Inception (with implanted spoilers)

Have not watched it...never have been able to understand any of Leonardo De Caprio films.....still trying to understand Shutter Island lol xx

Matrix = stupid fun with Plato and kung fu
Inception = "i thought there was too much kung fu in The Matrix"

Inception = "i thought there was too much kung fu in The Matrix"

And not enough machine gun chases.

Inception was so so dry, like it was so afraid of being a big goofy Hollywood movie that it didn't allow any room for personality or levity (in the dialogue but also in the casting of a bunch of overly serious former child star types). Nolan's Batman flicks imo didn't have that problem and were funny when they needed to be, but man Inception could've actually been such a better movie if they loosened up the slightest bit.

what about all the goofy bits with tom hardy and the wee guy oh yeah the bits that were supposed to be funny are really up tight too

it's like a delicate metaphor about things encapsulated in other things i.e. onions inside of matroyska dolls inside of enigmas wrapped in a calzone, constructed with all the finesse of a drunk line cook frying a wonton in fat rendered from a liposuction bag

Delicious!

still think this movie is pretty fun

Yeah, I thought it was funny and smart.

it's not enough

we need to go deeper

What other massive action blockbusters even attempt to be half this smart?

drive

both of my last posts have been attempts fyi & before you start shouting

eh, attempts *at humour*

I liked them better when they were just "attempts"

we're not on the same level ;_;

What other massive action blockbusters even attempt to be half this smart?

everybody always says this like Nolan deserves a badge.

just throwing this out there but maybe if he wants to make a "smart" movie he shd not worry about whether it's a massive action blockbuster or not

What other massive action blockbusters even attempt to be half this smart?

Seriously, this is teed up like a pitch in a t-ball game.

memento, obv

What other massive action blockbusters even attempt to be half this smart?

The Terminator
Die Hard
Aliens

lol darraghmac

The question is, what other Hollywood blockbusters pretend to be as smart as this movie pretends to be?

The Terminator
Die Hard
Aliens

man there really was a golden age for action movies, huh

...and i don't care if you're being sarcastic

Con Air is obviously the smartest dumb blockbuster of all time. or the dumbest smart one.

John Frankenheimer to thread

man there really was a golden age for action movies, huh

...and i don't care if you're being sarcastic

I'm not!

Something from the last ten years would be good as a counter example. Matrix sequels do not count. And Nolan has made smart movies which are unconcerned with being blockbusters - The Prestige being one. It's like if Coldplay made an effort with their lyrics - yes, you could get even better lyrics by listening to Mountain Goats, but you wouldn't also get massive stadium riffs and synths and Eno production and Rihanna.

Goddamn I want to hear THAT Mountain Goats album immediately!

Basically, I'm saying we can and should want to have it all.

And Nolan's trying to do that; maybe he's not quite doing it perfectly, but I like his attempts (a lot) and I'm super glad he's not pandering to lowest common denominators.

while i sympathize with sick mouthy here i also feel like ppl need to get off the "THIS MOVIE IS NOT AS SMART AS IT THINKS IT IS!!!" train with this movie, it doesnt actually "think" that, it's just pretty deadpan

Oh but I'd say he does pander to the lowest common denominator – he's the art-damaged Hollywood hack for whom humorlessness isn't just an affect but a sign of his seriousness.

I'm on the THIS MOVIE IS NOT AS SHORT AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN train.

using the word "hack" in the context of discussing this movie is pretty meaningles

I'm on the THIS MOVIE IS NOT AS SHORT AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN train.

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 24, 2011 12:20 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm on this train with pretty much every hollywood movie these days :(

last action hero

tbh 'aliens' is a stupid :(

it is neither stupid or a :(

basically my favorite thing about Nolan, and really the only thing about his work that really "stands out" to me, is that he injects humorless po-faced philosophy into his movies. no, it's not terribly profound and it is terribly rote sometimes, but it's like the explicit purpose of his films to be brain teasers.

he likes puzzles and paradox, and those have a sort of aesthetic value on their own.

knowing how dumb or smart your movie is is pretty important, kinda feel that nolan falls down here where eg cameron tends to get it right until avatar

totes is xxxp

you're a stupid :(

roasted.

basically my favorite thing about Nolan, and really the only thing about his work that really "stands out" to me, is that he injects humorless po-faced philosophy into his movies. no, it's not terribly profound and it is terribly rote sometimes, but it's like the explicit purpose of his films to be brain teasers.

The discussion of "ideas" gives the movies a soupçon of intellectual heft. My problem is that the ideas dissolve under scrutiny, which places an unnecessary burden on his rather idly directed actors and his staging of action sequences (which have never impressed me).

your mum's a stupid :(

pwned, no returns xp

lol

The discussion of "ideas" gives the movies a soupçon of intellectual heft. My problem is that the ideas dissolve under scrutiny, which places an unnecessary burden on his rather idly directed actors and his staging of action sequences (which have never impressed me).

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 24, 2011 12:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he can have... problems... in the action dep't. though the gravity-twirlin' hotel fight was great.

anyway... inception. i dont think there's anything more to say about this movie, is there?

course not, it's just that fans and haters end up baffled about what their oppos do/don't see in the thing and hence the perpetual butting of heads

we should incept each other