home" routine.
But I did love how she and Martha get along instantly and there's no Rose-Sarah Jane type bickering at all.
― Roz, Monday, 28 April 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought this while watching, but then the Judoon are basically too thick to be much of a match for an alien race with proper strategies.
I am absolutely looking forward to a Donna-Jack moment.
― Anna, Monday, 28 April 2008 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the suggestion that once you hand the reins of empire over to a bratty, dickish American he'll immediately encourage fuel consumption, cut deals with warmongers and threaten to engulf us all in a planet-wide conflagration
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 April 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"Go to your room" was genuinely clever and unexpected though. The Dalek one was a bit crap, yeah. That's the trouble with bathos as a dramatic device, it's very easy to overuse.
― chap, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i hated the Cyberman one where he did some laser beam thing with a ring he pulled out of nowhere
― blueski, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
the Human Dalek thing wasn't a sticky cliffhanger tho. it was just 'heeeey check THIS out'
― blueski, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
The human Dalek thing was brilliant, until we saw where it all went.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 28 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
The Rani absolutely must come back now. Licence to kitsch like crazy.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 07:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Somewhere, Lance Parkin is fuming...
― carson dial, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"Back of the neck!"
― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
As self-referential gags go the "are you my mummy?" line was a good one.
― DavidM, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
enjoyed the uk news "it's like dunkirk" and then the american news "it's a biblical plague".
pretty good one, i thought. don't much about who history, so can someone please explain the daughter thing?
― Gukbe, Sunday, 4 May 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link
When a daddy Timelord and a mummy Timelord love each other very much ...
― Alba, Sunday, 4 May 2008 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link