Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

maybe not

He already gave the secretary the money

― Number None, Thursday, 20 October 2011 03:03 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 October 2011 09:25 Bookmark

I think you may be alone on that one

lol

conrad = mvp of this thread

being doggedly observant can really pay off

i read the whole secretary dynamic as walt encountering the real world of ordinary people w/moral standards for the first time in a while

me too

or like when artz went off at jack or whoever about thinking everything revolved around them when there were other people all around getting on with stuff before he blew up just a nod to perspective in a jokey way

the real world of ordinary people w/moral standards

Shaking Walt down for $25K is part this world with moral standards?

will be interesting to see how that plotline pans out

Why would it ever need to be brought up again? It's not a loose end.

surely any sane person will take the opportunity to extract 25k from a raving meth cook should the opportunity present itself - thats just common sense

I'd have to agree

try thinking about the bigger picture for once Martyr McFly

as a ugandan prince, i shake down all manner of people on an almost daily basis.
me and tyrus are like THAT

the thing is, walt is never an asshole in a confrontational way -- hes totally a passive aggressive bully. threatening the secretary would have been totally out of character.

I think the secretary is obviously the most important person this show has yet introduced. Just wait and see. She's obviously key to the whole thing, and people will be rewinding and watching that scene for months to come.

She's tyrus's lover. Will avenge his death.

in cahoots with beneke?

y'all are kidding yourselves if you think we've seen the last of the real estate agent that got Marie arrested.

don't think it was a coincidence that it was a spoon she stole

p sure Jesse will die at the hands of Spooge's girlfriend & her towheaded kid

Chew on this for a bit: it's been a while since we've last seen Badger... connect the dots and the whole thing comes together. Or ... falls apart!

Like I said, just something the chew on, until season five.

just rewatched the last two eps & have been slowly catching up w/ this thread.. gotta say, I think this was easily the most satisfying season finale thusfar. Excepting some of the looser plot contrivances re: lily o the valley/ricin poisoning, the only thing that doesn't sit quite right w/ me is that Tyrus, while checking Tio's room extensively for surveillance gadgets etc., would have overlooked the fucking pipe bomb blatantly duct-taped to the wheelchair.

haha I was thinking about that too

I feel like Walt went back and installed it. That's why he waited outside the window for Tyrus to check the room and leave. We see under the wheelchair in that scene—Ty specifically looks there—but NOT in the explosion scene, where the dresser blocks our view of it.

OK, just reviewed that sequence again & you are right: Walt waits outside until Tyrus finishes sweeping the room; Then we see Walt running to his car (presumably parked in some lot adjacent to the rear) & then Ty going back out to the front parking lot to call Gus & report on the situation. This ^ reading def checks out.

the way it was edited really made it seem like walt took off as soon as tyrus did w/o going back in the room - thing is tyrus wasnt looking around the room he was looking at his bug finding device - anyway walt sure did a horrible job of concealing the bomb

mike wouldve found it

I think that was deliberately misleading editing. We didn't see a LOT of what Walt did in those two eps (obv)

Showing him going back into the room would really have tipped it, as it is I feel like they set it up just enough w/o letting the audience guess too early

Mike probably would have picked up Walter's scent while W was hangin outside w/ the Ms. Dementia Cat-Eye Specs.

xp

Mike would have killed her and disguised himself in her clothes and glasses big bad wolf style. Guaranteed

Hopefully that nice old bird was not injured by the bomb!

Another detail I just picked up: the muscle(s) in Gus's post-bomb empty eye-socket move in concert w/ his working eye while he is standing, straightening his tie!

yeah that was a nice touch

I feel like Walt went back and installed it. That's why he waited outside the window for Tyrus to check the room and leave. We see under the wheelchair in that scene—Ty specifically looks there—but NOT in the explosion scene, where the dresser blocks our view of it.

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is totally what happened dudes. why do u think walt was even waiting outside at that point?

saying hi to the old lady, duh

I thought it was a "oh shit, someone's coming, better go out the window!" "Three's Company"-type move myself.

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This was all great. Secretary scene especially. I like that Walt's so far away from anything like normal now that it takes him a bit of time to realise "oh yeah, people do get make a huge deal out of just breaking a single window. Seems like nbd to me, why, just the other day I was mysteriously teleporting into the bedroom of a kid I'd never met before to secretly feed him a poisonous plant".

rip gus, even though you are a drug kingpin and you killed victor (which felt weirdly out of character) you still managed to come out this season as a better dude than Walter.

Curious about S5 now. Not sure I have the stomach for any more bad things happening to Jesse. Don't even want some "this is how bad walt really was to you" realisation.

rescreened pilot last nite, Walt kills a dude and ruins Jesse life in the v first ep!

Don't even want some "this is how bad walt really was to you" realisation.

Seriously, even though it would be out of character for the show to spare us this

what i loved about the show is how it has mostly avoided through four seasons throwing any soap opera "oh this shit is happening for really no reason at all other than to just be shocking and random" moments in there...for almost every major event, seeds were planted as far as several seasons in advance, like Marie's relapse into shoplifting, Walt's obvious chip on his shoulder and wanting to be the alpha dog and refusing charity (which goes back to the pilot), etc.

also love how slowly Walt began to digest the 'game', ie, very erratic in early seasons, and even when he starts to become a 'mastermind', he makes lots of mistakes and acts in ways that other seasoned criminals roll their eyes at.

sorta hate that Jesse gets this sympathy-vote reaction. dude is a fucking scumbag, his druggie ethics are some bullshit, anything walt gives him he sorta has coming - not from walt, obv., walt doesn't have any right to fuck up Jessie's life, but Jessie as quasi-noble meth dealer is some heavy eyerolling stuff for me

Jesse was never a violent criminal until he was literally forced into company with Walt (to avoid possible jailtime). he was just a small/mid-level meth cooker/dealer. what he grew into he almost always did because Walt forced his hand.

yea he's a monster, but he at least doesn't revel in it and he knows who he is. he's really one of the few hardened criminals in the show that has a hard time reconciling what he is.

It's not that he's noble.it's that he's p normal and not a complete sociopath like Walt,which in comparison makes him the nice guy.

I wonder if they'll show flashbacks that hint that even earlier in Walter's life (pre-cancer) he was equally manipulative.

I'm sure they're going to explore the connection between him and the Rosses and how he fell out with them....

I'm not.

what i loved about the show is how it has mostly avoided through four seasons throwing any soap opera "oh this shit is happening for really no reason at all other than to just be shocking and random" moments in there...for almost every major event, seeds were planted as far as several seasons in advance, like Marie's relapse into shoplifting, Walt's obvious chip on his shoulder and wanting to be the alpha dog and refusing charity (which goes back to the pilot), etc.

see this is why i don't respect the show that much, to me it's the ultimate gritty cable soap opera with TONS or random shocking developments.

I disagree. Unlike the Sopranos, where someone would accidentally burn their house down or kill Ralphie Cifaretto over something really, really pointless, almost every development on this show could be traced to events in prior seasons.

i don't think agree that plotlines necessarily SHOULD have seeds planted that far beforehand, but i really don't feel like that's true of this show