Why I hate the Daily Mail, as distilled into one edition

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something tells me the debate is more nuanced than t/s big bang vs creationism

N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Not in the Daily Mail it isn't.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair, the Mail is probably TS: Big Bang vs Lizard-God-Men from Orion who Built the Pyramids

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

They think it's an old man with a beard who looks spookily like David Jason.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Front page: social workers say Kate Moss is not fit to be a parent

p4: We should boycott shops that sell "inappropriate" clothes for children.

I don't find either of those particularly objectionable, although the rest of the list is pretty shitty. DOES THIS MAKE ME A BAD LIBERAL.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Bugger.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd like to know what Social Workers they've quoted, too, since the ones I've known seem to think kids are okay to live with parents a thousand times more feckless and incapable than Kate Moss.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

It's worth noting here that they directly blame a Next t-shirt for five-year-olds with "So many boys, so little time" on the front for the rise in Britain's teenage pregnancy rate, then steers the whole piece into a rant about pop stars who have sex with each other and magazines that tell girls not to have sex but to take precautions if they do.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Front page: ALL DAILY MAIL READERS/WRITERS ARE NOT FIT TO BE PARENTS

p4: IT'S CALLED CAPITALISM YOU WANTED THATCHER YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW GET OVER IT

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I blame the abolition of child labour.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

'DOES THIS MAKE ME A BAD LIBERAL.'

Why aspire to 19th smiling faced, so-gooding, robber barondon?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

p10-11: "The great fashion week cocaine binge": Win 2 Tickets For You and a Partner.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

has moss really been dropped by chanel, per the sun?

N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

p6: Melanie Phillips says our once great education system lies in ruins, and it's all "the left's" fault.

This is idiocy, of course, but it comes from an expected source. A rather less expected source is Stephen Malkmus, who, in the current edition of Index magazine, says it's nice to be in Portland rather than New York, then adds "But the west coast has a downside too, like the number of ridiculous leftists..." He then recounts an anecdote of wanting to shove one of said leftists up against a wall. So that's what "Pig Lib" meant!

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep, looks that way. But not Rimmel.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Was on C4 news last night (why, oh why?)

xxpost

Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link

IT'S CALLED CAPITALISM YOU WANTED THATCHER YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW GET OVER IT

And so say, errrrrrrrrrr, some of us!

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I wondered why all of my Pavement records went so speedily to MVE a while back! (Momus xpost)

I blame the abolition of Old Labour.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

Malkmus made snidey comments about "leftists" on "Embassy Row" years back. He's probably worried they'd make him get his haircut and stop mumbling.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

On page seven there's a bit about how Labour has failed our schools, which cites as evidence a new report saying too few state school pupils are getting into top universities. Last week they ran a piece complaining about socialist do-gooders forcing clever private school pupils out of top universities by giving their places to the great unwashed.

Damned if you do, etc etc.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Malkmus is the preppiest musician I have ever met.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought he gave up trying to be Mark E. Smith years ago? Apparently not. (xpost)

Last week they ran a piece complaining about socialist do-gooders forcing clever private school pupils out of top universities by giving their places to the great unwashed.

And the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post But don't ridiculous leftists exist? I know some.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post But don't ridiculous leftists exist? I know some.

THERE MIGHT BE ONE IN OUR MIDST, DR C.

HI MOMUS.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Mail headline in about a month's time: "SEND FERAL YOUTH BACK UP THE CHIMNEYS!" Simon Heffer-Heffer writes.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:57 (eighteen years ago) link

On page seven there's a bit about how Labour has failed our schools, which cites as evidence a new report saying too few state school pupils are getting into top universities. Last week they ran a piece complaining about socialist do-gooders forcing clever private school pupils out of top universities by giving their places to the great unwashed.
Damned if you do, etc etc.

er, except the two things don't contradict each other? obviously they need to end private education and level the field, unless we're to 'enjoy' the same kind of horrible 'affirmative action' debate (on class as much as race lines) here as they had in the states (obv this probably isn't the mail's view...)

N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link

The first person I remember using the phrase "feral youth" was Jonathan Miller - go figure, as the Merkins have it

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:01 (eighteen years ago) link

p49: "Ruthless, career-minded women. An underclass of weak, emasculated men." - Readers' sexual fantasies revealed.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Amanda Platell writes (and hopefully does quite a lot of other things...).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

p49: "Ruthless, career-minded woman. An underclass of weak, emasculated men." - Shurely Margaret Thatcher's entire career as PM in a nutshell ("nutcase more like")

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I never quite understood what Alan Clark saw in her.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

His nanny, surely?

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Well yes I understand the maternal thing (boy do I understand it), but...Thatcher sexy? Surely the oxymoron to end all political oxymorons?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, I was just remembering the kind of slavering and slobbering all those perverse old Tories used to do over her. Repulsive. You could almost see the drool escaping out of the corners of their mouths.

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Where's Wilhelm Reich when you need him? Writing for the Daily Sport probably.

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think Reich could explain this one. De Sade, possibly.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link

De Sade could describe it but I don't think he couild explain it

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Kate, re big bang, both, but largely the former than the latter, admittedly. Things have started getting v.interesting in cosmology over the last couple of years. Dark energy, the return of the cosmological constant, stuff like that. Big bang still orthodoxy, but by no means universally accepted.

Thatcher = ewwww obv, but A.Hollinghurst's stuff about her in The Line Of Beauty does a good job of making you see her through the eyes of all those slavering Tory MPs.

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link

On the cover of the Sunday Times Magazine a couple of years ago there was Edwina Currie, perched on a motorbike dressed head to toe in leather.

I didn't think it was possible for any woman dressed head to toe in leather to appear utterly unsexy, but Ms Currie proved me wrong. Put me right off my breakfast, I can tell you.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I bet it put Norma Major off her breakfast too.

I'm amazed the council tax story isn't front page.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I bet it put Norma Major off her breakfast too.

But I'll bet John had something extra white and creamy on his Weetabix that morning..... urgggggggghhh, did I just say that??!??!

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Gawd, Norma Major, there's another ravishing beauty. Didn't Thatcher's successor as PM have such delectable taste in ladies?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Take one look at the man, and ask yourself if you think he could've done any better.

I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

People, this I keep reiterating: there is a direct correlation between 'newspapers currently sticking the boot into Kate Moss' and 'newspapers which have had to apologise/pay damages to Kate Moss for calling her a druggie in the past'. They must have had to pay up a LOT of money.

I have been made to feel VERY uncool by certain fashion-industry colleagues for my refusal to snort this shit; when I told my former boss I wasn't keen on putting stuff up my nose generally she said 'just rub it on your gums instead' as if it was not the drug itself I was objecting to.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link

People, this I keep reiterating: there is a direct correlation between 'newspapers currently sticking the boot into Kate Moss' and 'newspapers which have had to apologise/pay damages to Kate Moss for calling her a druggie in the past'. They must have had to pay up a LOT of money.

This is why I'm just so pleased by the whole thing. (I kept trying to tell AMP and Anna this last night when they were all "why are they making such a big deal out of it?")

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost x 2)

It's the Philip Larkin syndrome again - you think, blimey, he looked like that and yet he had three women on the go!

Then you look at the women and realise they all looked like him.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

What, they all looked like Eric Morecambe?

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

many believe the big bang theory is wrong

many Daily Mail readers. not actual scientists or anything.

So why did Radio 5 wake me up with the words "...which may change the way we look at the creation of the universe via the Big Bang" yesterday morning? (I can't answer this question as I immediately clicked the snooze button, but I'd be surprised if they're giving too much airspace to creationism).

RickyT, if you have any links to recent cosmological updates, do post them!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd say Larkin looked more like Phil Silvers than Morecambe.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:55 (eighteen years ago) link

didn't realise Dacre had gone tbh but fuck the Mail

the Warnock of Clodhop Mountain (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 08:33 (five years ago) link

it's one of David Cameron and Boris Johnson's Eton contemporaries Geordie Greig at the helm now, so you can be sure that a pivot towards socialism will now happen

Neil S, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link

as if some posh cunt is called Geordie!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

affectionate public school nickname because he visited somewhere north of Sandringham once

the Warnock of Clodhop Mountain (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 09:03 (five years ago) link

While Dacre was known for retreating to his Scottish Highlands estate, former Tatler editor Greig prepared for the job by taking a holiday in Zimbabwe, which is being written up for the society magazine by his son Jasper – recently appointed as Tatler’s London editor.
The Old Etonian, who has taken fellow Old Etonian Tobyn Andreae with him to be deputy editor, is happy to be photographed at celebrity parties and mixes in the same circles as the Rothermeres...

Seriously, it's like the last hundred years never happened.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 09:11 (five years ago) link

the last hundred years didn't happen for the rich iirc

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 09:14 (five years ago) link

one year passes...
two months pass...

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/320/cpsprodpb/17504/production/_111229459_dm-frontpage-12march2020.jpg

"Cheltenham and Diabetes Pullouts" is all-time

fetter, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Notice anything about the children the Daily Mail "edited out", in its attack on Educators today? pic.twitter.com/nnaWVbDFNL

— Daniel Kebede (@DanielKebedeNEU) May 15, 2020

two black schoolchildren given the Yezhov cut for the cover.

calzino, Friday, 15 May 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I suspect that only one of these photos will be in tomorrow’s Daily Mail. pic.twitter.com/nqrjwOA5Z1

— Francis Wheen (@FrancisWheen) July 2, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 2 July 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqZrViYW8AAghJg?format=jpg&name=medium

twin peaks. Oh yes I almost forgot the current Mail editor is a friend of the soon to be convicted (or murdered lol) paedo on the cover

calzino, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsIHG1jXcAAFJfM?format=jpg&name=large

also see: Why I hate this country distilled into one edition.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

how to avoid giving the DM ad clicks for when you need a rage read session

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/channel-1/index.html

mark e, Saturday, 11 September 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Hope the cunts go bankrupt

Prince Harry, Sir Elton John, David Furnish, Elizabeth Hurley, Sadie Frost and Baroness Doreen Lawrence have launched a legal action against Associated Newspapers, publishers of The Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday and the Mail Online.

— Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) October 6, 2022



I mean so far so British tabloid but genuinely poisonous and awful rag, does it ever produce anything newsworthy?

Hamlins LLP said the "unlawful acts alleged to have taken place include:
1) The hiring of private investigators to secretly place listening devices inside people’s cars and homes

— Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) October 6, 2022



2) The commissioning of individuals to surreptitiously listen into and record people’s live, private telephone calls whilst they were taking place
3) The payment of police officials, with corrupt links to private investigators, for inside, sensitive information

— Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) October 6, 2022



They were also exposed during Depp v Heard for meeting with Depp, his lawyer (who was booted off the case for leaking evidence) and publishing selectively edited audio to sway public opinion, but nobody cared about that.

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

has Doreen Lawrence ever commented on the Daily Mail's "murderers" front page? Not that it makes a difference either way to these scumbags being scumbags, but I've always thought it very strange how it was the Daily Mail who took the biggest risk around the case.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

The Mail became interested when it transpired that Neville Lawrence had worked for the Dacres as a handyman.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

A reminder that the Daily Mail was about to do a hit job on the Lawrences then Neville who had done plastering work at editor Paul Dacre’s house rang him up & said it was his son and could he help & Dacre was reminded of their humanity https://t.co/iSSrp8agAR

— MARCUS. 🇧🇧🏳️‍🌈 (@marcusjdl) October 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:21 (one year ago) link

I didn't know the Mail was about to go after the Lawrence family (not exactly surprising).

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

I knew about the Dacre connection but imagined they were just ignoring the story, rather than planning a hit-piece

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 7 October 2022 10:38 (one year ago) link


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