2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

I know two people that have said that!
I was like http://ohnolookoutitsaraygun.com/argh-Picard.jpg

Even as pols go, does anyone doubt that Ojesus and Shrillary intensely dislike each other? as do their organizations? If faking authenticity is key, that ticket would be a nightmare.

at the various convention-floor-fight/seating-MI-and-FL/super-delegate-arm-twisting/nefarious-Clinton-backroom-dealing scenario

this is not gonna happen now. all speculation is predicated on Hillary winning OH, TX AND PA by wide double-digit margins, which is not going to happen. She's not polling nearly that far ahead anywhere, and all the polling trending data indicates Obama is on the upswing and narrowing her leads with each passing day. (Plus, has she beat Obama by double-digits anywhere to-date?)

Hillary's done. It's all over but for the kicking and screaming.

Probably pretty ridiculous, but I keep forgetting that Hillary isn't a republican

all speculation is predicated on Hillary winning OH, TX AND PA by wide double-digit margins, which is not going to happen

Tomasky says that if Hils can keep Obama to within a 100-delegate lead after OH, TX, and PA, then the game's still on. I don't think she'd need double-digit margins to do that, though I haven't done the detailed delegate math.

if Hils can keep Obama to within a 100-delegate lead after OH, TX, and PA

I think that's pretty unlikely given the way Texas is shaping up (and the fact that she could win the popular vote there and still get fewer delegates)

http://www.pollster.com/08TXPresDems600.png

obama's line is like a comfortable eames lounger

wtf w/ that "Since the Oscars" opening to the crazypants rant?

-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I assumed the reference was to this joke in Jon Stewart's monologue:

"You have to give Barack Obama credit, he's overcome a great deal. Not just he's an African-American. Barack Hussein Obama is his name. His middle name is the last name of Iraq's former tyrant. His last name rhymes with Osama. That's not easy to overcome. I think we all remember the ill-fated 1944 presidential campaign of Gaydolf Titler."

and clintons line is like a omg i gave up my insano half pulled back hair and hideous stripey pants for this !!!!

Even as pols go, does anyone doubt that Ojesus and Shrillary intensely dislike each other?

listen morbs now you know we all love you and thats why we are all gathered here today... you have to stop w/the nicknaming... this is an intervention.

^Even BBC commentators referring to Shrillary at this time. Which doesn't make it right.

Hillary's done. It's all over but for the kicking and screaming.

Not necessarily. Obama may show up to tonight's debate wearing his Native Somali War Garb, which may alienate some voters.

writing is on the wall in Ohio

Shrillary Discusses Superdelegates at Black State of the Union lololololol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__Ckx4Muj4

Plus, has she beat Obama by double-digits anywhere to-date?)

Also, lol @ her being proud of getting a fucking disembodied head of Sojourner Truth put up over 4 years. That's the kind of leadership I want; feel-good do nothing bullshit.

http://www.johnlumea.com/images/veruca_salt.jpg

"I WANT THE NOMINATION NOW!!!!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/22/michael-moore-insurance-_n_88057.html

Michael Moore said Friday. "Can you imagine, every time Sen. Clinton says that, the licking of the lips that goes on with these health insurance executives?"

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/12590/thumbs/s-MICHAEL-MOORE-CLINTON-large.jpg

http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com

http://www.tommoody.us/images/feb08/conspiracydeathmeme.GIF

Ick.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gC88Jz_3cbKywDYzCvon5M2_KZLAD8V25VQ80

mccain plays the good cop

recommending that article shakey linked to a few posts back

Asked whether the use of Obama's middle name—the same as former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein—is proper, McCain said: "No, it is not

I was not aware that Sadaam Hussein's middle name was Hussein.

Deej: Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't get the impression -- from the linked article -- that McCain was just "playing good cop." Bush distanced himself from the Swift Boat ads, but didn't openly disavow them. By contrast, McCain just unequivocally disavowed Cunningham's remarks.

I don't like McCain, but I don't think I can fault him for this one.

I was not aware that Sadaam Hussein's middle name was Hussein.

His full name is Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti, and Hussein is his father's given name, so it's functionally his middle name.

http://4chanarchive.org/images/co/2590289/1198561721053.gif

Choice Clinton quote from that Superdelegate Youtube video:

"So for some reason, people with those kinds of personal experiences which voters don't have; they see us from afar, they come to a speech, they see us on television, and they vote, and that's a part of the process, and an imporant part."

Almost every non-politics-following person I know seems to be under the impression that whoever wins the Democratic nomination will inevitably take the other as his or her vice president. I wonder how people who believe this will respond when this does not happen.

-- Dan I., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:04 (2 hours ago) Link

This seems like great news to me, it suggests that the embarrassing infighting and planned outrages aren't really making an impression on people.

Deej: Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't get the impression -- from the linked article -- that McCain was just "playing good cop." Bush distanced himself from the Swift Boat ads, but didn't openly disavow them. By contrast, McCain just unequivocally disavowed Cunningham's remarks.

I don't like McCain, but I don't think I can fault him for this one.

-- Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:32 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i didnt really mean it as a criticism, just a way of acknowledging that its a performance on everyone's part. def enjoying/preferring the sensible discourse mccain's pushing

That's the first time that I've actually lol at the Kane clip.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4d40a39e-8f57-4054-bd99-94bc9d19be1a

The Audacity of Data by Noam Scheiber
Barack Obama's surprisingly non-ideological policy shop.

Despite Obama's reputation for grandiose rhetoric and utopian hope-mongering, the Obamanauts aren't radicals--far from it. They're pragmatists--people who, when an existing paradigm clashes with reality, opt to tweak that paradigm rather than replace it wholesale.

replace it wholesale

obamanauts are suckers who pay retail for adjustment to their paradigms qed

yeah you're right, pragmatism has no place in government

i didnt really mean it as a criticism, just a way of acknowledging that its a performance on everyone's part. def enjoying/preferring the sensible discourse mccain's pushing

McCain is also trying to veer the conversation of this election away from Obama's character.

yeah good luck with that

everyone knows American polity prefers intense policy debates vs. broad character evaluations when it comes to voting amirite lolz

not that McCain would win any policy debates either, what with his popular "I am FOR this unpopular" war stance

well you can see how well attacks on Obama's character have worked for Hillary's campaign. McCain can't use the same strategy.

this has been making the rounds. o/t but megalolz

http://johnmanloveforcongress.com/

manlove

HIS WIFE'S NAME IS GINA MANLOVE

well you can see how well attacks on Obama's character have worked for Hillary's campaign. McCain can't use the same strategy.

-- Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:41 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Part of the reason Hillary's attacks have backfired is that it's a primary. McCain can be a lot more negative without suffering for it.

I don't know why you all continue talking about the 2008 GE, sincethe results have already been leaked.

http://memlinglinks.googlepages.com/hillary_clinton_net_wealth.jpg

NOW TEXAS DOESN'T COUNT EITHER.

i thought there was a debate tonight?

TONIGHT @ 9. Suggest slogans here, e.g., HRC's Last Stand!

LOL @ the Onion's "War for the White House" graphic.

i guess if cnn ain't hosting it, they don't care to say anything about it

The Emperor of Ice-Cream

Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered fantails once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her horny feet protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.