Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

why do u think he will leave?

(suarez)

hoilett is out of contract in the summer

Adam seems incapable of functioning in a 4-4-2, Downing's faded, Henderson's best moments have come when he's played CM, Carroll ??? Poor Kuyt and Maxi can't get a look in. Maxi's unhappy and looking to leave in January, so I hear.

CL teams will surely come sniffing for Suarez?

He wasn't an unknown quantity before Liverpool came in for him, though, so no reason why they should be jumping for him now. That's what I'm telling myself. Pool do need to make a step up though before he gets the idea that he's carrying the team.

Some excellent finishing from Bolton today

is Bale actually getting credit for that goal??

it looked like it'd've hit the corner flag

I reckon Liverpool are more likely to try and make a couple more big signings than they are to sell Suarez, which would be like admitting defeat pretty early on. Don't see any reason why they should panicking just yet - there's loads of quality in that squad and Suarez, Kuyt and Bellamy should be good for enough goals even if Carroll never makes it.

I wonder whether Dalglish has just been away from the game for too long, he doesn't seem to have got them to gel at all yet. And he's been making some bizarre decisions - selling Mereiles, signing Bellamy and barely playing him, leaving Kuyt on the sidelines. I still think they'll have a reasonable season but I can see them slipping below Arsenal pretty soon and staying there.

God I don't need to hear Grygera screaming again...

Bellamy was obviously signed as a backup tho

Is he really so past-it? I know he's 32 now but he was pretty lethal before he fell out with Man City.

I don't think he exactly set the Championship alight last year, but you're hardly going to play him ahead of your 35m striker and phalanx of central midfielders anyway are you?

Bellamy is probably there as an impact sub - I'd say he should be starting but I have no idea what his physical condition is. Kuyt should play every game in full - he has the odd shocker but otherwise he can do everything and doesn't let you down. Lucas too, without the shockers. Adam has exceeded my expectations but he's slow and this is why I think he only works in a five. Maxi's just too slow. Selling Meireles was stupid. Downing I thought was great but reading about his lack of end product has got me concerned. Henderson I never notice.

The thing is though, Suarez is far too good for them. You can easily make up a serviceable front six from that lot plus Gerrard and Johnson, but if it's going to compete it's because he's carrying it.

apols if this was already noted in the wasteland of 'load all messages' but there has been some insanely good goalkeeping in the Prem this weekend

al habsi was incredible, wasn't he

Suarez flatters to deceive, i'm starting to think. If Carroll starts firing, and i've faith he will, and they can gel, that's a classic partnership- but i dunno that suarez isn't to wasteful if there's not a scrapper in the box to finish for him. Kuyt if not carroll.

lol at motd2 highlighting modric's display today, his worst performance in a year or more imo.

Walker was bloody good. Getting kinda sick of matt's patient approach paying dividends itt.

Tho, tbf, it was no surprise that a jol team outplays & outshoots you but ends up losing- and satisfied with it.

BAE's looking good isn't he?

ha yeah, that's an input into the 'patient matt' comment, but he's been great all season, i'd say there's only enrique and maybe baines to touch him from what i've seen.

Good Spurs first half

very poor second half or Fulham were somehow very good

they should have had a pen but so should we

late goal flattered Tottenham

I don't dislike Liverpool, I quite like them in various ways, but I do enjoy it when the big-spending scousers draw at home with newly promoted teams.

het someone post this to a relevant thread so i can avoid work pls, can't type it out on a phone tbh. (darraghmac)

Name		Team		Mins	Gls	Ast	Eff.
Edin Dzeko		Man City	583	10	3	44.85
Sergio Aguero		Man City	654	9	3	54.5
Ivan Klasnic		Bolton		516	5	4	57.33
Roysten Drenthe	        Everton 	306	2	3	61.2
Samir Nasri		Man City	431	1	6	61.57
Robin van Persie	Arsenal 	904	11	3	64.57
Mario Balotelli		Man City	332	5	0	66.4
Demba Ba		Newcastle	642	8	1	71.33
Wayne Rooney		Man Utd	        831	9	2	75.55
Adam Johnson		Man City	388	3	2	77.6
James Milner		Man City	558	2	5	79.71
Ashley Young		Man Utd	        641	2	6	80.13
David Silva		Man City	895	4	7	81.36
Rafael Van Der Vaart	Tottenham 	676	6	2	84.5
Frank Lampard		Chelsea 	856	6	4	85.6
Gabriel Agbonlahor	Aston Villa 	942	5	6	85.64
Jermain Defoe		Tottenham 	441	4	1	88.2
Emmanuel Adebayor	Tottenham 	714	3	5	89.25
Gervinho		Arsenal 	639	2	5	91.29
Aaron Lennon		Tottenham 	381	1	3	95.25

good man good man

Anyway, plenty of english talent there going on the evidence, no?

Dzeko is a flat track bully imo

just as well there are an awful lot of flat tracks in the epl then.

btw, had defoe's goal not taken a deflection it would have been a real beaut

xp

well yeah but y'know he'll score a couple against some dross that's already 3 down, he seems dead wasteful when it matters

gtfo flat track dzeko, how many of those goals were against top five teams

Surprising to me that Balotelli's managed 5 goals and no assists, he doesn't strike me as selfish when he's on the pitch, small sample size I guess.

ht trick against spurs, 2 against utd. hasn't played chelsea, newcastle, arsenal yet

actually 4 vs spurs, but that was way back when spurs weren't a top 4 team.

2 vs united after they hit the self destruct button (and both were tap-ins??)

lol at this analysis, goals is goals rooney scores 8 vs bolton every year

I expect Dzeko will be more highly thought of if he can get Bosnia-Herz into the Euros on Friday, glad he and Pjanic both seem to be in good form.

pjanic made a lovely assist for bojan's goal at the weekend

i'd gladly have someone at LFC to score tap ins tbh

gonna have to pay more than 58m the pair for that

apparently so

y'all can have chamakh if you want. supposedly its all he is there for and he was very good at it (for five games at the start of last season.)

"The FA will have to clear it up with him, because there is no proof at all that I have said anything racist," said Suárez. "I didn't say anything like that to him.

"There are things that happen in football, all in the moment, that leaves one feeling bad. Now we have to wait to see this issue decided and then the Manchester player and I will have to clear things up. Depending on who ends up in the wrong, one of us will have to apologise.

"There were two sides of our discussion, one in Spanish and one in English. I didn't insult him, it was just my way of expressing myself. I called him something that his own Manchester United players call him. Furthermore, even they were surprised at his reaction on the pitch."

What do they call him? I must know

Patty

yeah, kinda the crux of it

Hope we all sign this: https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/14605

Deems while I really like both fullbacks we have now I was basically screaming at them to stop bombing forward for the last 10-15mins or so. There's a place for swashbuckling adventure and that's not when you're defending a 2-1 lead against a team that's had you on the rack for the last half hour.

well, looking at parker's discipline i think that width and speed on the counter can still add a lot to our play too. It'll gain us more than it costs as long as we use the ball well, and both fullbacks are good with delivery.

Feel that countering through the centre has been weak the past few games, otoh-qpr aside. Newcastle in particular saw parker and vdv waste a lot of opportunity before we conceded late.

Good to have the capacity to play it either way tho, i spose

Oh yeah totally, but when you're holding onto a lead that slender and seemingly fragile you don't really want them to start exploiting the space behind a fullback.

Seems a weird thing to say now Lennon's playing his way back into form but I wonder how Walker->Pienaar on the right would play out.

lennon on the left, bale out!

Looks like Levy will be joining 'arry in the slammer.

I like Suarez having the balls to at least say he said something cunty, if not racist to Evra. It shows a bit of backbone compared to EBJT's 'who me?'

I like Suarez having the balls to at least say he said something cunty

He hasn't done that, has he? "I didn't insult him, it was just my way of expressing myself. I called him something that his own Manchester United players call him."

Is it possible that Man U's other black players use n-with-an-a and Suarez is pulling that "they call each other n__ so why can't white people do it?" shite?

no, i really can't see that tbh.

Tevez lol

it's just a misunderstanding