Match of the Day vs The Premiership

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That's a shame, I was convinced he'd be huge on Jandek

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, yes. At least back to the grandparents. There are a few who have strayed over to the Reds - Aunt Monica, my cousin Pete, perhaps a few minor relatives-by-marriage.

JtN: I see your Matt Smith and I raise you Gabriel Clarke.

I hope HIGNFY have the good sense to employ Elton Welsby as a guest host next series.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh blimey, league grounds? I've only been to Plough Lane, Griffin Park, Loftus Road, Stamford Bridge & Selhurst Park. That's parochial and crap.

― Ol' prune face (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's see: I've been to St James's Park (Exeter), the Valley, Victoria Ground, Burnden Park, Deepdale, Highbury, Selhurst Park, Goodison, Prenton Park, Wembley...and perhaps a couple I've forgotten.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

What about grounds that don't exist anymore? I've been to the Baseball Ground. To see a team that don't exist anymore - Tulsa Roughnecks.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

hopkins is beating me by about ten grounds but I don't think I'll catch up :o(

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Burnden Park and Wembley (still, just about) fall into that category. I've probably been wherever New Brighton used to play their league matches without knowing it.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

grounds no longer used = Roker, Ayresome park, Shea (or was it shay?), wembley, I never went to Burnden though from what I remember.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

League grounds I've been to:

Portman Road (of course), Withdean 'Stadium', Molineux, Loftus Road, White Hart Lane, Highbury, Selhurst Park, Upton Park and Chelsea's shithole (worst ground ever! - for away fans at least)

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i sat on a wooden bench when i went to Stamford - ten years ago

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the last ever match at the old Wembley, on TV, in a pub, with Steady Mike, at London Bridge I think, on a miserable sort of rainy day, in September 2000. The least miserable thing about it, of course, was being with Steady Mike.

Welsby: oh, yes.

JtN: thanks: must read that. Was Morley the interviewer?

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Morley was on some Radio 1 thing last night. Didn't bother watching.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

'Watching'.

Was it about Matt Smith?

― the bluefox, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the zooming in on the grounds annoys me because when it gets close it becomes obvious that it's a con done using a 2d image

my main problem is that the sunday repeat is on too early

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Grounds I've been to (not many): Bristol Rovers, Torquay, Swindon, Millwall, Brentford, Orient, Wembley. I think that's all.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

A television documentary about Radio 1, sorry.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

English League grounds I have been to: none

Scottish ones: Celtic Park, Ibrox, Hampden, Pittodrie, Tannadice, Dens Park, Easter Road, Tynecastle, McDiarmid Park, Muirton Park (former St Johnstone ground), Broadwood, East End Park, Fir Park, Love Street, Firhill, Station Park (Forfar), New Kilbowie, Victoria Park (Ross County), Borough Briggs (Elgin City) and various Highland League (i.e. non-league so don't count) grounds.

Only other stadium I have watched a match in: Olympic Stadium, Seville.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

This subjects worthy of a thread Which football grounds have you been to?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Try again Which football grounds have you been to?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

koogs, i thought you didn't like football?

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched some of Saturday's MOTD last night. I found Spurs v Arsenal confusing - too many goals, court composer! The bespectacled fella, who I've never seen before, seemed quite good, possibly better than Gary L. He reminded me of Graham Coxon. It must be very upsetting if you're a goalkeeper and Schmichael criticises you like that. On the other hand, it could be quite useful, taken in the right spirit.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

mr hivemind. i'd rather actively ignore it than just be asleep when it's on 8)

it's just good to be able to keep up with these conversations and the ones in the office. and occasionally something interesting will happen (the handball that resulted in everton's penalty this weekend for instance)

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Top comedy ahead of tonight's MOTD Live:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1352950,00.html

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"I know who are the racists. I remember the colonies. I have a lot of black friends and I have fed black people at my table, in my house. I bought TWO copies of 'Hey Ya'!"

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night's debacle was clearly so depressing no one could rouse themselves (or even Rous themselves) to re-energise this thread.

I was torn between wanting to see England's ineptitude get buried under an avalanche of second-half Spanish goals or see Ashley Cole or SWP dance through the home defence and nab an equaliser to silence the racist clowns. Of course, neither of these things was ever likely to happen.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

nope, I got too depressed about it all and switched off at about 65 minutes.

yr man Rooney has a lot of growing up to do (well, he is only 19 I suppose but still....)

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My man Rooney? I understand he wears a shirt of another colour thesedays. I think I was a far less mature 19-y-o.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the royal "yr" not the Steady in particular.

he just remonds me of Kevin the teenager so much sometimes. Owen for instance (great tackle in manyoo match apart) was far more calm and professional at that age I think.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

a large cup of petulance all round.

the spanish fans should be rounded up, put in a field, and educated...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

not fair to generalise them tho eh? also there was something a little suspicious about the racist chanting what with Becks saying he hadn't heard it before and there not being much talk of it in the past i.e. why does this only seem to happen with England??

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

My reply to this just disappeared. It was quite long.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

G and I have been talking about this and generally haven't heard much if any of that sort of abuse while watching Spanish footie (and we watch a fair bit).

I'd like to hear Pj's long answer, I hope it's not lost forever.

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I can only think of one instance - Van Gaal's Ajax got monkey chanted at Zaragoza. Van Gaal made an official complaint, don't know what happened.

Monkey chanting is not standard Spanish practice, defending football people whatever they do (ie Aragones making racist comments) is, especially if the critics are foreign, and extra-especially if the foreigners in question still haven't given Gibraltar back.

I spent years being driven mental by causal racism in Spain, then I just stopped bothering, it was too exhausting. There are people working to get rid of racism, but it's a big job. The standard answer used to be (get this) 'there's no racism here because there are no races'. That is changing now, as Spain experiences its first real wave of immigration of modern times. I think it will be a bumpy ride, but I imagine Britain was just as bad in 1964 or whenever.

These people bring out an annual report which makes for depressing reading. Incidentally, racism is rife across the political spectrum, so-called leftwingers are just as bad. Well, the pro-ETA ones anyway. It is mostly directed against gypsies.

This is the Bizkaia version, I don't know why:

http://www.sosracismo.org

I don't think England's cause was helped by trying to take the moral high ground by wearing those t-shirts and so on. I know the intention was good, but it seemed to backfire, both on the field (the Spanish were really fired up) and off (I'm sure the chanting wouldn't have happened without this).

Not that I'm defending the morons.

Now I come to think of it, one of the reasons I stopped going to Real Sociedad was because I had to hear racist comments all the time. But the same applies to Tamworth (the match sponsor 'VIP' group from a company called Autosmart) and Burton, so....

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

'Rous'!

― the bellefox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Le Saux, Curbishley, Chiles: You are all BOR-ING!

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 22 November 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The worse combination so far, I think. Though we did learn that Trevor Brooking used to drink so much Coke it gave him the occasional upset tummy. I think football pundit anecdotes need to be a bit spicier than that - if Greavsie could coax a chuckle from St John with the same story then it reaches some minimum requirement. ISJ would've been stony-faced last night and not just at the Boro result.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

worst

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

They would have said, 'worse'.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Adrian Chiles quite a lot. I think he's good on MOTD.

― Ol' prune face (Mark C), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

In other news: England beat Spain at golf, Spain won Junior Eurovision Song Contest and more people watched it than watched Barca-Madrid. So national pride restored all round.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

junior eurovision was really rather good

― Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 22 November 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Silly me didn't know it was on.

People think Matt DC is American because he is always talking about his Spurs.

That was a funny goal last night. The Nun was particularly beatific after the match. I may start referring to Villa as 'we' for the duration of this good spell.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I told the Pinefox over pie on Sunday that there was no way Spurs would lose yet another consecutive game. I feel bad - I've let him down, I've let meself down and, most of all, I've let the pie down.

Meanwhile, in Smug Before The Fall news, I would like to point out that the last time Everton started a season 9-2-3 we won the title by 13 points with five games to spare. So this season is already shaping up to be a disappointment.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

David Moyes is the new, er, Mike Walker

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried to listen to this match on the radio but Graham Taylor was whining on, and I couldn't take his bottomless gormlessness for more than ten seconds.

'Bottomless Gormless' - unreleased Kraftwerk classic.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...

I watched Hitchcock's VERTIGO last night and early on in the film James Stewart appears to be doing a very plausible ALAN HANSEN impersonation. Could it be that ALAN HANSEN's entire screen persona is based on James Stewart's combination of bewilderment and indignation?

PS: The film was a game of two halves.

― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

Is the place where we roffle at Tony Blair on Football Focus?

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

SHIT! I missed it! Highlights plz.

― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

He hearts Steed Malbranque

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

He was fucking terrifed when they were playing the recording of him talking about Milburn. Good to see him engage with the terracing issue. It's like he used to think they should be brought back a few years ago. Ho hum.

― Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

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