ice cr?m and aero relentlessly otm here and i have never been an apple dude at all. this is just history we're talking.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
yeah idk arguing about this just seems like nagl. Obviously everybody has some threshold for when a death affects them; if we were sad about everyone who died we'd all be sad all the time.
― (silby), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
idk I also feel like, can we not use the death of a famous person to take the moral high ground here? especially when we are all posting from computers that are made in china?
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
Like, people can record an entire, releasable album on a fucking iPad. That's pretty major. The existence of ProTools made possible editing choices that Les Paul could only dream of when he ordered that 8-track machine from Ampex.
― You people are supposed to be some kind of music culture intelligentsi (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
Cheap labour is why there's a burgeoning middle class in so many developing countries. In places like India and China it's now possible for more people to achieve a relatively decent standard of living. I'm not attributing this to Jobs btw. And before I get attacked, understand that this is merely a counterpoint; there's no black & white when it comes to the effects of industry in developing countries.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
no moral high ground. it's a complex legacy because there is an inventor/visionary piece and there's a major, important business piece too. i don't think there's a problem with noting them both.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
ffs, a dude died, he did a lot of awesome shit, he also did some of this bad shit
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
possible age gap thing going on here though. I am guessing that people who became adults before computers became ubiquitous are more greatly affected than those for whom the pre-computer age ended before they hit high school - just a guess tho I don't mean that in a "you whippersnappers" way or anything
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, October 5, 2011
OTM, also coming of age pre/post ipod
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/05/stay-hungry-stay-foolish/ <-- good speech (I skimmed it)
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
oh it's been quoted itt, nm xp
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
btw also PIXAR
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
4 real
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
i am old enough to remember not having computers in middle school - at home or at school - and i feel bad that jobs died because he was an amazing businessman, but even though i own three macs, two iphones, an ipod and an ipad i find it hard to say i couldn't live w/o this stuff
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
that counts for at least like, 50,000 underpaid chinese workers
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/KWjuG.png
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
Not long before Steve Jobs’ second coming to Apple in 1996 he was giving a talk to The Stanford Graduate School of Business’ High Tech Club at the home of a student. For three hours he sat in the lotus position on the floor in front of the living-room fireplace answering questions good-naturedly. Afterwards, the host, a young MBA candidate named Steve Jurvetson, asked the legendary figure to autograph his Macintosh keyboard which had already been signed by Apple cofounder Steve Woznyak. Steve Jobs said he’d do it, but only if first he could remove all the unnecessary keys that his successors had added in a foolish effort to make the Mac more like a Microsoft-Intel PC. He despised the long row of so-called function keys (like “F1”) and the cluster of navigational arrow keys which were clunky alternatives to the more intuitive process of using a mouse to explore menus and icons. So Jobs pulled his car keys out of his pocket and began scooping into the computer keyboard, violently disgorging all the keys that offended him. “I’m changing the world one keyboard at a time”, he said with a straight face. Only then when he had mutilated the apparatus, did he take a pen and scribble his autograph on it.
Steve Jobs said he’d do it, but only if first he could remove all the unnecessary keys that his successors had added in a foolish effort to make the Mac more like a Microsoft-Intel PC. He despised the long row of so-called function keys (like “F1”) and the cluster of navigational arrow keys which were clunky alternatives to the more intuitive process of using a mouse to explore menus and icons. So Jobs pulled his car keys out of his pocket and began scooping into the computer keyboard, violently disgorging all the keys that offended him. “I’m changing the world one keyboard at a time”, he said with a straight face. Only then when he had mutilated the apparatus, did he take a pen and scribble his autograph on it.
stories like this always remind me of the zen assholes thread.
― joe, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
I am old enough to remember not having computers AT ALL, and I cannot imagine living a life without them.
― You people are supposed to be some kind of music culture intelligentsi (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
speaking of ceo/founder deaths, i have to admit that when glen "taco" bell died in 2010 i shed a tear.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
kinda miffed that steve jobs gets his own thread but the guy who invented doritos only gets a threadbump.
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
also anyone saying they could "live without computers" should just put their money where their mouth is and grow a ted kaczynski beard already
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
notice i didn't say "computers"
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
i still think you secretly want to grow that beard
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think i could live without doritos, if cool ranch could be transferred to another snack.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
its more the concept of 'cool ranch' that im into
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
at my orientation on the first day of college they told us what buildings the unabomber was targeting
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
guys the dorito guy just ripped off cool ranch from the r&d department at pringles
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
does pringles have prior art they can show?
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
marco arment: http://www.marco.org/2011/10/05/steve-jobs-dies
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
who is markers arment
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
and markers... how is it that you haven't posted... you know
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe sarah palin and steve jobs died on the same day--what are the odds
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
100%
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
guys sarah palin just stole her personality from the r&d department at omni consumer products
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yah, she ran on iOS 3.0, was really time for her to go.
― You people are supposed to be some kind of music culture intelligentsi (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
obama: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/05/president-obama-passing-steve-jobs-he-changed-way-each-us-sees-world
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/aNrla.png
― markers, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:45 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
kinda bewildered at all this tbh
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
kinda bewildered at how you're communicating with us via telegraph tbh
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
The only Apple product I've ever owned was a used Mac in the '90s. But when I heard this news on the way home tonight, I totally understood its import, and knew I'd take 10 minutes tomorrow morning talking about him with my students.
― clemenza, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
<3
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
tim cook: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/10/05Apple-Media-Advisory.html
http://i.imgur.com/ZmxVZ.jpg
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
sergey brin: https://plus.google.com/109813896768294978296/posts/dwmWyNSoXTh
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
walt mossberg: http://allthingsd.com/20111005/the-steve-jobs-i-knew/
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
that photo is awesome
― lukas, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
Apple IIc manual
― per metal injection (Eazy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
read mossberg's piece btw
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
i am doing so atm and it has some good stuff in there