That I can get behind, but he certainly doesnt actually know.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:30 (fourteen years ago)
HANK KNOWS
― conrad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:30 (fourteen years ago)
for anyone not following this thread I have been satirising the idea that hank may know btw
― conrad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
haha
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:32 (fourteen years ago)
it's clever stuff
― conrad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:34 (fourteen years ago)
Also, maybe try a different show?
I can't remember any end-of-season cliffhangers in this show? Just saying I hope they don't spring one on us this time.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 October 2011 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
I think the situation with Gus has now gone so far beyond the point-of-no-return that he has to either die, be kidnapped or put seriously in hospital to give Walt and Jesse some breathing space.
It's worth remembering that whatever is in Gus's past is so bad and so terrifying that the head of a Mexican drug cartel did not dare to kill him when he had ample opportunity. Whatever that is is going to rain down so fucking hard on Walt and Jesse and they don't even know it. I kind of want to see that happen.
The Gus character is awesome but they can bring him back in flashbacks if need be.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:01 (fourteen years ago)
Whatever that is is going to rain down so fucking hard on Walt and Jesse and they don't even know it.
This is why I've been wondering if Walt has seen the last of his family, with Sky, Walt Jr and Holly all going to Colorado or whatever. It seems possible that things will ratchet up way beyond the point of car wash cover stories.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:07 (fourteen years ago)
It's worth remembering that whatever is in Gus's past is so bad and so terrifying that the head of a Mexican drug cartel did not dare to kill him when he had ample opportunity.
thought this was more because of his assets than any repercussions unless you think they'd be just as happy to kill gus and kidnap walt/jesse and force them to cook in mexico
― conrad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:35 (fourteen years ago)
"I know who you are" pretty much implies it's about status over assets.
― tehresa, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:15 (fourteen years ago)
It's been a while and I can't remember the exact wording, but I think he said 'the only reason I didn't kill you is that I know what you are' or something along those lines. I took that to mean that he could see that Gus was a businessman/a professional etc and that he could envision Gus making them money and getting on with things without causing problems even despite killing his cook/friend in front of him. It never occurred to me until I read it on here that he may have meant Gus had crazy dangerous connections.
― peligro, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:32 (fourteen years ago)
Pretty sure it was "I know who you are", and it is implied in the previous season that Gus has military connections.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:35 (fourteen years ago)
I think if the Don was that interested in retaining Gus's business insight he might have thought twice about shooting his meth cook in the head. And if he wasn't that interested then being a good businessman alone would not be enough to save Gus's life.
Whatever's happened in between may have changeed the Don's mind about keeping Gus around, but I definitely think that military/high status/seriously terrifying organised crime connections are implied.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:41 (fourteen years ago)
I just thought that the Don was working from a gut feeling that Gus could be trusted and had something about him (he had shown himslef to be both brave and shrewd, and had an excellent front for his drug dealing via the restaurant) and the cook potentially wasn't as reliable.
I clearly missed any implied military background, it would explain the fastidiousness and emotionless brutality I suppose.
― peligro, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:46 (fourteen years ago)
Also if Hank is correct about the sheer scale of Gus's empire outside Los Pollos Hermanos then someone would probably have to have been bankrolling it in the early stages.
Wonder how much Mike knows as well.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:50 (fourteen years ago)
Mike is omniscient
― Number None, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
Gus having military or similar links was hinted at with hank's background check too.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:34 (fourteen years ago)
cranstons interview w/ marc maron is up today -- sorta some mild spoilers abt the season finale late in the interview (~1h 17m) where he describes in vague terms the end of the ep b4 it goes 2 black
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:57 (fourteen years ago)
Gus having military or similar links was hinted at with hank's background check too.what if he is augusto jr and not gustavo?
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:15 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe he is Hitler's grandson.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:19 (fourteen years ago)
What if Mike is the reincarnation of Copernicus?
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:22 (fourteen years ago)
I can get on board with the copernicus-hitler theory but gus having military/high status/seriously terrifying organised crime connections doesn't seem to jive with the don pushing him around and generally treating him like a bitch I may have missed something
― conrad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.avclub.com/articles/jonathan-banks,62836/?utm_medium=promobar&utm_campaign=recirculation
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
I'm pretty confident that
a) Gus will die.b) next season's "big bad" will be when Walt discovers the reasons why not even the cartel was willing to shoot him. IE, his backers.
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
In the next season, Walt takes on Germany.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
Dunno, in the cause-for-retribution stakes, treating someone like a bitch is a bit different to shooting them in the head and dumping their body in the desert.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
Aye but he just seemed to talk to him in such a contemptuous way. Like if Gus was backed by some serious people then why would he fuck with him so much. I think it's more likely that 'I know who you are' is more 'I know you're a pussy and can't harm me' than anything else. Which was obviously wrong in the long run.
But as I said I hadn't actually picked up on any of this military stuff so I may not be paying enough attention!
― peligro, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
could be gus is connected to some high government (like people have said military) official - in which case treating like a bitch over a drug deal is fine because hes not going to go running to daddy - but if you murder him its another story
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
somehow connected to the german conglomerate too fer sure
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
Gus could be an angel/god. Or at least the terminator.
― Jeff, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
yeah prob
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
Gus, Jesse, Mike, Tyrus are all in Walt's head. He really made that money by counting cards.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
This entire show has been told in flashback from the afterlife.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
Gus is Walts father.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
walt is the island
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Walt is on meth and hallucinating the whole thing.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
Augusto Pinochet is Walt Jr's spirit animal
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
The whole thing is an elaborate ruse from death's perspective a la Final Destination. Walk cheated death and now he must pay.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
Walt.
I almost want all of these to happen. To watch the Internet explode.
― Jeff, Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
Just wait until Walt gets chased down by a polar bear. I know, in New Mexico!? WTF, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
treating like a bitch over a drug deal is fine because hes not going to go running to daddy - but if you murder him its another story
if you murder him he'll go running to daddy - this is scary
― conrad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)
gus is the table
― the boy with the gorn at his side (Edward III), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
i don't remember anything about gus having some hinted to military past.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Hearty LOL
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
― the boy with the gorn at his side (Edward III), Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
thakig u
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 7 October 2011 04:31 (fourteen years ago)
In the flashback episode with Tio and the cousins last season, Tio called him "generalissimo" or something, on the phone.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 09:17 (fourteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Leigh
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:13 (fourteen years ago)
yeah tracer but jesse always calls walt mr. white and walt isn't *actually* white
― conrad, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
And Skylar isn't ~actually~ blue
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:44 (fourteen years ago)