but it seems like o'hehir was saying she had no big insights beyond her surprising taste, which is just crazy talk to me.
― horseshoe, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
she also hated gays.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:32 (fourteen years ago)
Except those she let impregnate her.
― clemenza, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:32 (fourteen years ago)
unpublished photo of the kael household circa 1958
http://www.maniacworld.com/mommie-dearest-with-extra-slapping.jpg
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)
My household on Fri night tbh.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
morbs looks very pretty there
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:40 (fourteen years ago)
I do love the image of her changing the marquee at a rep house w/ Wild Turkey on her hip.
4-part interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtGCjGgecOs&feature=related
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:40 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ saw it last week. I love her comments on Paul Newman.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
The famous first meeting between Kael and Sarris over a drink:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wu6Z_RmeXD4/SyvfEcQmPmI/AAAAAAAAAeE/Jbet5NAS3xk/s320/robinson.jpg
"The far side of what? Oh, please."
― clemenza, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
It's been said before here -- Sarris took their "feud" way too fuckin seriously.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
speaking of auteurs (this is for strongo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ehxdlAlHQ
― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:44 (fourteen years ago)
I may have posted this another thread, I'm not sure. But if you skip ahead to the last minute, this brings Kael and SCTV together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDdfD8nHbok
― clemenza, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
itt renata adler outed as a jealous dude
― buzza, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
That Linehan guy who interviews Kael was parodied by Martin Short on SCTV, too.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
boy he loves his consonants and sybillants doesn't he
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
Linehan is beyond legendary here. Short nailed him, especially the five-minute preface to every question.
― clemenza, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
anyway i finished james wolcott's memoir today. still digesting but there's a lot about pauline kael, sounds like wolcott was her screening sidekick for a good chunk of the 70s. i don't know, wolcott has some perspective on kael but the fairy dust still clouds his vision. for all his un-sentimentality about the 70s clearly wolcott never took the message of "kill yr idols" to heart
― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
he's never been a Sonic Youth fan.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
he name-checked lydia lunch and said he liked new wave, though
wolcott's portrait of pauline whet my appetite for the bio; guess i was surprised by how enamored - verging on gushy - he was. but hey, if martin amis took me under his wing when I was 23...
― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
per the Frank Rich review, Kael making loud wisecracks and snorts during screenings should've elicited a "Cool it, auntie" imho.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:04 (fourteen years ago)
don't most of us do that though???
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:04 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha - she does that multiple times in wolcott's book, including at a 42nd street porno
― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:06 (fourteen years ago)
"we" don't do that
― buzza, Monday, 31 October 2011 02:07 (fourteen years ago)
"we" just watch The Dark Nought without a thought.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:07 (fourteen years ago)
not unless we want a clout on the head from me, no.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:08 (fourteen years ago)
we'd be like the sinners trapped in ice chewing each other's heads, right
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, October 30, 2011 10:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
yeah that would be maddening if it was happening in a movie you were enjoying
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 October 2011 05:06 (fourteen years ago)
Morbs: they do! She broke the news of her quitting there on the air without apparently warning anyone in advance (following her Lawrence of Arabia review). She had some pretty choice words for the 'liberals' there.
― vitameatawalloginavegamin (donna rouge), Monday, 31 October 2011 06:42 (fourteen years ago)
well, that's a trove that needs to be made available.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 11:59 (fourteen years ago)
also, what megalomaniacal film kingpin named a villain in one of his late '80s productions after her?
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
lucas! in Willow iirc
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Monday, 31 October 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
in the digital remaster he's changed it to armond white
― mark s, Monday, 31 October 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
Armond actually said a few nice things about the Star Wars prequels tho.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
haha, naturally!
― mark s, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
of course PK's swooning over Newman and Olivier fits neatly with her Kinsey-scale track record...
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:41 (fourteen years ago)
well, who wouldn't swoon?
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
her finding Absence of Malice > The Verdict is bothersome.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:44 (fourteen years ago)
Not really. He's much sexier playing a stock character in the former.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:46 (fourteen years ago)
and she's right about that late seventies/early eighties streak of Newman's >>> the fifties and sixties
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
Older actors are generally better. Olivier didn't become a really good film actor til he was almost 50.
Too bad she retired before PN's crowning achievement, Nobody's Fool.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
God, I just saw Rebecca again two weeks ago and was surprised anew by the absence of a character. He's jumpy, erratic, and irritable, like a man without a script, which makes sense -- Maxim isn't the killer that he is in the novel.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
Older actors are generally better
Not hotter, tho, which is what I thought Alfred was referring to.
― dor Dumbeddownball (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 03:49 (fourteen years ago)
1998 interview in Modern Maturity:
Jim Carrey has practically kept movies alive the past few years. But most comedians lose it after a while. They go on trying to be funny and it becomes ghastly. If Carrey can sustain it, it would be amazing.
http://www.paulrossen.com/paulinekael/modernmaturity.html
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 04:20 (fourteen years ago)
posted this re: wolcott's book in the didion thread and no one seemed to care
http://www.theawl.com/2011/10/the-cordial-enmity-of-joan-didion-and-pauline-kael
― max, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 04:42 (fourteen years ago)
kael seems like she'd be more fun to watch a movie with than didion.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:58 (fourteen years ago)
The "suffering little girl-woman" as Evan Hughes calls it in max's link is a type that Kael attacked relentlessly over and over again. See her review of The Piano. Kael probably thought Didion was one herself.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
it's not that i wasn't interested in that article, max, i just kind of don't want to read it because i love them both. i do think pauline kael would be more fun to go to a movie with. they seem to share a view of woody allen fwiw.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
the WGA screening room in LA was awful for this reason. nobody would snort or wisecrack, but a certain 10% of the audience would editorialize with sighs and coughs and pointed, sharp, exhalations of breath, and irritate another 10% who would op/ed with the same tactics.
― turkey in the straw (x2) (remy bean), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
I wonder if Kael thought highly of Campion's The Portrait of a Lady, easily JC's best imho.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
i just don't understand you dr. morbs. but <3
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)