Queer Eye For The Straight Guy WTF

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yeah WTF was up with his peer group; they were like a pack of Jesuses roaming the streets of Manhattan.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 21 July 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

!!! Teeny's image is a beautiful thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 July 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
And actually, given the last line in this story, maybe Teeny was strangely prescient.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

hurrah! That's a nice story too.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Kressley admits he couldn't have imagined "in 2 million years" that the show would strike the cultural nerve that it has. "It's happened because we have no political agenda. We're all just about having a good time and making people feel better about themselves ... I'm also pretty amazed at how much we're able to get away with on this show. An awful lot gets left in. And I have the restraining orders to prove it."

May I say how much I adore this guy? Thankyouvery much:>

Since QE debuted on Bravo, I've been glued to my set every Tuesday night. Imagine gay guys that actually have fashion sense;>

Teeny: If you thought Butch was funny, just wait til they show you the Staten Island cop with the hot model girlfriend(!) that has to be taught to show her a good time....

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah WTF was up with his peer group; they were like a pack of Jesuses roaming the streets of Manhattan.

True, but when was the last time you saw Jesus clad in Prada?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

apparently my college friend Josh Diaz will be on tonight's episode.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh Nichole, I totally have every episode! I've been looking forward to hstencil's friend as well. Although last week with the fabio guy and his greek momma, that'll be so hard to beat. "I fell like I made five new friends today." Awwww.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

TELL me about it! I so wanted to hug him---even though he could have easily crushed me

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

the funny thing is Josh isn't nearly as much of a slob now as he was in college. If the show was on back then, they would've needed like a three-parter episode just to clean his room.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

(did you see the QE males on the VMA's (MTV) last week? Pauvre Jimmy Fallon---though he well fit in.)

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i hate this show and i've never even seen it! it just sounds like a bunch of "Boys in the Band" stereotypes, no?? one's a hairdresser and another one's an interior design expert, etc. gay guys as cute little pets/servants/culture know-it-alls. we've come a long way, baby!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, to me, this show plays with the stereotypes: "Sure I know the part I'm playing, but I do it with a bit of a wink." Who better to poke fun at you, than you?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, wrong thread - racist/sexist/whatever jokes told "ironically"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's less about any supposed gayness than it is about fetishising consumer culture. I'm all about that. Girlfriend.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Sure I know the part I'm playing, but I do it with a bit of a wink.

just is not good enough. Tracer is OTM - just about every gay guy i know falls into the category Tracer suggests and to add inslut to injury they talk/ dress/think the same. listen to the same Music etc. it's depressing. Maybe i just dont know the right ones but i have LOOKED HARD for a long time.

jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, what do you mean "we?"

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, i know you're not gay, hstencil, i mean just look at your shoes!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

bbbut I'm wearing flip flops!

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

just about every gay guy i know falls into the category Tracer suggests and to add inslut to injury they talk/ dress/think the same. listen to the same

I respect your opinion (and your Freudian slip), but how can you assume every gay guy acts the same---unless you surveyed the entire nation?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, you should read this article

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

btw I think the show would be better if one of the guys was a bear.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

God, I really can't stand Carson though. I think it's my irrational hate for blondes who look like baby birds (see Kate Hudson and Carolyn Besette Kennedy).

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i agree with tracer, down to the part about not having seen it.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder which stereotype I am.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Nicole - i am gay -- thats the depressing thing about it! and not EVERY gay guy - just every one i know (bar 2) i exaggerated for effect y'know. but seriously gay guys on the whole dress so badly ...and i suppose i'd rather have the guys that dress badly cos they just dont give a shit rather than the ones who pluck, shave chests, dye hair fake tan etc. and end up looking much more idiotic than the sruffy stright guys they are tring to make over.

jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Your statement presupposes there are only two options to pick from (dont give a shit/shaved plucked). But I hear your point.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

bits of this keep getting shown on english breakfast tv, namely RISE. looks horrible.

odd how nobody on english tv has picked up on the fact that we had a version of this that started a week or two before the american version started called 'Brian's Boyfriends', especially odd as one of the people who hasn't noticed is also a fellow big brither winner. english version is very cheap and goes out after in wee small hours.

andy

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

apparently my college friend Josh Diaz will be on tonight's episode.

Wait a minute...is this the same supercutie who went to the Kentucky Derby with y'all?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

nope. But he's cute too (and hung, I hear).

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

that last post is the reason the letters 't', 'm', and 'i' were invented.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah right, that post went over the line of l'il ILX's innocence. Sorry.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

you have defouled me, stencey-poo!

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

that last post is the reason the letters 't', 'm', and 'i' were invented.

Teeming Massive Inch?

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh goodness gracious me, I'm ever so sorry!

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Turgid Member Intrusion

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Stence, you have just hijacked poor Teeny's thread;>

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

jeezus christ I'm starting to feel like Ryan Hoffmann!

It's Millar's thread, btw.

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Thrusting Manmeat Indiscriminately

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Blaming hstencil is, like, sooooo three months ago.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Thrusting Manmeat Indiscriminately

"Master Perry's Guide to Female Happiness, Part Infinity."

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

All Millar threads are up for grabs! I think teeny is making a case for squatter's rights. *ahem*

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Tickle My Iris.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

just is not good enough. Tracer is OTM - just about every gay guy i know falls into the category Tracer suggests and to add inslut to injury they talk/ dress/think the same. listen to the same Music etc. it's depressing. Maybe i just dont know the right ones but i have LOOKED HARD for a long time.

Hello.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

This show is unbearable, I couldn't make it through the one episode I saw. Those horrible MOR queens and their predictable blab. "Don't you just love the gays? Aren't they just the cutest? Daddy, I waaaaannnt one!" Tracer's so right.

I wish they'd all go away, especially that Carson guy. I mean, they're everywhere now. No, wait, the food guy's OK.

Trish! The Bear! (Arthur), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't get to see the episode with my friend tonight because my cable is inexplicably out.

hstencil, Wednesday, 3 September 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i did like how they ripped on the guy & his date.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The Greek guy's apartment was a disaster.

Bad Caribbean bordello chic. Bleh.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

so thanks to tokyo rosemary, I saw the episode. It was good. It was the first time I've ever seen this friend of mine wear anything with color. Plus, a few other friends were on the episode too.

hstencil, Thursday, 4 September 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The funny thing about Butch is they just made him look like every other style-conscious NYC guy, whereas pre-makeover he looked different and interesting.

So they're doing Oprah-style makeovers then? Do they also now look ten years older than they looked before the makeovers?

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 5 September 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm just up to the prom episode.

Greatly enjoyed the Fab Five constantly dunking on the Ranger guy, who was basically a walking stereotype of toxic gender norms. cackled when Antoni dramatically threw his head back and went "oh, masculinity!" when the dude was like "I just eat steak most days, I only eat chicken when no one's looking" lmao

was very moved by Angel and her relationship with her dad

Roz, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:32 (four years ago)

oh the prom episode was so lovely, those kids & teachers were so awesome

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:47 (four years ago)

two years pass...

Look, I know this show has its problems, and the magic might have worn off or whatever, but in the wedding episode this season, there is one scene where Karamo is wearing the greatest trousers I have ever seen in my human life.

trishyb, Monday, 16 December 2024 16:46 (one year ago)

Oooh I don't follow their marketing & promo stuff very well but tx for letting us know there are new eps!

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 16 December 2024 17:29 (one year ago)

Wtf was going on w the ep about the couple who wanted a wedding?? They were so boring and all they wanted/got was a televised wedding planned by the fab 5? I’ll admit the baby was cute but who cares???

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 December 2024 01:13 (one year ago)

I liked the one about Clyde the dealer tho

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 December 2024 01:13 (one year ago)

“Snack Attack”

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 December 2024 01:13 (one year ago)

Wtf was going on w the ep about the couple who wanted a wedding??

I looked up the new guy and it seems he also presents a show that is basically this, so maybe some crossover synergy happening?

trishyb, Friday, 27 December 2024 15:12 (one year ago)

I think I'm in love with the new decor guy. When the amazing, beautiful woman in Ep 2 collapsed in her front door and he said, "I don't think I'm going to survive this show" and started crying, it made me think he's going to be a good addition.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 1 January 2025 21:52 (one year ago)

I didn't know anything about him, but my sister-in-law has been a big fan for a few years now. Jeremiah and his husband (who used to be the go-to interior designer/home makeover person on Oprah's show) have a successful interior design show already, so it's not like he's going to let himself get overwhelmed by, ahem, pushier personalities.

trishyb, Friday, 3 January 2025 08:26 (one year ago)

They also have a line of pet goods that I noticed while waiting in line at Petsmart.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 3 January 2025 15:01 (one year ago)

Oooh yeah. It seemed like an obviously commercially motivated choice in so many ways, like you both pointed out. The origins of the new Fab Five were kind of...things were less high-stakes when that original crew came together, but now it's obviously all planned and manipulated at a high level. He could have been some smarmy industry plant type, you know what I mean? As a viewer, I've had a positive reaction to his interpersonal skills & emotional availability, at least as shown so far.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 3 January 2025 18:16 (one year ago)

one year passes...

It's mad that things have become so toxic within the cast, and the culture has shifted so much, that I only came across the new season of this listed in the New on Netflix ribbon, and nowhere else on the Netflix landing page. Like, I have watched every season of this show, and so have other users on my subscription. I even watched one whole episode of whatever that cooking competition was that Anthony did. And now I see that Karamo isn't even doing the press tour with the others, and didn't tell them beforehand.

trishyb, Thursday, 22 January 2026 16:07 (five months ago)

Wait are things toxic within the cast? I had no idea.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 22 January 2026 17:52 (five months ago)

One of the first things that I heard about with this reboot that they staged a police stop while Karamo was driving so I just assumed they were toxic all along and sometimes better about hiding it

our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Thursday, 22 January 2026 18:33 (five months ago)

That's true I was horrified by that at the time and I think commented on it somewhere but I was interpreting trishyb's comment as being about a more recent development.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 22 January 2026 20:19 (five months ago)

per Variety:

Karamo Brown, the resident culture expert on “Queer Eye,” pulled out of multiple cast interviews due to fears of bullying after feeling that he’s been “mentally and emotionally abused for years.”

In a statement read live on “CBS Mornings” to the “Queer Eye” cast, Brown said: "Thank you to everyone around the world for welcoming me into their homes for 10 seasons. Season 10 is amazing and I know you will fall in love with the deserving people we helped. Though the show is ending, I hope everyone remembers the main theme I have tried to teach them over the past decade, which is to focus on and to protect their mental health/peace from people or a world who seek to destroy it; which is why I can’t be there today. Thank you to the crew for being the best in business and the executives for believing in me. 10 seasons, I’m truly humbled.”

https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/karamo-brown-queer-eye-cbs-interview-bullying-mental-health-1236635769/

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 January 2026 22:43 (five months ago)

but I was interpreting trishyb's comment as being about a more recent development.

I was worried you were being sarcastic! And I had forgotten about that traffic stop incident you mentioned. Jesus, yeah, now you say it...

Anyway, Rolling Stone did a big expose a couple of years ago when Bobby left the show, mainly about how terrible things had been between him and Jonathan, and how awful Jonathan was to work with. Not just for the other four guys, but for the crew, and for the "heroes" or whatever they call them.

trishyb, Friday, 23 January 2026 08:44 (four months ago)

Not sarcastic!! I just don’t consume very much entertainment media. Obv something was off when Bobby left but I already kind of had gotten a bad impression of him at some points and I thought it was widely known how much Karamo’s role was actually the heart of the show. If anything I thought Antoni had become kind of a punchline for not really teaching cooking skills (though I agree that life balance and a good relationship to food is valuable!!).

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 23 January 2026 18:02 (four months ago)

I am still going to watch this season because the people on it seem interesting, and the first episode was the first time I've ever heard Jonathan try to express anything serious about their role. They said that a hairdresser gives people who've thought of themselves as one thing for a long time the chance to see themselves differently, and that is fair enough.

As usual, Karamo gets to the heart of the problem in the family and gets it sorted. I hope he does something good after this. I really like him.

trishyb, Friday, 23 January 2026 19:06 (four months ago)


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