indian food vs. italian food

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I can imagine Indian food being to 'Merkins what Mexican food is to Britishers.

i live in the suburbs where good restaurants of any sort are at a premium and there are at least two decent indian restaurants (and a couple of take-out places) within driving distance. and no decent mexican joints. this country's just too big, and the immigrant population so diverse depending on which region you're in, to break it down like that.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 7 November 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

more variety in Indian food imho (wider geographic area, wider variety of local ingredients, much bigger range of cultural diversity) so I'm goin with that

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

otoh I've never been to Italy (been to India twice)

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

voted italian just because i've been eating curry for 4 days in a row and so now longing for a lasagne

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

or a fritto misto (rather than onion bhaji)

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

Spaghetti al Nero di Seppia fuck yes

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

these are hands-down my two favorite cuisines (and yes i know neither is a monolith) but i feel a bit biased towards italian because i just made a huge batch of marinara sauce yesterday and it is delicious so that

vitameatawalloginavegamin (donna rouge), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

Is indian pizza indian or italian? This is an important question to resolve, because indian pizza is a thing of beauty.

quincie, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Going to eat my leftovers of that butter/garlic/tomato/pasta combination. Can't wait!

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

Is indian pizza indian or italian? This is an important question to resolve, because indian pizza is a thing of beauty.

so sad when people don't believe me about this

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

I feel Chinese should have been an option in this polldown.

xpost Shakey Mo, it is on your recommendation that I experienced the glory!!!

quincie, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

…and presumably every other world cuisine?

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Chinese is at least as well represented in the US as Indian and Italian; do not know about UK.

quincie, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

i once had doner kebab pizza in the south of france -- it was not very amazing except as a concept

many many chinese takeaways in the uk, maybe even more than indian, i don't know (probably varies regionally) -- i remember the first chinese restaurant opening in shrewsbury in the 60s, the chanticleer, it was fancy! it had a dance band and a dance floor -- and my whole family went as a special very unusual treat

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

this reminds me, I should get around to doing the ILX world cuisine knockout poll

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

fyi according to dayo american chinese is a pale imitation and we basically have no access to the true wonder of chinese food. ;_;

horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

xp!

horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

I'm part Italian, I can eat Italian any time I want. Yes, it's great. It's really filling though and gets tiresome every day. That is true about the variety in Indian food...and the SPICE. I love SPICY FOOD. So, Indian then....

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

rustic italian flatbread vs. garlic naan

moo-town slackers (Pillbox), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

"turkish pizza" is good. U roll it into a tube.

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

Need to try pide at some point.

Is Indian pizza significantly different from Italian?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

the one time i took my mom out for indian food, the only thing she liked was the "pizza bread"

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

xp yeah, pide. its great! and its so cheap and easy it kind of amazes me that it hasnt been exported to other countries as a late-night drunk food the way doner/schawarma has been

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

or maybe im thinking of lahmacun

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.tablehopper.com/newsletter/061205/zantes_large.jpg

for all not in the know... above is a pic of Zante's Indian Pizza in San Francisco. I have seen this ripped off by other local pizzerias, but I have never seen it replicated anywhere else in the US or in India. It differs significantly from Italian pizza - there is no marinara sauce, afaict they kind of use a saag-based sauce. and then there's cheese obviously, but the other toppings are usually tandoori chicken or lamb, cauliflower, onions etc It does not taste remotely Italian.

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

I think spicy food elevates your mood. When I down a huge Italian meal, I fall asleep.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

meat version = Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green Onions, Cilantro, Lamb, Tandoori Chicken & Prawns

xp

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

afghani pizza rules, shaped like a football

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

go long

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

the one time i took my mom out for indian food, the only thing she liked was the "pizza bread"

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-grandmother-tries-indian-food,2472/

enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

real life versus chinese takeaway

Indian or Chinese?

American Chinese food

(there are several more)

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

we need a "european/mediterranean vs asian-including-indian" food poll

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

blood sausage versus the world

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

why has british cuisine sucked for so long, is my question

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

I think I kind of like British food but I might just be perverse.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

i like scones

horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

english breakfast!

horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

i mean englands got nothing on italy or france or india but i think its been underrated for a long time now.

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

I actually kind of enjoy stuff like steak and kidney pie and haggis (the one time I had each of them). Big on ginger marmalade too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

^^xpost that pretty much sums it up. was just reading on some US food blog that everyone was excited fergus henderson was visiting nyc and his food is the most english thing ever

just sayin, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

i mean british people invented "things that are named like desserts but actually made of meat" which is a really impressive innovation

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

it doesn't suck now -- after four of five decades of foodie agitation (and haha indian and chinese takeaways) -- and there've always been good pockets, but it was hit REALLY hard by the industrial revolution basically, and everyone flooding to the cities; and plus the fine eating establishments after the french revolution were basically all run by french ex-pats who'd been chefs for the aristos who had their heads chopped off

during empire, "takeout" meant we sent a gunship out to eg india and took their cuisine (curry, kedgeree and so on)

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

fine eating establishments^^^ie in england (well, london)

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

i suppose my point is that theres nothing inherent in british-and-or-english cuisine that would make it suck, so long as its prepared well. but i believe that it spent a century sucking because of bad chefs/bad reputations/margaret thatcher

max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

I am late to this but I just read this upthread:

I just want to remind everyone that if you agree with Aerosmith on this thread you are agreeing with a guy who thinks now and laters are the pinnacle of human culinary achievement, standing above only bit O honey

I mean, how can Now and Laters be the pinnacle of human culinary achievement if everything but Bit O Honey is better than them?

dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

1. Now and Laters
2. Bit O Honey
3. Saag Paneer
4. Garlic Naan
5. Chick O Stick

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

every ethnic cuisine in the world has copped to the fact that spices and pickling and fermenting are good things and make food flavorful and tasty and great

but british food, british food

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

currently lobbying to have the above ranking replace the US Constitution in toto

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

Bill of Blights

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

read a british cookery book in the 1930s and it's all nervously trying to be "french" -- escoffier's fault mainly! (tho he was good at this style)

the turnabout came after ww2, when english writers like elizabeth david started looking at european peasant cookery as the source of quality, instead of high-falutin fancy cuinse that few could pull off -- rationing during the war and after was the end of the low (and its nadir, probably), and it began a long slow trudge of a climb back to interest in cheap(ish) quality

thatcher is not actually the villain here, for once (she's not the hero either, just irrelevant: brit neo-foodiness coincided with her...)

xp spices and pickling and fermenting <-- dude, chutney! pickled onions, walnuts, everyone in the uk makes/buys a fvckton of this!

mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)


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