Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

2nd isn't remotely feasible. 3rd is probably out as well barring some hilarious self-inflicted crisis at Chelsea.

no, it's not.

Fourth should be expected, tho, if we can keep adebayor and vdv fit. If we do that and can pick from king, gallas and dawson at cb we should be pushing for 3rd. More to come from the flanks than what we've seen before today even if we can't rely on vdv scoring game.

Also Arsenal probably aren't going to recapture their early season comic form.

think arse and chels might well blow hot and cold all season tho

btw is it me or was Torres totally anonymous yesterday?

Not just you, he was invisible

It's almost like he became the guy his teammates don't want to involve in the play tbh

Arsenal aren't very far back, but they're still no good.

my repeated comments on torres's anonymity were, apparently, anonymous

I didn't see those comments D, but maybe I'm black

blind, maybe I'm blind, I mean

arsenal won't get fourth without serious defensive recruitment in jan, more worried about liverpool.

Damn near more worried about newcastle tbh

I reckon Stoke will beat Newcastle tomorrow.

I think if I were to pinpoint one thing that separates Spurs this season to last it'd be assurance. In goal, in defensive midfield and in front of goal. Last year I got the sense that not all the team quite trusted one another and we just look a lot more composed this season. Ledley playing most of the games helps as well obviously but it's rubbing off on people like Kaboul as well.

blind, maybe I'm blind, I mean

Think the word you're looking for is 'blank'

was at my dad's yesterday so didn't read the thread properly re: invisible torres

torres' most evident decline is in his lack of agility

he is still fast enough in a straight line but he doesn't seem to be able to shift his weight and shimmy around defenders

eto'o has always been great at this, he can get shoved around by huge defenders but seldom loses his balance

If Spurs had had three men unjustly sent off in the opening ten minutes I reckon we might have got a point out of that. That said, the third goal should have been disallowed, and all involved in it booked, for conspicious flair and one-touch passing in a confined space. The English game has no room for that kind of filth.

lennon the only englishman involved tbf

http://i.imgur.com/dwwDW.jpg

Why is Terry calling him a "black c***" a big thing? Anton Ferdinand IS black..! Him being called a "c***" is just language frowned upon.
TheNickBurdett 2 minutes ago

Ugh. Been reading the same "what's wrong with that? Anton is black!" 'argument' for days now. I thought I visited the wrong football websites, but people on all football websites say the same thing...

btw matt, walker is 'decent' and is better than decent going forward, but he's been prone to leaving us light at the back. Suppose he'll grow out of that, look at BAE, exceptional at both ends today

It's almost like he became the guy his teammates don't want to involve in the play tbh

Sturridge saw a lot of the ball, prob because A Santos was such an obvious liability while the central defenders were solid, and was selfish & wasteful with it. Don't think he's very good on the outside of a front three, would have started Malouda there.

torres also ran into a lot of hopeless positions tbf

Lukaku looked good when he came on i thought

he did nothing save for the foul on andre santos before mata's goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGMNn8gfPC8

god guy mowbray is such a fucking wanker

xp

nah he was lively and direct, not sure how much contact there was with Santos either, i thought he went over v. easily

uhm, more than enough to obstruct him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thuxrI7Pss

he's mostly looked lost for chelsea, tries to take on defenders and just loses the ball

he shouldn't be played on the wing anyway

Way to pass it directly to a blue shirt under no pressure, André.

http://i.imgur.com/Ux3xz.jpg

hope he was doing his 80k A WEEK 80K A WEEK shit just then

Hate him.

BTW do you think Gervinho's been poor generally, or was your post yesterday immediately after his open-goal miss?

i think he is alright but he does duplicate what walcott offers and i'd like to see more of arshavin in the big games

arshavin needed competition

Not sure that gervinho "80% pass completion including some assists' is a direct xerox of the boy walcott tbph

More to come from the flanks than what we've seen before today even if we can't rely on vdv scoring game.

more than two goals from bale and two assists from lennon (could have been three on that one adebayor channce)?

before, before

We'd been missing it lately imo

lennon's a different playing when he gets away from the white touchline, so dangerous.

Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
What a footballer Luka Modric is, hats off. Best in the league by a mile.

the lad barton will win me over yet

I don't want to see more of Arshavin in big games. Ok so he was good in a Carling Cup game. BFD.

Gervinho fucking runs at defenders. He gets into the box. It's soooooooooooooooooooooo refreshing. He may not have had the greatest form yet but 'foreigners first six months in a different league' is not a new thing.

Also our defending hasn't stopped us getting into the top 4 for the past couple years, and now Verm is back and Gibbs seems to actually understand positioning. Sucks that Sagna was killed but if it means we play a centre half like kos there who won't always be too high up the pitch like Clichy or Santos or Eboue always were, we could actually address one of our problems.

Basically, I think we should at least make the top 4. Like last season though, I say this in reference to the incompetence to others. An Arsenal that can't defend isn't a new thing; a Chelsea that concedes every game is and they are making up for it by not passing to their sulky forwards who are in terrible form between them (except Sturridge). That and the EBJT race row is small change for Chelsea, there is always a bigger crisis waiting around the corner. Ade and VDV tend to stop giving a fuck once winter comes. For all their greatness, we are pretending like City aren't about to implode any second now - if the Tevez thing is really as bad as it gets, I'll be bloody surprised considering they have the likes of Tevez, Balotelli and Nasri as potential all time dicks, as well as the general 'why the fuck aren't you playing me' bench. Suarez needs better service and partnership. (tbf Utd look alright, unless they end up having to play Evans all season.)

Which actually makes for a quite exciting season. You can presume that City will win the league but there are 30ish games left with potential bombs waiting to explode in every club, with great players v. their own teammates incompetence all over the shop.

lol gooners

i don't know who any of those arsenal players are, city won't implode, spurs are stronger and liverpool are comin back and i don't think blasé references to being the historical gimp fourth in a now more-than-four horse race are gonna cut it

city
utd
chelsea
spurs
arsenal
liverpool

Yeah. Picking 3-5 is tough but I'd put money now on Liverpool 6th or lower, if I was one for that.

i want liverpool and real madrid to do badly and don't care about a lot else this season

sam's right about it making for good watching though. Just don't see liverpool breaking down teams well enough to get top 4, and wenger iirc was out only a fortnight ago so i dunno has kieron gibbs solved that all by himself since and tbh i'm p confident spurs will be closer to chelsea than to either of those teams by end of may

liverpool team is pretty horrible

in what way

mix of players still not making sense to me

team full of thuggish fairground footballers with one endearing racist adding a morsel of flair