Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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"I kept smiling at him, longingly, however...."

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:47 (fourteen years ago)

"...imagining how I could feed my crack habit with the bulging contents of his wallet."

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:48 (fourteen years ago)

I remember getting really cross about that technique when I was at the NME in the mid-80s: several writers would use it to gotcha interviewees after the fact. It's a real dick's trick IMO: pick them up on it t the time, going back to it if you don't want to break the flow -- and if you didn't think of it at the time (=you are as bad as they are), fkn say this. Don't abuse yr power: it guts any politics you profess. (Well, not any politics...)

mark s, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:52 (fourteen years ago)

Slot it on the list next to "Change the question to make the answer look more xxxx in your article"

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 11:01 (fourteen years ago)

I expect quite a lot of these writers were influenced at an impressionable age by the malign nature of eighties NME/Blitz/Face interview techniques. The thing that always bugged me about Morley’s Ask – recently confirmed on re-reading – is that, boiled down, the only question PM ever asked anyone was: “why aren’t you me?”

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 11:05 (fourteen years ago)

I was going through my garage, and actually found my copies of "Ask" (I forgot I had one), and the original press of "Rock and the Pop Narcotic".

So, shall update myself re:it.

(My memory of other interviewers: The Stud Brothers' only question was "Why aren't you Front 242?")

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)

The other 'refresher' was watching some of the extras on the "Stone Roses" 2DVD set, where Ian and john were being 'interviewed'. Of course, surly/shy/reticent was the order of the day, but blimey the questions were all totally hopeless. "What do you feel like, about how long it's taken to be critically acclaimed, do you think?"

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 11:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://legalbizzle.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/comment-is-free-but-woo-is-sacred/

am all for printing both sides, but where do you draw the line? these guys were just talking obvious shit

stet, Friday, 18 November 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

I've spent some time corresponding with 'freemen' (for work). They are kinda endearing but they are talking absolute bollocks of course. There's no way the Guardian should be publishing it really.

Freemen who think they are clever by quoting legal stuff are tedious fuckers. The ones who get really obsessed with language and writing names in capital letters and putting punctuation in odd places are interesting (but generally appear ill).

oppet, Friday, 18 November 2011 23:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'd never heard of them until Ben Goldacre started tweeting about this stuff.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman-on-the-land

kinder, Friday, 18 November 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)

In my experience they are usually mentally ill people, but there are a few who are just stupid/sad/idiotic anarchists.

oppet, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

website front page is currently v much worse than it used to be.

ledge, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:51 (fourteen years ago)

all better now.

ledge, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 12:00 (fourteen years ago)

Via Matos, the film and music section is no more after today: "They're folding it into the rest of the paper, doing more online, that sort of thing."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

It's going into Friday's G2 from next week.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

Think some things will still disappear? There's no Tom Ewing column as of now sadly.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

And as this seems to be my last column for the Guardian (the first paper I read seriously), I say farewell in the hope that you have had some pleasure from it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/jan/05/david-thomson-on-michael-fassbender/print

difficult christening shower (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

COPYING AND PASTING IS NOT PERT HUMOUR

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:41 (fourteen years ago)

DON'T FUCKING DO IT

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

xpost: From what I've heard, almost all of Friday's G2 will be Film & Music, except for Marina Hyde at the front and presumably the telly at the back. Dunno about specific regular features from the old F&M, though.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

It's going to be most of Friday's G2, as Mike says. New commissioning and editing model, in which "pod heads" for film and music - for music, that's Caspar Llewellyn Smith - commission in their subject areas, and then Monday-Friday print editors take their pick of what they want. So G2 editor will compile F&M from stuff commissioned by others.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

"pod heads"!

polyphonic, Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:58 (fourteen years ago)

The question we've all been asking: Why doesn't Ireland do musicals?

We aren't lacking in raw materials, after all. Aren't we the country that brought you Enya, Sinead O'Connor, Westlife and U2?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/theatreblog/2012/jan/11/ireland-turned-off-musicals-bono

questino (seandalai), Thursday, 12 January 2012 01:47 (fourteen years ago)

queequeg7

11 January 2012 6:50PM

Because musicals are generally shite

otm

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 12 January 2012 01:52 (fourteen years ago)

are guardian comments always this stupid and annoying?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/12/voivod-to-the-death-demo-metal

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

Generally only happens when the articles are linked on the front page. You get a lot of people who don't usually comment on the music sections.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

normally the comments are really good

caek, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:49 (fourteen years ago)

Well, you don't get people coming along to say 'WHO? I have never heard of them!" all the time.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:55 (fourteen years ago)

yeah usually they would just blame pandemics on THE JEWS

nakhchivan, Friday, 13 January 2012 12:58 (fourteen years ago)

You're thinking of Oi VeyVod

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Friday, 13 January 2012 12:59 (fourteen years ago)

Oy not Oi obv

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol caek

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

The Guardian's picture editors, at least, are getting better:

http://twitpic.com/87r4fh

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 16 January 2012 08:12 (fourteen years ago)

Wikipedia will be joined in its 24-hour protest by top news sharing site Reddit and the popular Cheezburger websites, which attract 16.5 million visitors a month to look at funny cat videos and photos.

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:09 (fourteen years ago)

so I actually quite like the new G2 film & music format. It's much more tube-friendly. Had a good chortle at Marina. However I did shed a tear due to the lack of my Friday dose of Private Lives & Pamela Stephenson page - I shall miss reading "my son is masturbating to gay porn" and "my teenage son is rank and is going to Cambridge but I want him to leave now" etc. Perhaps it's some ploy to get me buy the monday editions as well.

danzig, Saturday, 21 January 2012 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

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william

28 January 2012 3:44PM

Gingrich can't become president; he's not American.
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The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

i actually think its kind of cool that the graun deletes the more batshit racist/sexist/homophobic shit on their comments page but ymmv

dave cool it (stevie), Sunday, 29 January 2012 09:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/29/ting-tings-nowheresville-interview

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 29 January 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/jan/29/pass-notes-brooklyn-3115

oppet, Monday, 30 January 2012 11:07 (fourteen years ago)

I’ve had a blog for a long time but only started to take it seriously a couple of years ago when I published a series of photos of Londoners wearing hats in their ordinary lives.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/gallery/2012/feb/03/the-rise-of-the-fashion-blogger#/?picture=385467464&index=3

James Mitchell, Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:41 (fourteen years ago)

"some sweaty bopping in a Smiley T-shirt to "Ebeneezer Goode" in the 1990s"

has Barbara Ellen always written in that horrible Littlejohn-esque 'one sentence per paragraph' fashion btw

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:49 (fourteen years ago)

she's always been the Happy Shopper Julie Burchill so yeah

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

one cliche i wish would die - photographers taking photos of photographers, cameras pointed at cameras.

koogs, Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

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The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

^ subeditor

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:19 (fourteen years ago)

Call me a luddite, but just as I like getting my vegetables delivered in a box direct from a farm in Devon, I love knowing that the puppets in War Horse are handmade in a workshop in Cape Town.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/12/revenge-muppets-puppets-kermit-war-horse

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

"luddite" wdn't be my first choice word

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)

yes, i can think of a few others

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:46 (fourteen years ago)

Ugh...

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:19 (fourteen years ago)

Scream, Clueless, films like that were just as sly and arch in their message as new films such as Juno and Superbad, but without the irony.

;/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/feb/11/90s-revival-music-culture

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 13 February 2012 14:25 (fourteen years ago)


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