Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

heyyyyyy wait a minute...

http://i.imgur.com/Ye68f.png
http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2011/10/10_gustavodemise.gif

my first reaction was 'they're showing him as a ghost?'

― some dude, Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:45 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

first thing i thought of:

http://cd.pbsstatic.com/l/47/7347/9780590457347.jpg

one of my favorite books as a kid

i think i had that book

u can see the wheelchair behind him in the gif

Gilligan and Esposito have done SO MUCH press recently

i am currently watching this with my ex right now and am awaiting zombie gus and this is gonna be fucking awesome.

thanks much for the gif btw, i bookmarked

lol, girl response was:
FUCK...
wow...
how did they do that?!?!?

bonus points for rod y gab on the walk out, missed that the first time around

The Jesse/Walt dialogue was off, too - Walt seemed to be saying the exact type of stuff in the exact way that sounded like he had actually done it and was 'cleverly' manipulating Jesse to think otherwise (I don't actually think this, it just had those kind of signifiers). Communication of relatively important facts between the two of them is almost reaching "Lost" levels.

Presumably Skyler doesn't know about Ted yet.

― kinder, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark

AHA! Nicely done, Cranston/writers. Walt's explanation/argument to Jesse *was* as full of guilt/nervousness as it sounded.

<3 this show so much.

Also yeah seems like no-one gives a shit about Ted

i think ted was a lot of groundwork -- we haven't seen the end of him

i think ted was a lot of groundwork

once his head hit the floor, sure

boom

twitch twich <--- ted's finger

Ted's dead, baby. Ted's dead.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/06/arts/vincegilligan/vincegilligan-articleInline.jpg

vince giligan dresses like gus fring

If Ted is dead (he is according to Gilligan) then he can only influence plots to a certain degree, e.g. Skyl?r's money coming back to bite her on the arse. Would be ridiculous to have an intricate Ted-centric subplot kick in nine television months from now imo.

lol:
http://i.imgur.com/1ZsKJ.jpg

xp will probably all add up to Skylar not being able to come to terms with all the dead ppl in Walt's wake. One being her LOVER is not going to go down well.

a dude she fucked a few times and had nothing but contempt for by the last time she saw him /= her lover

no. But it's someone who was actually quite a big part of her life rather than some remote bad drug guys. Although he's one of the few people who kind of brought about his own death without Walt actually having a hand in it.

do you have to say this every week, because people criticise the show based on its own high standards? or is it like a "shut up if you do not endorse every episode of breaking bad 100 per cent" thing? or presumably every episode ever made is the same standard and that's why we're on a messageboard talking about it? so nobody can say anything negative whatsoever?

It's not that, it's the sudden apparent lurch from week to week from people going 'OMG best thing ever' to 'hmmm, shark-jump anyone?', especially given that in the penultimate episode none of us knew exactly what was going on or how it was going to play out.

I don't even think the child-poisoning was that much of a plot contrivance compared to, say, Jane's dad going back to work and immediately crashing two planes into one another right over Walt's house.

I try to see each piece (in this case, each season) in isolation. It's a bit like bands that do one earth-shattering album and spend the next 30 years churning out crap – some people focus on the 30 years of crap at the expense of that one masterpiece.

I can see you doing that for something like, say, Community, but for something that's obviously episodic and not meant to be consumed on an individual basis it just seems like a weird way to react to a TV show. At some point you just have to have faith that the writers know what they're doing or otherwise why keep watching?

But yeah, I'm burned by Lost too, but the variance in quality from episode to episode in Breaking Bad isn't a fraction of what it was in Lost. And Breaking Bad isn't as difficult to resolve in a satisfactory way as Lost.

(Also I'd expected people to *really* hate the wheelchair bomb plot)

Pity Gus didn't live, cos then they could have had him as Two-Face and Walt as the Joker. Paving the way for Jesse to become Batman.

add me to the list of ilxors who thought saul's secretary was possibly the best thing ever

It's not that, it's the sudden apparent lurch from week to week from people going 'OMG best thing ever' to 'hmmm, shark-jump anyone?', especially given that in the penultimate episode none of us knew exactly what was going on or how it was going to play out.

otm but this isn't just this thread, it's the internet. w/tv, bands, directors, whatever. ppl sitting around goin I THINK THIS HAS JUMPED THE SHARK HAY GUISE JUMPED THE SHARK! what can you do, people love to do that, it makes them feel smart.

btw bomb plot only worked cause tyrus didnt search well enough via relying too heavily on his bug sweeping device, the bomb was not v well concealed - and the only reason tyrus was there to make that mistake is because the guy who shouldve been doing the sweep mike fucked up by not fully strangling a guy and got himself shot

― ice cr?m, Monday, October 10, 2011 8:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

huh? no, walt installed it AFTER tyrus checked the room, duh

thats why he hung out outside the window

anyway, the zombie gus was awesome.

dudes, this is a show where the 2nd or third ep had them boiling a body in a bathtub in acid, and the acide burning through the ceiling and blood splattering all over the hallway. ott gore is totally a part of this

this is like when ppl complain about how 'unrealistic' omar from the wire is

do u ppl understand how 'fiction' works? suspension of disbelief?

anyway, s1ocki otm

Sometimes it's just good to see a ridiculously ambitious long con actually pay off, especially when Walt has been so useless all season.

From Walt's point of view it's brilliant, it just looks like a cartel vs Gus revenge thing. Although I bet he's secretly annoyed that Gus died without knowing it was Walt that killed him.

this episode was just immensely satisfying in every way

i never once imagined walt would leverage TIO to get to gus, or the brilliant way he pulled it off, with the visit to the DEA. yet as soon as those wheels are set in motion it's like "of course, this is the only play he has"

anyway, the zombie gus was awesome.

naw man it's not about "suspension of disbelief" it's about that scene was like the Bud Lite commercial version of the show. it's cool to have all kinds of insane shit but HE LEAVES...AND THEN HE STRAIGHTENS HIS TIE!!! AND THEN FALLS DOWN!! is just dumb. but yr right insofar as dating back to Tuco times this show's been lots of stuff where yr like "well, no, actually, after this scene the protagonist is dead under any remotely realistic reading"

but that's one thing and dumb IT'LL BE AWESOME! HE STRAIGHTENS HIS TIE! clever-college-student flourishes are another imo

He should have checked for dirt under his fingernails as well.

Gus is impossibly cool and calm and precise, it makes perfect sense for him to emerge (in shock), straighten his tie and collapse. His face was blown off but his brain was probably (mostly) intact. I mean obviously that wouldn't happen irl but it was a great scene and a fitting send-off.

It had a distinctly comic book graphic sensibility but that feels like a fitting end for Gus so after a night of p much dreaming that gif over and over because I was thinking about it so much right before bed, I'm okay with it. Now stop haunting me Gus Fring.

it was sad, that aero doesn't like cool things

Zombie Gus reminded me of one of the Garbage Pail Kids and I can't remember which one. It's really bugging me.

"you know what would make the climax of this season better, is if it were a little less cool"

by the way, i took this photo on sunday afternoon, at an herb garden off kingsland road:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6226/6233982776_241412732d_z.jpg

btw bomb plot only worked cause tyrus didnt search well enough via relying too heavily on his bug sweeping device, the bomb was not v well concealed - and the only reason tyrus was there to make that mistake is because the guy who shouldve been doing the sweep mike fucked up by not fully strangling a guy and got himself shot

― ice cr?m, Monday, October 10, 2011 8:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

huh? no, walt installed it AFTER tyrus checked the room, duh

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol duh

anyway i still thin its important that mike wasnt there

"you know what would make the climax of this season better, is if it were a little less cool"

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:34 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pfft college kids

Mike's not there because he would have had to be killed, and the writers want Mike back! I think it's that simple.

feel like mike wouldnt have allowed any of this nonsense

That too

Kinda weird of Walt to assume that Gus was dead from the news as well. It was an educated guess but it could've been Hector and two heavies killed for all he knew.

I think Mike's the only one with a bigger-picture view of what's going on here? He needs to come back and be all "you don't know how badly you just fucked up, kid". Plus he's cool obviously.

Dudes, I just posted this upthread a few inches:

"Q: Given that Walt and Jesse know even less about Gus, and don’t know why he was so important that the cartel could not kill him, could their assassination of him come back to haunt them?

A. That’s a good question. We will be getting into that when the writers’ room reopens in November. But I can think of one gentleman who may have a problem with it, who’s a bit closer to home, who is Mike, played by Jonathan Banks. [laughs heartily] Mike may have a problem with what transpired, and I wouldn’t want Mike mad at me, I can tell you that."

That's the show's creator answering, btw.

Also, could have sworn, after Tyrus was searching the room and Walt was hiding outside, that Walt immediately raced to his car and motored off through an ... alley or something? I think it's possible that the bomb was just hiding in plain sight on the wheelchair, and Walt (and the uncle) dodged a bullet.

Saw a perceptive comment on the Slate review, which noted that this may have been the first ep of the season where you knew exactly what was going to happen. Not as a bad thing, just as a contrast to the "what next?'-ness of most of this season. I mean, we knew they were going to blow Gus up by suicide chair, but when he walked from the car to the room, with the faux-spaghetti western score? Dead man walking.

When

Guys have we ever talked about whether Tuco's cousins actually were doing all that crawling in the intros (per muerte cult practice apparently) or if it was also kind of an extended metaphor on the nature of their quest? There have been enough surreal moments in this show that one surreal one doesn't really bother me.

Listened to that Apparat song on the walk to the train this morning. Then there was a guy in a wheelchair when I got there.