DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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What's he interested in then?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/051214/memi06.htm

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:58 (fourteen years ago)

Oh wait that was years ago...

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:58 (fourteen years ago)

This is the latest one...

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/100927/cameron_rt-hon-david.htm

Name of donor: News International Supply Company Ltd

Address of donor: 1 Virginia Street, London E98 1XY

Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Costs incurred from hosting the Leader of the Opposition’s Combat Stress Summit at the House of Commons; total £1241.55 remitted directly to the relevant House of Commons Departments.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:01 (fourteen years ago)

Cameron isn't that interested in winning the next election. If anyone pays attention to him then anaemic growth will stall as money gets destroyed in mass debt repayment, whacking growth just as the cuts bite.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:52 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eh?

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:03 (fourteen years ago)

that reminds me of deathdrone's poker logic tbh

caek, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:03 (fourteen years ago)

It's a funny Tory who's not interested in winning an election

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:05 (fourteen years ago)

Apparently the government have nixxed proposals to put some kind of financial education on the National Curriculum?

this has been such a bugbear of mine over the three conferences

lex pretend, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:10 (fourteen years ago)

Of course Cameron is interested in winning the election, or at least not losing it. He may be increasingly disinterested in being popular, but being unpopular is different to losing elections.

That they're not going to get anywhere near eliminating the deficit in this parliament must surely be the elephant in the room at the conference. They've over-promised.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:14 (fourteen years ago)

Looks like he could make a lot more money by losing office.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:18 (fourteen years ago)

Given that their defect reduction plan relies on growth, discouraging consumer spending wouldn't be something I'd put at the top of the Agenda. Unless of course, now they've seen they can't get close to eliminating the deficit they think they can still use it whack labour with at the next election or they see a 10 year cost cutting plan as the only way to reconfigure Britain as a low tax, small public sector nightmare.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 10:25 (fourteen years ago)

see a 10 year cost cutting plan as the only way to reconfigure Britain as a low tax, small public sector nightmare

Been the plan all along though hasn't it? The deficit has just let them get away with it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:01 (fourteen years ago)

'The prime minister has re-written the part of his conference speech which appeared to call on households to pay off their credit card and store card bills. His aides insist that this was due to "sloppy drafting" and the briefing-out of an unfinished speech. Mr Cameron will now say that: "The only way out of a debt crisis is to deal with your debts. That's why households - all of us - are paying off the credit card and store card bills." '

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

Primal Scream express disgust at Theresa May's use of their hit Rocks

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)

Why would she do such a thing? First the feckin' cat and now this!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 11:57 (fourteen years ago)

Prsumably the verses were edited out.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 12:01 (fourteen years ago)

His aides insist that this was due to "sloppy drafting", and the briefing-out of an unfinished speech and their having listened to radio four this morning which said people were already doing it.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

Well, that was underwhelming.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:31 (fourteen years ago)

Why do the tories hate health and safety so much?

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

Was that the least triumphalist conference speech ever?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:41 (fourteen years ago)

Why do the tories hate health and safety so much?

Costs businesses money innit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

another reason is it's one of the few effective tools that unions still have to improve working conditions - stress is a health and safety issue, so it gives a legal framework to challenge workload issues, bullying etc.

joe, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, bureaucracy and red tape and all that. Tho Tory governments have been no less prone to bureaucracy and red tape than Labour ones.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

'great british spirit' thing is like someone telling you to be resilient while they punch you in the head

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

'Sit still and grit your teeth while we fuck you over'. Only, after the Blitz the nation immediately demanded socialised government.

So, idk, maybe they're reviving the hoary ghost of John Bull and mutton-chop whiskers all round.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 6 October 2011 06:27 (fourteen years ago)

Funny, I read the last page of the churchill war memoir, it was basically "but we lost the election, so I went "you know what? Fuck the lot of yez" and I went home. The end."

Mark G, Thursday, 6 October 2011 08:31 (fourteen years ago)

The Daily Telegraph says Werritty was paid to work as Fox's parliamentary researcher.

The Independent says that Werritty personally organised a controversial visit by Fox to Sri Lanka.

The Daily Mail says Werritty tried to cover up his role in the controversial meeting Fox attended in Dubai.

The Times says Werritty was seen as the "go-to guy" for defence lobbyists.

The Sun says Liam Fox ignored warnings about his relationship with Adam Werritty.

It's almost like someone is briefing the newspapers against Liam Fox.

James Mitchell, Monday, 10 October 2011 08:55 (fourteen years ago)

"Let's just establish, first of all, what hasn't happened. Nothing illegal has happened. Dr Fox has made no commercial gain from this. There have been no breaches of national security and Dr Fox has actually apologised for the much smaller matters for which he was at fault. Frankly, there's quite a lot of insinuation, innuendo and smear involved in many of these allegations as reported. The adviser, as such, wasn't present in any of the official meetings and wasn't present when any national security issues were discussed. Dr Fox has apologised, as we know, for any apparent blurring between his professional responsibilities and his personal friendships and that should cover the matter."
...says Greg Hands, the personal private secretary to George Osborne.

James Mitchell, Monday, 10 October 2011 09:02 (fourteen years ago)

I'm sure they've been looking for an excuse to hang Fox out to dry for a while now, he's been leaking his own complaints to the press and generally working against Cameron for a year or so.

That said, inviting your mate along to MINISTRY OF DEFENCE meetings = really not clever, but I'm sure Tory ministers have done dodgier shit in their time and will do so throughout this Parliament as well.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 October 2011 09:05 (fourteen years ago)

Unless Fox has been getting some kind of kickback we don't know about yet obviously.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 October 2011 09:08 (fourteen years ago)

i have a little bit of sympathy for the 'being unable to control your best mate who is being a self-promoting dick' aspect of the Fox story - but maybe that's because everything to do with the MoD and the defence industry fills me with so much ethical horror i can't remember how morals are supposed to work any more.

also, that deleted Chris Huhne tweet people were alluding to all over twitter yesterday, explained: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15233811

octavio paz de la huerta (c sharp major), Monday, 10 October 2011 09:21 (fourteen years ago)

i have a little bit of sympathy for the 'being unable to control your best mate who is being a self-promoting dick' aspect of the Fox story - but maybe that's because everything to do with the MoD and the defence industry fills me with so much ethical horror i can't remember how morals are supposed to work any more.

idk. i went into my friend's studios a couple of days ago & was aware that if some studio-person found me there and i was all, oh no!, it's cool!, i'm here with my friend!, it would still probably not be okay because they'd have no reason to trade on my friend's say so. i think if you are like ... the defence secretary you should be able to tell your friend "you can't come to work with me today!"

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 10 October 2011 09:35 (fourteen years ago)

also, it would be nice to have politicians who did not so blatantly think themselves above the rules.

octavio paz de la huerta (c sharp major), Monday, 10 October 2011 09:44 (fourteen years ago)

The allegations are hugely damaging at face value. There does seem to have been an unnecessary undercurrent of innuendo to some of the reporting, though.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 10 October 2011 09:46 (fourteen years ago)

I've heard "I have done nothing wrong" a million times, and "I have done nothing illegal" precisely never.

Mark G, Monday, 10 October 2011 09:46 (fourteen years ago)

Top Telegraph reader comments on Boris's article saying how hard it is to fly into London:

Well that's one way of looking at it...if you want to stay in denial.

Reality is Chinese, the Japanese and the remaining few yanks who can afford holidays have expressed their reluctance to continue visiting England as tourists, if they have to land in one of the London airports, not because of inadequate slots, but because they don't like the 'multicultural' hellhole that is now London experience.

When they come to England, they come to see ENGLAND, its ENGLISH heritage and culture and hear ENGLISH. Fact. This is on record as you well know.

Cut taxes. Stop immigration. Get out of the EU.

We won't need an extra airport anymore.

Here's a clue Boris. Stop letting people into the country.

You know those people that suddenly now need to be housed and use up all available ground space. The developers struggling to build to meet demand and concreting over as much of this lovely country as they can.

There are plenty of unused airport runways in this country that could be adapted and used. But they aren't. Why not? because they aren't near enough to London!

James Mitchell, Monday, 10 October 2011 10:01 (fourteen years ago)

Oh shit yeah what this country needs right now less of is demand for work, re that last comment.

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:05 (fourteen years ago)

glad i can come to ilx for my newspaper website comment needs.

caek, Monday, 10 October 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

http://georgeosbornelookingevil.tumblr.com/

owenf, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

s/b "lokingstupid" tho, since he does and is

mark s, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

Dunno about the other 850,000 thousand. Fuck them, I guess:

Ministers are preparing for youth unemployment to go over 1 million today and will defend themselves by launching sector-based work academies across the UK designed to give people better access to work experience.

[...]

The Department for Work and Pensions claims that there are currently over 90,000 vacancies in retail, over 44,000 in hospitality and 11,000 vacancies in construction

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/12/youth-unemployment-1m-work-academies

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 07:48 (fourteen years ago)

lol 90k vacancies in retail coming up to christmas? wonder if they will be sustainable careers for the masses?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 08:48 (fourteen years ago)

.. to say nothing of the Corporate Lunch Scene...(xposT)

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 08:49 (fourteen years ago)

The defence secretary has also denied claims that Conservative officials lied about a break-in at his London home last year, following claims in the Sun that they had said Mr Fox was alone at the time - when in fact another man stayed in the flat overnight.

Haha this "break-in" chimes with the story I've heard about the time Fox hired a [CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT] who found out who he was and proceeded to steal his wallet and some of his stuff, knowing he couldn't tell the full story.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 09:22 (fourteen years ago)

would really love it if the media could drop the "ooh it seems he might be a gay" innuendo and focus instead on the actual stupidity/illegality/corruption of fox's behaviour.

Joe Romeo, Concerned New Yorker (stevie), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 09:38 (fourteen years ago)

Something a bit off about a 48 yesr-old hiring a 16 year-old [CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT].

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 10:43 (fourteen years ago)

would really love it if the media could drop the "ooh it seems he might be a gay" innuendo and focus instead on the actual stupidity/illegality/corruption of fox's behaviour.

The media is much more interested in a possible gay sex scandal than ministerial responsibility. One sells and the other is ho-hum-those-politicians-at-it-again.

The defence secretary added that the friend in question was not Werritty, his former flatmate who met him on overseas trips 18 times in 16 months. Jesme Baird, his wife, had been stranded in Hong Kong due to the Icelandic volcano ash cloud, he said.

parasitical brain-weevil (onimo), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, everybody's haired about the baird...

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

everybody's heared about the the beard you mean

conrad, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:46 (fourteen years ago)

Everybody's hard about the http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/27542_146842675344485_8260_q.jpg

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:54 (fourteen years ago)


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