Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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^ Chicharito is great to watch, makes far more intelligent runs than just those where he actually receives the ball.

Leon Britton rather boring I think, that's his role. Parker also excellent in his role but dull.

Seamus Coleman was exciting Saturday. Also Drenthe, Hoolahan, Dempsey.

boxall, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:43 (fourteen years ago)

Drenthe is looking the player he should have been when Real bought him: half decent.

I always forget Lil Pea exists. Wonder why.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

that's how he gets you

Number None, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

Silva's been a class apart all season - it would be unfair on the others to include him.

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

crouch, never been great.

Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

That clip from Goodison late last season where Silva killed a garryowen stone-dead and the whole crowd went 'ooh!' - I kept that saved on my BT Vision box for months.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

Silva may be hands down the best player but this isn't about class or talent

a hoy hoy, Monday, 31 October 2011 21:56 (fourteen years ago)

nothing boring about parker tackling three players in a row and winning cf yesterday

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Monday, 31 October 2011 21:56 (fourteen years ago)

Just seen last night's result.

What kind of world do we live in where Newcastle can be third in the league? Society is in the gutter etc

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 11:54 (fourteen years ago)

still hoping that it's a kind fixture and injury list and nothing more, otherwise i really do fear for wenger and kenny

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:03 (fourteen years ago)

Nice to see that the 2hr re-run of Monday Night Football Sky showed this morning was 1 1/2 hrs of GNev talking tactics, 15mins of the game, 15mins of player/manager interviews. GNev was great, Stoke are unwatchable.

pandemic, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:03 (fourteen years ago)

What kind of world do we live in where Newcastle can be third in the league? Society is in the gutter etc

― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 11:54 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It is p amazing how well the likes of Tiote, Obertan, Cabaye and Ba have come together, not to mention Ben Arfa has yet to become a first team player yet.

More importantly though, Ashley is nowhere in the papers and Barton, Nolan and Carroll have fucked off, meaning the atmosphere at the club must be so un-newcastle like.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

Obertan is still pretty shit, ditto Leon Best who is becoming this year's classic 15-goals-off-the-arse striker.

Cabaye and Ba are very good though. Think they're running on momentum a bit and they haven't had to play anyone particularly difficult yet (other than Spurs who should have beaten them, and Arsenal, who we've established were shit).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

still hoping that it's a kind fixture and injury list and nothing more, otherwise i really do fear for wenger and kenny

Number of big* six (Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs) faced in league so far: 2 - draws with Spurs and Arsenal, both at home.

3 of their next 4 fixtures are away at both Manchester clubs then Chelsea at home. Might be a more realistic looking table after that.

*when if ever etc

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

Police are making inquiries into racist abuse directed at the Newcastle United striker Sammy Ameobi on Twitter. A tweet posted by a user called @JonnnnyPhipps on Sunday said: "@Sammy_Ameobi your hand is nearly the same colour. #nigger".

In response a statement on Newcastle United's official website said: "The racist comment is wholly unacceptable. Newcastle United will not tolerate racism of any kind and will take the strongest possible action against those responsible."

Sammy, 19, is the younger brother of the former England under-21 striker Shola Ameobi, 30, who has played for Newcastle all his career.

A spokeswoman for Northumbria Police said: "The matter was reported to police on Sunday. Police are investigating."

Meanwhile, the Queens Park Rangers defender Anton Ferdinand has also been targeted with racist abuse via his Twitter account. One tweet said: "RT this you fucking BLACK CUNT, 1 England captain" in support of John Terry, to which Ferdinand re-posted another message in response which read: "More proof of JT leading his moronic fans by example."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/sammy-ameobi-racist-abuse-twitter

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

it is fucking horrible any time someone racially abuses someone but fuck if it took shola amoebi for the police to notice that people on the internet are racist fucks. they should head to a wrestling message board some time.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

Shit, just read that Jonathon Wilson piece about the Steau player being rendered deaf in one ear after a 'fan' ran onto the pitch and punched him round the side of the head :(

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/nov/01/petrolul-steaua-bucharest-romania-ultras

pandemic, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

Cabaye and Ba are very good though.

In different and complementary ways

Muammar for the road (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

that bucharest shit was just fuckin ..... saw the footage on ssn

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

was kind of thinking about starting a thread about that one, but I didn't know what to call it... could ILF use an "ultras" thread?

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

"batshit crazy violent" ultras

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

Hooli-hooli-hooligans thread

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

crowd scenes- did we have a few brazilian craziness posts in a thread before?

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

You may call Arsenal supporting Waitrose shoppers the worst but sadly you are rong: Ultras in the modern game

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

should be hooligans not ultras no?

mizzell, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

how about:

Ultras and Hooligans and Lazio fans in general are the scum of the earth: 'Supporters' in the modern game

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

the behaviour of ultras differs in different countries and even between teams in countries, a bit of boxing is an integral part of the thing in many places, however i would still say that in general ultras and other active supporters > the theatre crowd.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

also it's the modern game that's the problem more than the support in general.

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

ok well i was thinking that a rolling thread may work better if left open, as opposed to just starting a thread once a month that will get 12 posts but whateverz

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Ultras thread's a good idea imo, ILF opprobrium can't be weaker than a Uefa sanction. Also lots of ultras do cool things, a bit of compare-and-contrast can make pariahs of these goons.

Let dan pick the title though, eh? I'm still reeling from that belguim fiasco.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

aw man I am terrible with the thread titles

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

Is is about a mentality or just being mental? A thread about ultras and other active football supporters.

bomb.gif (dan m), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

‘His family are now living in England, so he's quite happy and settled,’ said Joorabchian in the Daily Mirror.

‘He had some problems about being away from them before, but they are with him now and everything is fine.

‘He'd be happy to move to another Premier League club.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/880359-carlos-tevez-open-to-spurs-or-arsenal-switch-says-kia-joorabchian#ixzz1cUh603CF

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

lol

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:08 (fourteen years ago)

Wenger breaking the bank for Tevez.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

pink porcelain fragments lying on a lushly carpeted floor, his children's eyes glistening wetly, accusing, beseeching

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:30 (fourteen years ago)

Ramsey, Arteta, Yossi, Theo, Chamakh, Carlos Tevez

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

Tevez has a bit too much commitment, character and backbone to play for Arsenal.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

backbone?

occupy wall street 2: rummy never sleeps (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:14 (fourteen years ago)

we have plenty of backbones! although they are often broken and in need of repair

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 23:23 (fourteen years ago)

Confirmation that police were starting an inquiry that could yet end in criminal proceedings was delivered shortly before Chelsea were held to a surprise 1-1 Champions League draw against Genk on Tuesday night. It was a game in which Terry was an unused substitute and it was marred by chants from sections of the travelling support.

Some among the 1,100 visiting fans were heard chorusing: "We know what you are, we know what you are. Anton Ferdinand, we know what you are."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/police-john-terry-anton-ferdinand

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 07:52 (fourteen years ago)

thought crime?

Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 10:52 (fourteen years ago)

I meant moral backbone.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

i know.

what do they know he is? a blind cunt?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:40 (fourteen years ago)

What can the FA do if it isn't a case of blind and white?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:02 (fourteen years ago)

engage in some pointless posturing?

Number None, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:03 (fourteen years ago)

It's a blind day for the fight against racism in sport

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:05 (fourteen years ago)

Richard Chartres, the Bishop of London, was formerly Bishop of Stepney, which would make him a natural ecclesiastical Hammer.

Is it possible this has caused him to change his name by deed poll this season?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/01/st-pauls-seeks-new-direction

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:16 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/02/tottenham-harry-redknapp-heart-surgery

Number None, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:17 (fourteen years ago)

Must have received a tax bill.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)


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