2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/22/michael-moore-insurance-_n_88057.html

Michael Moore said Friday. "Can you imagine, every time Sen. Clinton says that, the licking of the lips that goes on with these health insurance executives?"

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/12590/thumbs/s-MICHAEL-MOORE-CLINTON-large.jpg

http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com

http://www.tommoody.us/images/feb08/conspiracydeathmeme.GIF

Ick.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gC88Jz_3cbKywDYzCvon5M2_KZLAD8V25VQ80

mccain plays the good cop

recommending that article shakey linked to a few posts back

Asked whether the use of Obama's middle name—the same as former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein—is proper, McCain said: "No, it is not

I was not aware that Sadaam Hussein's middle name was Hussein.

Deej: Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't get the impression -- from the linked article -- that McCain was just "playing good cop." Bush distanced himself from the Swift Boat ads, but didn't openly disavow them. By contrast, McCain just unequivocally disavowed Cunningham's remarks.

I don't like McCain, but I don't think I can fault him for this one.

I was not aware that Sadaam Hussein's middle name was Hussein.

His full name is Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti, and Hussein is his father's given name, so it's functionally his middle name.

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Choice Clinton quote from that Superdelegate Youtube video:

"So for some reason, people with those kinds of personal experiences which voters don't have; they see us from afar, they come to a speech, they see us on television, and they vote, and that's a part of the process, and an imporant part."

Almost every non-politics-following person I know seems to be under the impression that whoever wins the Democratic nomination will inevitably take the other as his or her vice president. I wonder how people who believe this will respond when this does not happen.

-- Dan I., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:04 (2 hours ago) Link

This seems like great news to me, it suggests that the embarrassing infighting and planned outrages aren't really making an impression on people.

Deej: Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't get the impression -- from the linked article -- that McCain was just "playing good cop." Bush distanced himself from the Swift Boat ads, but didn't openly disavow them. By contrast, McCain just unequivocally disavowed Cunningham's remarks.

I don't like McCain, but I don't think I can fault him for this one.

-- Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:32 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i didnt really mean it as a criticism, just a way of acknowledging that its a performance on everyone's part. def enjoying/preferring the sensible discourse mccain's pushing

That's the first time that I've actually lol at the Kane clip.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4d40a39e-8f57-4054-bd99-94bc9d19be1a

The Audacity of Data by Noam Scheiber
Barack Obama's surprisingly non-ideological policy shop.

Despite Obama's reputation for grandiose rhetoric and utopian hope-mongering, the Obamanauts aren't radicals--far from it. They're pragmatists--people who, when an existing paradigm clashes with reality, opt to tweak that paradigm rather than replace it wholesale.

replace it wholesale

obamanauts are suckers who pay retail for adjustment to their paradigms qed

yeah you're right, pragmatism has no place in government

i didnt really mean it as a criticism, just a way of acknowledging that its a performance on everyone's part. def enjoying/preferring the sensible discourse mccain's pushing

McCain is also trying to veer the conversation of this election away from Obama's character.

yeah good luck with that

everyone knows American polity prefers intense policy debates vs. broad character evaluations when it comes to voting amirite lolz

not that McCain would win any policy debates either, what with his popular "I am FOR this unpopular" war stance

well you can see how well attacks on Obama's character have worked for Hillary's campaign. McCain can't use the same strategy.

this has been making the rounds. o/t but megalolz

http://johnmanloveforcongress.com/

manlove

HIS WIFE'S NAME IS GINA MANLOVE

well you can see how well attacks on Obama's character have worked for Hillary's campaign. McCain can't use the same strategy.

-- Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:41 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Part of the reason Hillary's attacks have backfired is that it's a primary. McCain can be a lot more negative without suffering for it.

I don't know why you all continue talking about the 2008 GE, sincethe results have already been leaked.

http://memlinglinks.googlepages.com/hillary_clinton_net_wealth.jpg

NOW TEXAS DOESN'T COUNT EITHER.

i thought there was a debate tonight?

TONIGHT @ 9. Suggest slogans here, e.g., HRC's Last Stand!

LOL @ the Onion's "War for the White House" graphic.

i guess if cnn ain't hosting it, they don't care to say anything about it

The Emperor of Ice-Cream

Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered fantails once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her horny feet protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

yea it's msnbc, and you can stream it live from their website i think

That Wallace Stevens poem was supposed to be set in Key West, I think. Random trivia, but there it is.

wallace stevens opposes nationalized health care

and voted for Dewey and Eisenhower!

LOL @ MSNBC hyping this debate like an NFL Playoff Game: Tonight's Debate -- Obama v. Clinton -- Message v. Voice -- Which Will Win?

MSNBC was fun to watch in 2007 when everything was building up. Since the voting has begun, though, I feel icky just watching. They've completely lost control of themselves.

MSNBC is still my favorite of the cable news networks, but only because it has Keith Obermann, who I like, because he's bright, articulate and since he doesn't challenge any of my preexisting views.

Even Olbermann is becoming insufferable at times now. Why don't they just give Rachel Maddow her own show...like NOW?!

Yes, I like her too. She's bright, articulate and doesn't challenge any of my preexisting views.

i like them best cause when youve got mathews oberman and russert together in the same room its all kinds of delightful crazy self-regard bonanza

yeah, maddow is great. and olberman, who i have always loved, is really hard to take in big doses.

ho snap!

clinton: nooooo dont u understand healthcare is myyyyy thing

obama: yr a whiner lady

comcast took my msnbc away a couple months back and their website's WATCH DEBATE LIVE NOW STREAMING VIDEO HOO HAH is not working. Please keep my updated with the zings.

Don't worry about MSNBC's website. You can watch the debate on more obscure websites without bandwidth problems. I'm watching it from the website of the Zanesville Times Recorder:

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage