also, apparently the "Freedom Walk"/Pro-War Rally is still on!
why did Americans in the South vote in such a Clown as Bush?
remember everything that me and plenty others here and elsewhere about how people aren't all that rational in their voting patterns, that narratives("bush is a strong silent, man-of-the-people-on-his-ranch") matter far more than actual reality? or, that "facts don't trump frameworks," as George Lakoff once wrote?
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
"There's nothing wrong about America that can't be fixed by what's right about America."
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
"Imagine the Gulf Coast obliterated by the worst weapon imaginable."
No, that would be nuclear weapons, which you... ah, nevermind.
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
I tried to volunteer for the Capital City Area Red Cross for volunteer work in Katrina just now and the site's not even coming up at times. When I finally got to the page for signing up, they had some sort of error and the online form I filled out with my contact info didn't go through. I tried twice more and it still faltered. Fuck. I'll have to try it again later today, if it's working. I can't get through on the phone, either, and I haven't found information as to where the office is.
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of society's derangement. (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
yeah well, again, the ruling conservative ideology doesn't believe in social capital. They don't believe in much of anything with the words "social" or "public" in them. The whole idea of the social contract -- which is arguably one of the two or three most important ideas underpinning democratic self-government -- is in their view part of the "problem." This is already showing up in the right-wing commentary: the problem isn't government's failure to respond, it's peoples' expectation that government will respond. The answer is not more or better government, it's less and worse government, to teach people not to be so "dependent."
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― deej.., Friday, 2 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― maura (maura), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
Stepping aside from Katrina specifically for a moment:
Y'all think *I* do that?
yes. i'm pretty sure if i searched on your posts that were reposts of his posts, i'd have quite a few results. don't take it the wrong way, i know why you're fascinated by him, but at the end of the day it's something that i can't really understand or share. i mean, the guy is clearly a douche, even after reading him for a little bit. can it really be that much of a revelation at this point that he's going to contradict himself, badly?
What about all the feebs who watch him and nod their head approvingly even when he slips up, self-contradicts, begs forgiveness? *They're* the ones I'm worried about, and they're why I want to see what the mouthpieces say.
i honestly don't think they matter. i'm not sure there's that many of them, either.
but that said, i'm just pointing it out to point it out, as hopefully constructive criticism, not cuz i like hate ya or nothing. that's all.
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
No officials on the ground, so it's just young men who fight to get the food.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
What matters, I think, is that regardless of the exact amount more than a few are in more than a few positions of power these days. Tuning into that wavelength is an eerie fascination, I admit. But we could debate this into the ground.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
You guys, something is happening.
Ted Koppel, Joe Scarborough, NRO, Cafferty, Anderson Coopers, Robert Siegel on NPR grilling Chertof, fucking PAULA ZAHN getting pissed off, etc. Something is happening here. Please Christ let the deaths of thousands of Americans have at least the effect of shaking up the complacency of everyone else.
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
NOTE: One quote caught my ear but I didn't quite focus on it. I've played it again and Brown is laying the groundwork for putting the blame on LA's governor. (It must be a Fox News talking point; my dad made the same argument earlier.)
Brown of FEMA: We work closely with the state government. The federal government didn not just come in here and tell the state governor how or what to do. We came in here and said, 'What do you want us to do? We will help you.' We are now taking it upon ourselves to do what we think needs to be done. And we will continue to do that.
Translation: LA's Democratic governnor screwed things up royally and now we're cleaning up her mess and taking charge.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."
Somehow I don't think that'll take root, except with Republican cheerleaders.
still, it's always good to identify and point out the Talking Point when it begins.
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)
Last night on PRI's The World radio show, they asked a BBC reporter how we was reporting the story to the UK and other countries that was different from how it was being reported in the US. He said the most notable difference was having to explain how it was that the wealthiest country in the world wasn't able to deal with a disaster like this.
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)
"We got a lot of rebuilding to do.... the good news is and it's hard for some to see it now but out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic gulf coast... out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- the guy lost his entire house -- there's going to be fantastic house. I look forward to sitting on the porch. Out of New Orleans is going to come that great city again."
Glad Trent is going to be taken care of.
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
Take the ball, run with it!
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
Trent Lott will have a fantastic house, indeed.
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)
you guys, something is happening.
xpost: Is he shaking the negro's hands and smiling? or he looking "somber"?
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
Now if you don't mind I have to go meet Condi for martinis and a trip to Kate Spade.
xpost Bush is going to be remembered exactly like I just said. WHAT THE FUCK WAS ANYONE THINKING, WAS IT A PRACTICAL JOKE?
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
"As a result of Katrina, Saudi Arabia has finally admitted that it cannot increase (oil) production. Many of us knew they’ve been lying for at least two years. The Energy Information Administration has just admitted that global demand has been outstripping supply for several months before Katrina. Nice time to start telling the truth. Nature is finally calling everybody’s bluff.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)
OTM. Somewhere in the afterlife, Harding is dancing a jig with a big cake-eating grin on his face while singing "Finally" by CeCe Peniston.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
The source for this is my mom but she doesn't DO anything besides watch news all day so I believe her, Bush is trying to be all nice to some young girls in Biloxi, asked why don't they go to the Salvation Army Shelter, it's right down the street. To which some dude stepped in and was like, "It ain't THERE. It's GONE."
She reports Bush as looking "annoyed".
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
Don't worry. That won't happen until late summer in the first year of Bush's third term.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
*applause*
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
HE DOES! It's like he's not even trying!
"I know, I know..."
--G. W. Bush, President, in response to a distrought creole woman.
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)