feel like mikes employment history and loyalties were kinda fudged by the writers, like they thought mike was sweet and wanted to keep him around, there was that one scene where mike was all 'you know my real boss' to illustrate that he was just like moonlighting for saul or like gus had him there to keep tabs on saul, but really once it was revealed how central he was to gus' organization mikes employment w/saul doesnt really make any sense - only halfway legit explanation i can think of is that over that time span mikes involvement w/gus grew into a full time job
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:22 (fourteen years ago)
cause by this season he was gus' main dude
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:23 (fourteen years ago)
he was also introduced was also before gus had eliminated the cartel as a threat. maybe as things became more involved with walter's blue meth and production ramped up gus had more need of mike's expertise as an enforcer.
― lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Saul's mentioned before how many of his top guys - hit men, cleaners, etc. - he got from Mike, who, as a sort of all-purpose middle man, has surely dealt with Saul before.
This show is so expertly made that I'm willing to cut it some slack when its goes total Hollywood crazy with Walt's nefariously perfect multi-tiered strategic planning. But good for them for neatly, more or less, tying up several loose threads in one episode.
I guess this means the final season will be Walt outsmarting the DEA.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:25 (fourteen years ago)
But I understand the urge, having been burned by shows that I loved, to try and get some emotional distance from a show before you realize it's season four of Lost and you've been suckered punched by the slow creep of badness. Kind of a break up with it before it dumps you thing.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 12:43 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I try to see each piece (in this case, each season) in isolation. It's a bit like bands that do one earth-shattering album and spend the next 30 years churning out crap – some people focus on the 30 years of crap at the expense of that one masterpiece.
Really glad this is finishing soon though.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:27 (fourteen years ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:25 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I think the final season will first and foremost be about the ultimate consequences of Walt's cooking. All the consequences. Whatever plot devices act in service to that are in.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:31 (fourteen years ago)
that baby's totally going to be eaten by a kimodo dragon. unless the writers think of something even more NOIZE
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:32 (fourteen years ago)
walt finally this episode got to the point where he kills dudes w/o really thinking twice or giving a fuck
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:33 (fourteen years ago)
Consequences OTM -- at some point he will have to come to terms with what he's done/doing. There's nowhere else to go really.
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:34 (fourteen years ago)
Aside from swallowed by a lava pit in the mouth of a Komodo dragon.
If Jesse found out about Jane and Brock, how would the writers do it? In your opinion
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
lava pit's a good call -- they're definitely going to end up inside an active volcano at some point next season
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:37 (fourteen years ago)
meth volcano 4sure
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:37 (fourteen years ago)
and hank's face will melt off raiders of the lost ark-style
cook all the meth in the world in one volcano, walter white
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:38 (fourteen years ago)
Jesse invites over his old friends Badger and the other one and while they discuss audio equipment, he daydreams and decides to find jane's dad. He finds him. Then they bond at the bar and realize they both know walt. Then little Brock appears behind the bar inside of a cuckoo clock and tells them what to do next.
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:39 (fourteen years ago)
Another convenience I totally understand but which still bugs me a little: literally locking his whole family in a safe house for the duration of this denouement.
Writer: "Hmm, what do we do about Hank? About Walt's family? I know! Let's lock them in a house!"
Other Writer: "But won't that look weird to his entire family? That Walt isn't there?"
Writer: "Good point. What if we say he's ... working at the car wash?"
Other Writer: "The car wash! It's brilliant!"
Writer: "That's why I get paid the big bucks."
Other Writer: "So can we just keep them in a house for the rest of the season, then, or do we have to let them out?"
Writer: (sighs) "I guess we have to let them out. At some point they will run out of baby formula."
Other Writer: "They have a baby?"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:40 (fourteen years ago)
Terminator!
― Jeff, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:41 (fourteen years ago)
The neighbor lady that Walt set up to check on his stove was played by Vince Gilligan's mom!
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:42 (fourteen years ago)
No joke, my wife's first (fleeting) reaction was that Gus was a robot.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:44 (fourteen years ago)
feel like im abt to rescreen
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:45 (fourteen years ago)
my first reaction was 'they're showing him as a ghost?'
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:45 (fourteen years ago)
like i thought a nurse was going to run through him or some shit
my first reaction was like what he lived no wait hes abt to fall over dead isnt he OMG HIS FACE DUUUUUUDE LOL
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)
p sure I screamed "NO" at that point
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:49 (fourteen years ago)
(as in "NO WAY")
the opening scene where theyre bickering abt the bomb in the hospital is p lol
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:52 (fourteen years ago)
can i sak my own question DID U JUST BRING A BOMB INTO A HOSPITAL
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)
The bit where the bomb stuck to the elevator was hilariously dark comedy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:54 (fourteen years ago)
Small chuckle, the ep is called "Face Off." Har har.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:02 (fourteen years ago)
http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2011/10/10_gustavodemise.gif
"face off" get it gus' face came off hence the title of the episode was 'face off'
FUCK xpost
― lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:03 (fourteen years ago)
haha ty 4 gif
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
what this gif?
― lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:05 (fourteen years ago)
this one
http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2011/10/10_gustavodemise.gifhttp://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2011/10/10_gustavodemise.gifhttp://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2011/10/10_gustavodemise.gif
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:05 (fourteen years ago)
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:52 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
For a good 40 seconds it felt just like S1 Walt & Jesse banter
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
that gif wants yakety sax dubbing over the top
p.s. in gail's apartment in earlier ep:
http://i.imgur.com/Ye68f.png
― lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
haaay
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
niiiiiiice
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
From the Times int v. Vince:
Q: Given that Walt and Jesse know even less about Gus, and don’t know why he was so important that the cartel could not kill him, could their assassination of him come back to haunt them?
A. That’s a good question. We will be getting into that when the writers’ room reopens in November. But I can think of one gentleman who may have a problem with it, who’s a bit closer to home, who is Mike, played by Jonathan Banks. [laughs heartily] Mike may have a problem with what transpired, and I wouldn’t want Mike mad at me, I can tell you that.
Later:
Q: What about the closing shot of the episode, the poisonous plant growing ominously in Walt’s backyard. Is it meant to suggest the possibility that he might have poisoned Brock, or is it meant to say he definitely did it?
A.To me it is fairly definitive. But there’s the old Billy Wilder quote, which I am going to misquote, that if you give the audience 2 plus 2 and let them add it up to 4 themselves, they’ll love you forever. I abide by that. The audience is plenty smart, and I like giving them as little as possible, and letting them do the math themselves. It’s such a shocking moment, that you find out the full badness, if you will, of Walter White, and you learn, truly, what he’s capable of: these monstrous acts, up to and including poisoning a child to further his and his family’s survival. To me, a moment like that is best told delicately. It’s best to not hit the audience over the head with it but to let them do the math themselves.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/vince-gilligan-of-breaking-bad-talks-about-ending-the-season-and-the-series/?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
heyyyyyy wait a minute...
http://i.imgur.com/Ye68f.pnghttp://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2011/10/10_gustavodemise.gif
― lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
― some dude, Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:45 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark
first thing i thought of:
http://cd.pbsstatic.com/l/47/7347/9780590457347.jpg
one of my favorite books as a kid
― lagerfeld of modern despots (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:13 (fourteen years ago)
i think i had that book
u can see the wheelchair behind him in the gif
― lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:14 (fourteen years ago)
Gilligan and Esposito have done SO MUCH press recently
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:20 (fourteen years ago)
i am currently watching this with my ex right now and am awaiting zombie gus and this is gonna be fucking awesome.
― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:39 (fourteen years ago)
thanks much for the gif btw, i bookmarked
― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:44 (fourteen years ago)
lol, girl response was:FUCK...wow...how did they do that?!?!?
― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:49 (fourteen years ago)
bonus points for rod y gab on the walk out, missed that the first time around
― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 03:55 (fourteen years ago)
The Jesse/Walt dialogue was off, too - Walt seemed to be saying the exact type of stuff in the exact way that sounded like he had actually done it and was 'cleverly' manipulating Jesse to think otherwise (I don't actually think this, it just had those kind of signifiers). Communication of relatively important facts between the two of them is almost reaching "Lost" levels.Presumably Skyler doesn't know about Ted yet.― kinder, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark
Presumably Skyler doesn't know about Ted yet.
― kinder, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark
AHA! Nicely done, Cranston/writers. Walt's explanation/argument to Jesse *was* as full of guilt/nervousness as it sounded.
<3 this show so much.
― kinder, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 04:31 (fourteen years ago)
Also yeah seems like no-one gives a shit about Ted
― kinder, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)