Inception (with implanted spoilers)

u just made me think of:
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remy they made that movie already... it's called 'the butterfly effect' and stars famous twitter user and part time actor ashton kutcher

deadpan =/= "airless"

its just a heist movie with a slightly different "dreamscape-y" twist, just because it pretends to be serious (which it isn't, really) doesn't mean y'all have to get all het up about it not being cerebral enough

i mean the movie has its problems, no doubt, but im totally happy to see nolan putting his thinky-winky twist on the whole blockbuster formula, god knows nobody else is really trying

still, 148 minutes is a lot of good intentions to reward.

its just a heist movie with a slightly different "dreamscape-y" twist, just because it pretends to be serious (which it isn't, really) doesn't mean y'all have to get all het up about it not being cerebral enough

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, October 24, 2011 8:51 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

Seeing the memes before the movie, I kept waiting for this part, not knowing that it was just a photo taken from the set.

http://img.chinasmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/leonardo-di-caprio-inception-photoshops-01.jpg

Kept thinking Juno would be on the beach while the dream city fell down and Leo would be walking like that toward her like Chuck Yeager in The Right Stuff.

tbh I'm still lolling at the "this would have been better if it had been more like 'What Dreams May Come'" argument

I know there's some pervy img zing to be made out of Leo, Juno, and What Dreams May Come, but goddammit I blame Monday for me not being able to come up with it.

the problems with inception (po-faced degeneration to mess) are quite different to the problems with TDK (lumbering MESSAGE subplots)

Both well worth watching, neither worth discussing for months after

also- they're incepting leo ffs

http://www.zuguide.com/image/Isabella-Rossellini-Blue-Velvet.3.jpg

"He put his incept in me"

Guys if anyone thinks there are lots of "alternate angles" to Inception or anything to be theorized about, then you missed a boat. And by boat, I mean a plot that was spelled out.

I mean the only thing that's vaguely open is whether the end is the top falling. Nolan says it is, but it's kind of the nondeterministic thing that leads to multiple interpretations in analysis, but to me it's not worth talking about because that is such a fucking boring open end!

I mean, if I was younger this might be ~mind blowing~ but I thought it was pretty entertaining if a little dead emotionally, which is kind of Nolan's stock in trade

d-mac otm, is what I'm trying to say

If Leo is being incepted or was incepted, what was the idea? "You are a clever, guilt-ridden murderer"?

What if outside the dream Cobb is a Pittsburgh weatherman.

xp not to do shutter island

yall shd watch Barry Lyndon tonight

me too!! we had to google it after we saw it to work out how it actually ended!! Still not sure.....

I think these 2 movies leave a certain degree of interpretation. The purpose is to make you feel unsettled!

I'll stick with comedy and chick flicks for a while - I think it was all a dream xxx

yeah at least kubrick knew his leading man was a no-charisma blank

i think we get the idea that conrad is massively more intelligent than the chicks he's c/ping or parodying or w/vs

fucking moron

oh fuck off you arsehole

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what just happened

the bump

i know, just as well as you do, s1ocki, that deadpan and airless are not the same. potato/potato.

in a nutshell, i found inception unfun and monotonous. the emotional pulse read (to me) as flat. it's just that - like the rest of nolan's movies - the band of psychological expression seems to swing only between 'bereaved' and 'dogged obsession'

people who complain about nolan's movies who have seen all of his movies: maybe you should stop watching his movies?

maybe you should start complaining about them?

I'd say he's about 50/50 good/bad, but he's not entirely uninteresting

Guys if anyone thinks there are lots of "alternate angles" to Inception or anything to be theorized about, then you missed a boat. And by boat, I mean a plot that was spelled out.

I think i said this up thread, but there's a weird therapy/psychoanalysis theme going on. or maybe I'm nuts, but i sorta feel like there is. in that case, it's not so much Leo is being incepted, but that perhaps they are trying to get him to "wake up" from a dream he is still stuck in and thinks is real. they have to let him find that closure on his own, however they rig the situation for him to achieve it.

remy OTM again

Inception. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

I can hardly see how somehow can call this "just" a heist movie, but if so, perhaps that underscores its pretensions and/or shortcomings, because surely "Inception" did not aspire to be "just" a heist film. I believe it is meant to be Somewhat Profound (TM).

I am sick of talking about what this or any movie "wants" to be or "thinks" it is. Intentionality fallacy iirc

I'm just saying, clearly this movie sees itself as more than "just" a heist film is all. Which is why the conclusion hinges not on the big job, but on Leo's subconscious state of mind.

The heist is the MacGuffin, albeit a MacGuffin that takes up 75% of the screen time.

xxp

true, a lot of the hate is due either to to the fans or the intentionality fallacy. it doesn't work in the way i think people imagine nolan wants it to work. that's fine, as long as it works in some other way, e.g. as action, heist movie or a human drama or whatever. but it doesn't.

I think it works as an amazing Christmas movie

i think its reasonable to say some of the problems are because of the kind of movie nolan wanted to make, without committing a critic's fallacy

The movie is about a dude who blames himself for his wife's death to the point where he is a danger to his coworkers and himself. The heist is a framework used to tell that story.

But it wants to be an Epiphany movie

Inception is the ultimate Purim thrill ride

i actually think the rest of Nolan's movies are pretty much immaculately constructed, in that thinky-winky kinda way he favors. and everything about this one certainly feels like it's very deliberate.

but i think, even if you buy into the therapy angle im pushing, if the action scenes and all the rest are boring then the movie is still a failure, if a more interesting one.

one thing i did really love about the last 20 mins or so was taking the DW Griffith style of cross-cutting to amazing extremes.

how does a film see itself

I like all his other movies, tbh. Well, not the second half of Batman Begins, but all the others, pretty much. Just not this one so much.

as much as you like it (and i do too), it's a pretty tall order to call the 'insomnia' remake 'immaculate'

Oh I never saw that one. I stand corrected.

I think I like his movies best when it's just his characters going "I think I'm gonna do this and this and this"