Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

it is kinda weird if it was just gus, mike, and tyrus running the criminal operation, with everyone else just a hired goon who had no loyalty. like they smashed up the laundry and there was nobody left who cared once gus/mike/tyrus absent.

i know next season they'll introduce more people, but in terms of that local factory etc...fairly thin on the ground as far as a crew goes.

i feel like there are a ton of more guys, they don't just hang around with the boss like cartoony thugs and henchmen. gus was too organized and smart for that. i mean he set up a whole german shell company etc etc etc. there are lot of other players, but probably kept far apart from each other.

can someone help me out...what was gus' original motivation for having gale replace walt as the chief cook? it set this whole chain of events in motion and i can't remember why gus didn't just let the walt+jesse team cook without making walt go mental

it was jesse being unstable iirc

- gale way more reliable than drug addict jesse
- possibility of handing walt to the cartels down the line, as per requested

ah yeah and walt refused to cook without jesse etc etc. thx

i think the second point is the big one though, gus knew the cartels wanted walt bad and that he might have to eventually give him up. he needed a reliable walt replacement in place.

def. would have been in gus' interest (after he eventually built up trust in jesse) to get walt back on side at some point this season rather than pushing him further and further away.

just almost stopped myself from posting that because hey it's a tv show and gus isn't a real person. but you know a tv show is good when you are sitting there afterwards trying to work out what characters should have done differently.

walt did agree to cook w/o jesse for awhile right, thats when gale was his assistant, but then he got spooked convinced gus was gonna kill him

really hope this show doesn't turn into some WALT Vs. THE DEA/HANK AS THE "GOOD GUY" thing... would be pretty lame

i'd def. still watch and enjoy that i think.. but i can't see them going that route at all

this ep so made up for the sorta lame set-up episode that was e12

lol @ this btw:

http://i51.tinypic.com/fub18y.gif

this show has so many iconic characters kinda amazing

Tyrus not handing Jesse the phone justifies all cardboradness in other appearances alone

I don't get these Tyrus complaints at all.

know what we don't know anything about? the next level(s) down from gus in this massive operation -- someone is expecting a shipment. someone expects to continue raking in meth money, and someone isn't going to be able to do that, so someone is going to be kinda mad. everyone who works for him is going to be mad.

who are these people? what are they going to do? this could also be part of season 5 but who knows.

I don't get people who are trying to make out he was a great character cos he had one mildly amusing line. He served his purpose.

whoever said he looked more like a madonna backup dancer than a thug was otm, his eye rolling routine was p lol tho imho

I don't get people who are trying to make out he was a great character cos he had one mildly amusing line. He served his purpose.

― Number None, Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:40 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

he was an entertaining supporting character. i may be overstating it, but the idea that the writers "didn't develop his character enough" or wtv is just silly to me

No one actually said the thing you're quoting.

well i said "or wtv" so i wasn't ACTUALLY quoting

and tbf you YOURSELF said "The writers didn't develop that character at all" which is even worse

hoping season 5 has a huell deliver a humorous monologue about crackheads and thanksgiving

I know what I said. All we know about Tyrus is the quiet, dismissive way he interacts with Walt and Jesse. Beyond that his character was not developed. And I like that about him!

if u know what u said why did u say that i said something that u didn't say when u actually said it?

~gotcha~

s1ocki now that you're back can you be back for real and not just to quixotically defend ilx's favorite show from ilx?

sorry this is a special sweeps-week guest appearance to help boost this thread's ratings :D

idg why every character has to be important and charismatic and pivotal and fantastic. Walt Jnr had no crucial part in this season apart from (a) raising the stakes toward the end there and (b) reminding us all where Walt was when all this started in s1. Tyrus was a hired goon, there was never any space for him to become anything more, and the actor did well to play it straight down the line.

btw Walt Jnr will clearly have some involvement in the final season because that's where the stakes need raising – Walt's family, Walt's cancer, the consequences of Walt's actions.

those stakes (save for the cancer the last season or two) have already been pretty high! i mean a hugely powerful crime lord threatened to kill his baby, driving his family into protective custody, how are "the consequences of his actions" or "his family" not in play already??

guys Tyrus doesn't have to be "pivotal" et al nobody's saying that. he could have one line in the whole series and still be an interesting player. instead he's a regular presence who's dead boring.

takes one

those stakes (save for the cancer the last season or two) have already been pretty high! i mean a hugely powerful crime lord threatened to kill his baby, driving his family into protective custody, how are "the consequences of his actions" or "his family" not in play already??

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:29 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

They're already in play, yes, but there's still loads of room to raise the stakes. The threat to kill his baby could become the actuall killing of his baby, family in protective custody could become family kidnapped by violent drug lords etc.

Remember this show has no sacred cows, so especially in its final season anything is possible.

guys Tyrus doesn't have to be "pivotal" et al nobody's saying that. he could have one line in the whole series and still be an interesting player. instead he's a regular presence who's dead boring.

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:37 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Fits with the simple yet cold presence of Gus's security cameras imo. Just another way of demonstrating that Gus was everywhere all the time.

yeah honestly it could be the actor, who I gather is s1ocki's uncle. my bad s1ocks, respect to uncle ty

finally

roughly half of the 500 times hoos has posted "ty" he was giving respect to s1ocki's uncle ty

uncle tyrus

Season 5 will be entirely about Walt Jr. studying for his SATs and applying to college. Walt will accept nothing less than Caltech - NOTHING! - and will do everything in his power to ensure his son gets in.

roughly half of the 500 times hoos has posted "ty" he was giving respect to s1ocki's uncle ty

― some dude, Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:54 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

ty for ty recognition

really hope this show doesn't turn into some WALT Vs. THE DEA/HANK AS THE "GOOD GUY" thing... would be pretty lame

Also he's compromised. The very fact that he's on the road to walking properly again because his expensive rehab has been exclusively funded with drug money. He's gonna hate that.

Also up there with Walt's bollocking from Saul's secretary was Hector, a senior figure in a Mexican drug cartel, being alternately patronised and told off by his nurse.

Just that angry breathing noise Hector makes is really sinister.

Tio at the DEA! if it's been mentioned already, let's relive it again.

"a,e-" DING!

"ok, row e, f-" DING!

"a, e, i, o, u-" DING!

hank: "ok, enough, we get it"

I wonder if tuco had one of those boards.

"At least he didn't shit himself this time, that's progress"

I wonder what would be a more fitting end to the series, Walt dead or Walt paralyzed in a wheelchair like Hector, abandoned by his family, futilely tapping away at a bell but with nobody to help him kill himself.