Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

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good to hear obama's "still working" on his views, lol

he makes it sound so complicated

He'll have plenty of time to work out his views when 2012, blah, et al.

et alfred

yes

Not about gay marriage, but still about "redefining" marriage: Under Luna's bill, couples would sign a marriage contract that would last two years. Once that term was over, the couple would have the option to renew. The contract would specify if property is owned by both spouses or separately. It would also state who would get custody of the children, if any, and how benefits would be distributed.

What would be the benefit of this over a pre-nup? I like some things about this idea - "Until death" is a hard concept to grasp, but two years is a reasonable expectation. And anything that upsets the Catholic Church can't be all bad.

I bet Bam will be a really liberal ex-president.

And anything that upsets the Catholic Church can't be all bad

Like the gap between the wealthy and the poor?

The Catholic Church is upset by the gap between the wealthy and the poor? Maybe some liberation theologists who are not in the Church's good graces, but overall they're only helping keep life miserable for the poor.

I bet Bam will be a really liberal ex-president.

Can't wait until his speaking engagements get everyone you like to hang around nostalgic for when he was in office, giving you another opportunity to tell everyone you encounter why they are idiots.

Not idiots, just impractical and ineffectual.

Who wrote this?

"Lowering the level of protection accorded to the rights of workers, or abandoning mechanisms of wealth redistribution in order to increase the country's international competitiveness, hinder the achievement of lasting development."

I worked for an organization whose mission it was to organize religious people for worker justice, and we had a strong Catholic presence, but they got nervous when we got near ENDA, so the organization stays away from LGBT employment rights. Pretend those don't exist b/c you don't want to upset your source of revenue.

xp

well, just like good Democrats.

(like Democrats w/ unions these days, to be more precise)

OK, so you are going to respond with your canned Morbisms instead of saying anything of substance.

And also focus on one throw-away quip as the target of your bullshit.

go trash someone on Facebook again.

btw, I think liberals who continue to vote for corporatist Democrats are closer to crazy than idiotic.

Oh, snap? You seem to love to call me out for calling you a joyless shithead on Facebook, but it's not some kind of secret. Everyone already knew that about you. Even your relative who said the same thing in a more polite way.

Anwyay, I do wish you would killfile me.

christ guys, get a room

You're right.

Morbs, let's get a room.

Bring me a rusty blade and plenty of rye bread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=gP61wDGAmXA

i feel so bad for the clerks but this made me a lil teary

Larry Kramer mad.

I hate to say "Old man yells at life" but there ya go. (And I love Larry Kramer and all.)

LK OTM, esp about HRC.

...and BHO

DOA

I think righteous rage has kept Kramer alive this long, and it's good for the rest of us. Especially when a pittance of social rights are mistaken for a bumper crop.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!

had no idea - happy bday!

lol, reviving this thread is great

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AL

hbd, but I'm not the marryin' kind no matter what you say.

Let's pretend we're divorced. HB!

Happy Birthday!

I love you all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6GM1pxGVnQ

Happy birthday, Alfred!

happy birthday, lord sotosyn!

Feliz cumpleaños!

This amicus brief in the Prop 8 appeal is the epitome of 0_o.
http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/01/prop-8-trial-new-mystery-brief-filed-in-support-of-defendant-intervenors/

The brief is on the importance of the marital presumption of paternity. A good sample quote from the brief from comments

‎[A whole bunch of really old dudes all] "recognized that female fidelity was the only way to ensure the legitimacy of progeny and that a husband’s control over his wife’s body was the only means of ensuring paternity"

Besides being ridiculous, the brief was way overlong, filed very late, and without the consent of the plaintiffs.

http://towleroad.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c730253ef0168e5049e61970c-pi

Marriage to Alfred is a #1 priority for many gays.

not surprising to see free speech so low; gays are used to paying boutique prices for everything.

Gays generally as pro-censorship as anyone.

especially when straights are around

DOMA and same-sex marriage are different how...?

Love "political developments affecting the LGBT community."

But I would've voted for "political developments affecting the GLBT community."

what about the BLT community

"Tasty developments affecting the ..."

9-grain bread of course