Inception (with implanted spoilers)

i think its reasonable to say some of the problems are because of the kind of movie nolan wanted to make, without committing a critic's fallacy

The movie is about a dude who blames himself for his wife's death to the point where he is a danger to his coworkers and himself. The heist is a framework used to tell that story.

But it wants to be an Epiphany movie

Inception is the ultimate Purim thrill ride

i actually think the rest of Nolan's movies are pretty much immaculately constructed, in that thinky-winky kinda way he favors. and everything about this one certainly feels like it's very deliberate.

but i think, even if you buy into the therapy angle im pushing, if the action scenes and all the rest are boring then the movie is still a failure, if a more interesting one.

one thing i did really love about the last 20 mins or so was taking the DW Griffith style of cross-cutting to amazing extremes.

how does a film see itself

I like all his other movies, tbh. Well, not the second half of Batman Begins, but all the others, pretty much. Just not this one so much.

as much as you like it (and i do too), it's a pretty tall order to call the 'insomnia' remake 'immaculate'

Oh I never saw that one. I stand corrected.

I think I like his movies best when it's just his characters going "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this"

I like his characters best when it's his movie going "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this"

Yeah, man, of all the weird sarcastic responses: "Inception" is full of non-stop exposition. And shooting.

"Insomnia" is still pretty good, iirc.

Like, "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this" might have been the movie's working title.

"Nuthin' But An 'Inception' Thang"

Insomptionia

At least "Insomnia" didn't have to explain itself in real time.

most movies explain themselves in real time, it's generally how one understands them

you're thinking of television news dan

I wasn't being sarcastic, I love "planning" scenes, they r usually more fun than the heist itself

* rolls out blueprints of the bank on the table *

totes

ocean's 11 vs inception

It's why the first half of the first Nolan batman movie was so much better than the second, it was all now I'm gonna make a fancy car and set up a company to buy super armor and blabbity bla.

That might just be me, cuz when I was a kid I loved the character creation process of D&D but always got bored playing the actual game

troo, origin superhero movies are always better than the later ones

i dont think anyone has adequately explained to me the plot hole that i couldnt figure out

still dont "get" the whole "limbo" thing? if you can just get out of it by killing yourself, why did leo and marion stay there for like 50 years? or did they never leave????????????

― max, Friday, July 16, 2010 1:04 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought that was because they wanted to stay there because they were enjoying it?

Because they wanted to?

like their life there was a drug or something

Because they liked it

It wasn't like they were trapped and struggling to find a way home for 50 years, it was more "WHEE FUN PLAYTIME WOO" and then Leo got bored and restless

Who would not want to spend an eternity recreating all the houses they'd ever lived in :\

... maybe he was incepted into assassinating his wife

okay but then why is it such a "big deal" to "go to limbo"

I prob mentioned this up thread but this was the dumbest part of the movie, if I lived in magic fantasy land the last thing I'd wanna do is chill in my shitty old apartment

^^^

basically everything about what people actually dream/fantasize about in this movie came across as wrong and stupid to me

Ya but since it's not actually about dreaming who cares really

Basically every dream sequence should star Fernando Rey and Stephane Audran discussing the perfect dry martini.

That might just be me, cuz when I was a kid I loved the character creation process of D&D but always got bored playing the actual game

word.

basically my favorite thing about Nolan, and really the only thing about his work that really "stands out" to me, is that he injects humorless po-faced philosophy into his movies. no, it's not terribly profound and it is terribly rote sometimes, but it's like the explicit purpose of his films to be brain teasers.

― ryan, Monday, October 24, 2011 12:25 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he likes puzzles and paradox, and those have a sort of aesthetic value on their own.

― ryan, Monday, October 24, 2011 12:26 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

i totally agree w/ this but i feel like brain teaser movies are so much better when there's a bit more of a playfulness on the surface that let's you forget you're supposed to be *thinking hard* about this stuff. when a movie wears its complexity on its sleeve as much as Inception it kind of loses most of the points it would otherwise score for complexity imo.

Ya but since it's not actually about dreaming who cares really

but they kept trying to make me care by blabbing on about it endlessly! OH NOES DON'T DO THAT YOU'LL BE STUCK IN LIMBO wait waht

i think limbo was a metaphor for heroin or movies or interior decoration or

ilx

i am posting from L2 ilx

it goes twice as fucking slow in here, but brodie is way funnier. whoa.

look at alfred bustin out soupçon! im always hittin dictionary.com when i read that n*gg*'s posts

is there a "definitive" take on Inception? I remember some pretty wild theories about it circulating. (like it's really Leo being incepted, etc.)

xp: ha!

― ryan, Monday, October 24, 2011 12:38 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

i think the one about it really being ~about filmmaking~ is pretty good

great tweet from earlier in the year: "It's official: INCEPTION has replaced THE MATRIX as the annoying film that all my philosophy students bring up, regardless of relevance."

also:

speculation as to which movie Tape Store will endorse to hate in 2011?

― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:05 (9 months ago)

MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, tho I w/o fifty minutes in...