Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

On the other hand, Troi's mother was AWESOME.

And the original ST's music was Varese-influenced, hey? Hmmmm ... never knew that! Maybe I should go over to that "Who Opened Your Ears" thread in ILM and change an answer or two of mine :-)

Troi's mom was cooler than Troi, not more attractive! Aigh, my eyes!

troi: not attractive.

crusher: nuh-uh.

troi's mom: uh.

that guy who was troi's mom's butler or something and was the guy who played lurch in the addams family movies: mrowr.

question: who liked first contact? it was like a next generation episode, only like, cool. plus, supercool supporting cast with alfre woodard and the farmer guy from babe.

someone start a star wars thread so i can bitch about how much that sucks except for empire strikes back.

hey i just remembered something else i liked in next generation, although it's from that bastard movie where kirk dies (falling off a walkway! the fuck? he's saved the universe like two hundred times and he falls of a walkway and dies? fuck). um anyway, i liked when data said 'shit'.

Andrew L has not mentioned his great expertness in this area, for some reason. I know about it because I very briefly worked under him on a Star Trek magazine!

Enterprise - trip is annoying but that vulcan's fit.

first series: like what i haf seen but haven't watched many episodes.

Next generation: only reached goodeness after the Borg came in the picture.

Deep space nine: deeply flawed (a space station in the middle of nowhere and they had to make a war to make it interesting so it had problems just like next generation) though I did watch most of it.

Voyager: the absolute fucking classic. They are stranded and haf to go back but they explore the other side of the quadrant which means all sorts of storylines, (this aspect is exploited to the full) and if that isn't enough then here are the words that settle this argument.

SEVEN OF NINE.

The woman of my dreams (Troi is an ugly witch compared to my seven). She's like Data (both trying to gain 'humanity') but she's a woman. And what a woman. Then the doctor who i think is rilly rilly funny too.

I was pissed off that my brother missed taping two episodes and I made him aware of that to say the least(only six were taped, I had to spend all night watching them on the day i got back from canada and it was time well spent though seven is breaking my heart trying to 'get' chakotay).

(Fun fact: The student services building at my school is called the William Shatner building & even has the Shatner Ballroom. Classic!)

DO YOU SEE!!?

heh. Alex (my brother's name) would never say 'improv' as he doesn't know what that is. or wants to know.

Good: Wrath Of Khan, The Voyage Home (time travel, whales), The Undiscovered Country (Peace with the Klingons), First Contact (The Borg hit Earth), hopefully Nemesis

Bad: Star Trek: the Motionless Picture, The Search For Spock, The Final Frontier (Crazy Vulcan searches for God), Generations (Malcom MacDowell froths, Kirk dies), Insurrections (not that terrible, just a double length TNG episode).

Having finally seen the trailer, my hopes for the film are now quite high.

ARGH. Now I'm massively disappointed as well!

So while I can see the intrinsic appeal of the attractiveness of the women in late STrek progs, I can't see it as a tribute to the imagination, skill and integrity of the programme makers.

There is hope left in this sad world.

Riker and Troi get married in the new movie...

And of course:

http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~pg02/khan.png

"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!"

http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~lthomas/nerd.jpg

Between the ages of 11 and 16 or so, I collected some 100+ of the novels, which I'm hoping to pick up out of storage from my parents' house for some between-semesters pulp reading. Because they were all from different authors, they ran the range of being shoot-em-up's, cheesy comedies, psychological thrillers, and really quite provocative sci-fi that just happened to have the Star Trek characters involved.

Hm, that actually would be a good way to get in some sharp ideas via a larger superstructure. Wonder if the Star Wars novels have said range. (I am not anxious to find out for myself.)

I remember it getting pretty good near the end, although I only caught episodes here and there.

Did they deliberately pick an actor (Trip) who looked like George Bush?

Maybe you have to be from the UK, but I didn't mind Reed, having some leftover warmth from watching him in "Desmond's"

Scott Bakula is very "we wanted Mark Harmon but he said no"

Overall, at the time anyway, as a Trek family who enjoyed Voyager, we totally noped out of this show after the pilot

Agree it just felt too AMURRICAN in a way Trek never felt before

i wonder if you wouldn't mind awfully if i could sacrifice myself for the good of the crew, captain

I don't actively like Reed but still prefer him to Trip.

The skip guide I was following recommended Congenitor but then when I looked at its IMDB page immediately knew it would not be for me.

See I never had a issue with Bakula's acting in ENT. Also, I liked the whole temporal cold war story. I especially liked that it got tied later on to Discovery!

Also ENT wins purely for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKWmtQCde0

i feel like the temporal cold war *could* have been good, maybe? but it never made any sense! why does silik sometimes help the humans and sometimes attack them? who is his boss, the mysterious future guy who can't actually time travel but can nevertheless fuck with silik's genetic enhancements? feel like it simply never went anywhere before petering out

imo the SNW ep with la'an and alternate-kirk going back to toronto did that sort of thing much better

also that voyager ep with bruce mcgill

oh raffi

https://i.postimg.cc/zXMkqcMt/bafkreihqiazkskrbfg4wxh2w36kla76rt2f2pdgwnmyohccuywi2z33yzi.jpg

(still better than the other raffi tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0sjDkoNgfY

Academy premiere is free on YouTube (at least in the US).

‘Arry Potter you’re an Ensign

Ok that was actually really good!

These are a fucking trip:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsNOqjr2meCbx6zlXTT3yw5z8-Ln1A8s-

Fixed link with the - at the end

What is this? Is it the Trek equivalent of one of those "Jimi and Kurt, jamming in the afterlife" Facebook posts?

I liked the grimy shot of robots cleaning the old Enterprise off the planet floor

They're more official than random slop, and instead of being purely gen AI, they use real actors wearing "digital prosthetics" to look like 90s Shatner.

Wonder what it even takes to get licensing from Paramount after Axanar.

Ah, that sight has a whole bunch of stuff related to The Roddenberry Archive.

yes this was produced by the roddenberry archive and and Shatner and Nimoy's estate were involved. I think it was primarily made as a demo of the OTOY digital technology.

as far as the story motivation, they felt it was lame that Spock died offscreen in Beyond (which I never watched) and the idea is that this would take place after Kirk's death in Generations in an afterlife where timelines are nebulous. I think it succeeds and is quite touching.