Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

i don't think so, i feel the absence of rooney will stand to them throughout the season

arsenal to win the league
everton win fair play award

swansea look like they'll be ok tbh.

Relegated this year look like:

Norwich
Blackburn

Nah Swansea "actually play really good attacking football" which means "will get smashed a load of times and then go down", like Blackpool last year, like West Brom a few seasons back etc etc.

Norwich at least look like they can make things awkward for people, but yeah they may not be good enough at it to beat the drop. Wigan have to go down at some point.

I'm assuming Blackburn will sack Kean within the fortnight and it depends who they replace him with, but tbh when you're flying your relegation-threatened team to play a friendly in India in the middle of the season you deserve to go down.

I had QPR down early doors to finish bottom, but they literally look like a whole new team now, the 6-0 notwithstanding.

Swansea got thrashed by City and Chelsea when they tried to attack, lost to Arsenal on a freak goal, and have kept clean sheets in the other four matches. I think they'll stay up and could be closer to 10th than 20th if they find a goalscorer.

West Brom are looking like they could challenge for relegation, Sunderland clearly have issues, we'll be right there in the mix if McCarthy's still there come May.

qpr could come 7th or 17th, there's not really that much in it either way

same goes for everyone else

true tbh

Been keeping an eye on the West Brom message boards over the last few weeks to see what they think of Hodgson (obsessed? me?) and it's the exact same comments and complaints that we had with him last season. Should keep them up, what with his 36 years of experience, but wouldn't be surprised if his contract isn't renewed.

wonder if they're not all liverpool fans tbh

they're on to me

saying that though i will feel pretty scandalised if wigan don't go down this year

agree blackburn's next manager if decent and installed promptly could keep them up with ease, but that's two big ifs innit

there's a good strong pool of contenders for relegation tbh. Stoke arsenal everton villa and fulham should all be ok, take out the top four and liverpool and the rest are gonna be in there

newcastle look ok too

Martinez turning down Villa will look insane if Wigan do go down. Looks pretty strange already.

You know who'd be ideal for Blackburn? Big Sam.

Fortunately, the stars appear to be aligning for Shearer's second crack at The Big Time.

i wonder if 40 yr olds feel about bryan robson the way 30 yr olds will end up feeling about keane, shearer

Robson was always over-rated shit, guess Shearer wasn't over-rated while he was playing

You wash your mouth out, sonny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YkNk8jyyQ

That's the game I think where there's a pitch invasion at the end and Robson gets mobbed by a load of scallies (or whatever the mancunian equivalent is), and it's an astonishing moment of cognitive dissonance because he's the same size as them. You get used to seeing the likes of Drogba towering over mere mortals; Robson became a colossus just by doing amazing things.

that doesn't make a whole lot of sense

Robson was terrible for England, a workmanlike nothing who apparently got capped for running around a lot, and dragged that England team into the same workmanlike tedium as him, a non-triumph of effort under ability.

ever thus tbf

RIP Glenn Hoddle.

Hoddle kinda marginalized for a lot of his England career so they could fit more Robson-esque carthorses in

still, lesson well learned in time for le-tiss

Nyaaaaaa.....England, Schmengland.

well, in time for scholes at least

well, ok, surely with thudd.....

I'm assuming Blackburn will sack Kean within the fortnight and it depends who they replace him with

It'd have to be a Scotsman, to keep up the quota.

forgot Robson's glorious Man U career during the 80s that saw them 4 times division 1 winners and a couple of European Cup wins too.

or maybe he just scored a goal once

RIP Wayne Rooney's dad.

Quite, and don't forget about Wayne's uncle Ritchie RIP

vdv. what do we think? genuine world class talent who's been unlucky with injuries/coaches or genuine world-class talent who's a crocked bigmouth?

Is this still about what he said the tabloids wanted him to have said?

Because he really didn't say a lot tbh

can you translate?

Van der Vaart admitted he had "small irritations". "One prefers to play in the position where one's qualities come to light the most," the midfielder told Tuesday in Algemeen Dagblad. "And if you have to chase an upcoming back all the time, that isn't really good for one's own play." Complaining about this to Redknapp he hasn't done yet. "It was only the first time and besides I got a lot of freedom to move to the centre," acknowledges the ex Ajax player. "I do what the manager asks me to, and I assume this is not going to be the routine."

(^^ translated for u boo)

and that lead UK headlines like:
"Rafael van der Vaart risks Harry wrath"
"Rafa blast at Spurs’ tactics"
"VDV questions Redknapp"
"Rafael van der Vaart put himself on a collision course with Redknapp"

ah, but the question is- how good is redknapp's dutch?

He should have a schat with Schteve

Redknapp told the Sun: "Rafa is a terrific footballer. He has great skill. But if you're in the team and asked to do a job, really, you should just do it.

"It does seem to be a problem. Rafa can't run back and chase the full-back. Against the better teams it is a problem. His best position is in the middle, playing just behind the front man. The only problem is that Jermain Defoe plays there too and Jermain is playing very, very well at the moment.

"So, I guess I have got a decision to make, haven't I? I suppose it's now between Rafa and Jermain over who plays in the team."

O RLY?

Had never considered that vdv and defoe play the same position tbh

with adebayor, they kind of do though.

arry otm in his response, tho. flippant but what else do you say to someone who says 'i don't like tracking back'

I see this thread has reverted to being a Tottenham Hotspurs thread

is it ever not a spurs thread tbh?

when we're not in the epl i guess????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

so what do you guys think about newcastle?

got rid of barton
ba is p much the best striker not named aguero
coloccini and jonas have long stopped being crap