V For Vendetta: The Movie

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Anybody found the tracklisting yet?

kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

TV DETECTOR VANS?? i am quaking with phj34r, etc

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

okay... i did get confused. my badmittens.

yeah, there are little nods to stake out vans... and "88% of conversation indicates that people still think xyz".... and office rooms being bugged, so the good cops pull out some kind of jammer device or something... etc.
m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

ouch. salon shredded the movie.

yeah, maybe my opinion is awful. what do i fuckin know? it was free and i had a good time.
m.

msp (mspa), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

i'm avoiding reviews but come on who gives a fuck about salon!?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

the TV ads are awful.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

can we mention here that the original comic isn't *that* great? the pop culture refs are dire.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I am super-disappointed to hear that that Rose Almond and Helen Heyer aren't in the movie at all - if there's any indictment of the fascist society and how it makes lives of the average citizen totally horrible and meaningless, its in those characters' subplot

That's what I felt it was missing - ok so maybe today's dictatorship ensures its citizens have some degree of comfort, but if there's *no* privation or repression - and I didn't get much of a sense of any from the movie - then what is the point in rebelling?

ledge (ledge), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)

There was a throwaway line about not having had real butter in years - oh you poor thing. But no nuclear winter = no collapse of farming - so the ruling elite must have amassed an *enormous* butter mountain for their personal consumption.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)

but if there's *no* privation or repression then what is the point in rebelling?

Don't answer that...

ledge (ledge), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I think the comic is kind of in the middle range as far as Moore and quality are concerned (and I think he knows this too, his preface to the book says as much) - it is a bit adolescent, some things seem kinda forced, etc. Really what saves it for me is David Lloyd's artwork, which is amazing, particularly in the latter third of the book that revolves around the Almond/Heyer/Evey's boyfriend Gordon subplots... speaking of which, I think that's where the story really shows how fucked up it is to live in such a society - shortages, black market, ruled by thugs, reduced to prostitution and constantly living in fear, no freedom of mobility or speech. Really it bears more of a resemblance to Soviet Russia (particularly immediately after the collapse of the regime) than anything else. Its the cabaret scene where Bunny gets beaten to death that's the most effective indictment of the dystopia.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

(er, not Bunny, I forget what the character's name is... Bunny is the guy from the Ear, I think...?)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

The reviews are all over the place--and seldom harping on/celebrating the same things.
This is a good sign.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

then there's this bit, reposted from the NY Post:

Portman Bold ... and Bald ... in 'V for Vendetta'
Thursday, March 16, 2006
By Michael Kane

Natalie Portman, why must you grow up? You were just so perfectly pixie, skating around and doing the "doo, da-doo, da-doo" from that Lou Reed tune in "Beautiful Girls," or getting teary-eyed at a funeral for a hamster in "Garden State."

Now you're playing a gangsta rapper on "Saturday Night Live" and blowing up British Parliament in "V for Vendetta."

And, Natalie, can we talk about the hair? Does a nice girl go out and get her head shaved?

Meet the radical new Natalie, 24 years old and graduated from Harvard. Out of "Star Wars." And out to change the world, one subversive psychodrama at a time...

and it goes on, etc

kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

can i just say, as boring an opinion as it may be, that having seen ms portman make the talk show rounds this past week, that she is the most beautiful woman i have ever seen?

i have never seen her give a good performance in a movie, however.

amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Am v. excited to go see this Saturday.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

http://img128.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_87523_sey_18.jpg

amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)

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amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

http://www.qag.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/21818/Mighty_Peking_Man_1977.jpg

help me out here dudes

amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)

OK i saw the movie tonight ... and all i have to say is

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 18 March 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Well, I liked it!

Anyone else think the guy playing the ranting TV journalist had modelled his look and mannerisms rather closely on Christopher Hitchens?

Soukesian, Saturday, 18 March 2006 11:25 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was pretty good too. in a lot of ways it improved on the comic book, i thought. i was really glad they got rid of the whole subplot where the high chancellor falls in love with his computer. and the gordon stuff was much more interesting. did not care for the ending though, much weaker than in the original.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:07 (twenty years ago)

also i wonder why they made evey a nice young tv worker instead of a desperate girl out to turn her first trick.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 18 March 2006 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like this very much at all. VERY forced, and Portman was terrible.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:00 (twenty years ago)

i liked it a lot

kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I liked it okay. I'm still trying to decide why I didn't like it a lot -- probably the accumulation of small dumbnesses and inconsistencies. But overall it was pretty good.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like it at all, except for Fry and Rea. Politically, I found it pretty suspicious. It's like a Y2K-bunker-mentalist's fantasy movie ("The government are poisoning our water supply!").

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

The best comic adaptation I have ever seen.

It totally kicked @$$ and I'm going to see it again!

Michael Vanier, Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

wow this movie was totally shitty. and i loved the comic.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, it looks like the panel is split right down the middle on this one.

Soukesian, Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

I really am baffled that anyone sees anything special about this movie.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)

Anyone else think the guy playing the ranting TV journalist had modelled his look and mannerisms rather closely on Christopher Hitchens?

Aaronovitch or Littlejohn, surely?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 19 March 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Which movies do you think its like, Twilight?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 19 March 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)

I really am baffled that anyone sees anything special about this movie.
-- The Brainwasher (teignmout...) (webmail), March 18th, 2006 4:43 PM. (Twilight)

it was an especially good hollywood superhero fantasy

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:10 (twenty years ago)

NUH UH!

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:13 (twenty years ago)

with an especially good comic as storyboard / script material

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:15 (twenty years ago)

i have to admit, it was a bit deflating to hear reactions on the way out. i think half the theatre hated it.

most people seemed to think it was too slow. i overheard one guy saying "natalie portman's tits can save most bad movies, but ..."

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)

THAT GUY OTM

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

she has tits!?!

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:23 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like it at all, except for Fry and Rea. Politically, I found it pretty suspicious. It's like a Y2K-bunker-mentalist's fantasy movie ("The government are poisoning our water supply!").

-- Chuck_Tatum (sappy_papp...), March 18th, 2006.

um, you do know that the US gov't has experimented on unwitting citizens many times in the past, right? do the tuskeegee experiments ring a bell? the radiation experiments that clinton belatedly apologised for? or the cloud of bacteria sprayed over san francisco by the navy? MK-ULtra experiments?

but you're right, the movie was kinda "meh" though

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

vahid, quit clownsteppin.

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

(btw i'm not implying that "y2k bunker-mentalists" are right about anything, just that the idea of the gov't doing horrible shit to innocent people isn't at all crazy talk)

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:32 (twenty years ago)

And these are Nazis, after all.


ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?
That's a tough one. "She's The Man" is being called this generation's "Mean Girls," so...

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

isn't that basically a remake of Just One of the Guys?

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)

ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?

She's the man, obv.

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

it was an especially good hollywood superhero fantasy

-- vahid (vfoz...), March 18th, 2006 9:10 PM. (vahid) (later) (link)

That's the problem, though--IT WASN'T. It should have been, and it could have been, but it wasn't. Batman Begins was easily FAR superior. In fact, as a hollywood comic book movie, it was decidedly mediocre. The direction, cinematography, production design, and most of the acting (Stepehen Fry, Stephen Rea being the notible exceptions, Hugo Weaving gets points for trying VERY HARD) was decidedly uninteresting. Especially the directing. CLOSE-UPS ON FACES MEANS IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS.

As for film vs. comic books, it was as good as adaptation as one could expect, they just didn't focus on what *I* would have liked to have seen a focus on--namely, the questionable morality of V's actions (most notably changed in his broadcast to the populace, where he sided with the people instead of blaming them for their government) and the "it could happen IN YOUR COUNTRY" air of the government in the comic. I felt the "OMG A CONSPIRACY" explanation was in place to make it seem less of an all-too-real threat of elected fascism and simply the well-planned coup of a few people. Honestly, all those reviewers bitching about the "anti-US/UK sentiment" are really hypersensitive and should never be allowed to read the comic lest their poor little brains explode for being so offended. I felt that the absence of Rose Almond was SORELY missed, as it kind of took all the emotional strength out of the "this government sucks" argument. Also making her parents into "activists" instead of just people with "the wrong kind of past" made the government less scary.

In conclusion, Stephen Fry stole the fucking movie away from everyone else and ran with it, I am mad V didn't show Delia his face, and that whole "love story" thing was gross.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:03 (twenty years ago)

I loved it tho I am kind of y2k-bunkerish.

adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)

well ... i'm a big fan of both "batman begins" and alan moore's book. i def liked the book better (how can the film compete?) but i thought the high points of "v" were better than the high points of "batman begins", though.

i got bored w/ "batman begins" about 2/3rd of the way through. let's stop acting like "batman begins" is the "citizen kane" of superhero movies. there was a bunch of garbage in that film, too.

"v for vendetta" = "darkman" done right!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:15 (twenty years ago)


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