Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

and if i had to pick a defining trait it wouldn't be so much "mean" as "annoyed," which is way more entertaining.

victor seemed sort of cold and a hired killer. tyrus just seemed grumpy and annoying. didn't play the part well imo, regardless of character development or lack thereof.

man s if you found Tyrus entertaining then please let me sell you this 10-DVD series I've put together, The Paint That Dried

I gotta admit though, Saul's secretary became a top-10 character in 1/1000th the screen time that Tyrus got. Zero to awesome in 30 seconds.

idgaf the dirty laundry gag totally justified tyrus imo

i did like the dude who fring killed a lil more but

i like this incense plot development

how could you not love a deadpan badass beneath whose cold killer eyes was just a dude totally annoyed by his job?

didn't play the part well imo, regardless of character development or lack thereof.

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:25 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

like what, he didn't literally roll his eyes and sigh deeply enough? the guy did a fine job

idgaf the dirty laundry gag totally justified tyrus imo

yeah I gotta give it up for the dirty laundry gag

re final scene jesse asking walt if gus really had to go i took it more as a statement on how jesse still looks to walt for moral guidance ater all the horrible shit hes done

My only real problem w/ this season: not enough time w/ Jesse, mostly in the back half of the season.

xpost Codependency, yo.

everyone should say 'yo' at the end of every contribution to this thread yo

i thought the last walt/jesse scene, like a lot of this ep, had a sort of wry quality to it, like it was the writers reminding us what a pair they are. felt the same about the laundry scene, was kinda like "crazy walt and jesse are back on the road again" or something. at least until the plant reveal.

http://i.imgur.com/vCSDR.jpg
t-b: walt, heisenberg

i was looking up something earlier & noticed hes wearing i think the same shirt in the s4 finale as in s1 ep1

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/BreakingBadS1DVD.jpg

Here's a question: what loyalty does Walt still have to Jesse? And why? He could have just shot him in the basement of the lab, and maybe for a split second we were supposed to think he would, except that no one expected Walt to shoot Jesse. But why not? It would sure tie up a ton of loose ends for Walt.

http://i.imgur.com/ldaYI.jpg

None, but he loves him like a son.

And yet Walt would kill him to save his real son, though the nature of his relationship with his son has barely been developed over the course of this show.

tyrus was fuckin hilarious man. "does it have to be dirty?" "nope."

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:19 PM

^^^ also making jesse reach for the cellphone when gus calls for him. its the little things.

That's because Walt's own relationship with his son has gone backwards over the year or so of the story. The only time Walt ever pays attention to him is when he's feeling guilty about something.

the sound of gus scraping the chair across the floor

well tbf walt jr. is very annoying

only just managed to watch since because my internet has been down for 3 days..

bravo - one of the most satisfying season finales of any show i can think of

nothing that hasn't been mentioned already but i hope the big themes for season 5 will be
- hank unravelling everything (he's definitely not been a winner this season)
- the reason the mexicans didn't kill gus coming back to haunt walt+jesse (i guess mike knows more about this)

i'd be quite surprised if walt tries to take over as the kingpin but they have developed the character to be that idiotic so it could easily happen.

the sound of gus scraping the chair across the floor

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), den 12 oktober 2011 00:37 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh yeah this! such a weird and great show

- hank unravelling everything (he's definitely not been a winner this season)

in what sense? he's completely vindicated!

yeah hanks looking p smart rite now

btw i have watched this ep twice so far, not sure im done

well his dea buddies now have to admit gus fring was involved in meth distribution yeah but on a personal level i think he's gotta be pretty pissed

about

and ya i just rewatched it. fuck it's good! walt's relief at hearing that brock is gonna live, "thank god. thank GOD," takes on a nice shading when u watch it again

well i guess he might have liked to bring down gus' meth empire down himself rather than it be destroyed by fire and basically having no idea what happened

*down down

I'm sure he still wants to find out who the gourmet chef is/was.

i'm sure now that he's proven right he'll have the opportunity to investigate it further...?

you really think they're just gonna be like oh, this prominent businessman and DEA supporter turns out to have ties to mexican drug cartels, now that he's dead i guess it's just CASE CLOSED

yeah dont think hanks gonna give this one a rest

you really think they're just gonna be like oh, this prominent businessman and DEA supporter turns out to have ties to mexican drug cartels, now that he's dead i guess it's just CASE CLOSED

nothing that hasn't been mentioned already but i hope the big themes for season 5 will be
- hank unravelling everything

hank is very much back in the saddle is my takeaway from the ending of this season

either that or he binges on minerals in celebration and basically becomes a rock junky

it is kinda weird if it was just gus, mike, and tyrus running the criminal operation, with everyone else just a hired goon who had no loyalty. like they smashed up the laundry and there was nobody left who cared once gus/mike/tyrus absent.

i know next season they'll introduce more people, but in terms of that local factory etc...fairly thin on the ground as far as a crew goes.

i feel like there are a ton of more guys, they don't just hang around with the boss like cartoony thugs and henchmen. gus was too organized and smart for that. i mean he set up a whole german shell company etc etc etc. there are lot of other players, but probably kept far apart from each other.

can someone help me out...what was gus' original motivation for having gale replace walt as the chief cook? it set this whole chain of events in motion and i can't remember why gus didn't just let the walt+jesse team cook without making walt go mental

it was jesse being unstable iirc

- gale way more reliable than drug addict jesse
- possibility of handing walt to the cartels down the line, as per requested

ah yeah and walt refused to cook without jesse etc etc. thx

i think the second point is the big one though, gus knew the cartels wanted walt bad and that he might have to eventually give him up. he needed a reliable walt replacement in place.

def. would have been in gus' interest (after he eventually built up trust in jesse) to get walt back on side at some point this season rather than pushing him further and further away.

just almost stopped myself from posting that because hey it's a tv show and gus isn't a real person. but you know a tv show is good when you are sitting there afterwards trying to work out what characters should have done differently.

walt did agree to cook w/o jesse for awhile right, thats when gale was his assistant, but then he got spooked convinced gus was gonna kill him