Inception (with implanted spoilers)

i know, just as well as you do, s1ocki, that deadpan and airless are not the same. potato/potato.

in a nutshell, i found inception unfun and monotonous. the emotional pulse read (to me) as flat. it's just that - like the rest of nolan's movies - the band of psychological expression seems to swing only between 'bereaved' and 'dogged obsession'

people who complain about nolan's movies who have seen all of his movies: maybe you should stop watching his movies?

maybe you should start complaining about them?

I'd say he's about 50/50 good/bad, but he's not entirely uninteresting

Guys if anyone thinks there are lots of "alternate angles" to Inception or anything to be theorized about, then you missed a boat. And by boat, I mean a plot that was spelled out.

I think i said this up thread, but there's a weird therapy/psychoanalysis theme going on. or maybe I'm nuts, but i sorta feel like there is. in that case, it's not so much Leo is being incepted, but that perhaps they are trying to get him to "wake up" from a dream he is still stuck in and thinks is real. they have to let him find that closure on his own, however they rig the situation for him to achieve it.

remy OTM again

Inception. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

I can hardly see how somehow can call this "just" a heist movie, but if so, perhaps that underscores its pretensions and/or shortcomings, because surely "Inception" did not aspire to be "just" a heist film. I believe it is meant to be Somewhat Profound (TM).

I am sick of talking about what this or any movie "wants" to be or "thinks" it is. Intentionality fallacy iirc

I'm just saying, clearly this movie sees itself as more than "just" a heist film is all. Which is why the conclusion hinges not on the big job, but on Leo's subconscious state of mind.

The heist is the MacGuffin, albeit a MacGuffin that takes up 75% of the screen time.

xxp

true, a lot of the hate is due either to to the fans or the intentionality fallacy. it doesn't work in the way i think people imagine nolan wants it to work. that's fine, as long as it works in some other way, e.g. as action, heist movie or a human drama or whatever. but it doesn't.

I think it works as an amazing Christmas movie

i think its reasonable to say some of the problems are because of the kind of movie nolan wanted to make, without committing a critic's fallacy

The movie is about a dude who blames himself for his wife's death to the point where he is a danger to his coworkers and himself. The heist is a framework used to tell that story.

But it wants to be an Epiphany movie

Inception is the ultimate Purim thrill ride

i actually think the rest of Nolan's movies are pretty much immaculately constructed, in that thinky-winky kinda way he favors. and everything about this one certainly feels like it's very deliberate.

but i think, even if you buy into the therapy angle im pushing, if the action scenes and all the rest are boring then the movie is still a failure, if a more interesting one.

one thing i did really love about the last 20 mins or so was taking the DW Griffith style of cross-cutting to amazing extremes.

how does a film see itself

I like all his other movies, tbh. Well, not the second half of Batman Begins, but all the others, pretty much. Just not this one so much.

as much as you like it (and i do too), it's a pretty tall order to call the 'insomnia' remake 'immaculate'

Oh I never saw that one. I stand corrected.

I think I like his movies best when it's just his characters going "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this"

I like his characters best when it's his movie going "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this"

Yeah, man, of all the weird sarcastic responses: "Inception" is full of non-stop exposition. And shooting.

"Insomnia" is still pretty good, iirc.

Like, "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this" might have been the movie's working title.

"Nuthin' But An 'Inception' Thang"

Insomptionia

At least "Insomnia" didn't have to explain itself in real time.

most movies explain themselves in real time, it's generally how one understands them

you're thinking of television news dan

I wasn't being sarcastic, I love "planning" scenes, they r usually more fun than the heist itself

* rolls out blueprints of the bank on the table *

totes

ocean's 11 vs inception

It's why the first half of the first Nolan batman movie was so much better than the second, it was all now I'm gonna make a fancy car and set up a company to buy super armor and blabbity bla.

That might just be me, cuz when I was a kid I loved the character creation process of D&D but always got bored playing the actual game

troo, origin superhero movies are always better than the later ones

i dont think anyone has adequately explained to me the plot hole that i couldnt figure out

still dont "get" the whole "limbo" thing? if you can just get out of it by killing yourself, why did leo and marion stay there for like 50 years? or did they never leave????????????

― max, Friday, July 16, 2010 1:04 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought that was because they wanted to stay there because they were enjoying it?

Because they wanted to?

like their life there was a drug or something

Because they liked it

It wasn't like they were trapped and struggling to find a way home for 50 years, it was more "WHEE FUN PLAYTIME WOO" and then Leo got bored and restless

Who would not want to spend an eternity recreating all the houses they'd ever lived in :\

... maybe he was incepted into assassinating his wife

okay but then why is it such a "big deal" to "go to limbo"

I prob mentioned this up thread but this was the dumbest part of the movie, if I lived in magic fantasy land the last thing I'd wanna do is chill in my shitty old apartment