Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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Yeah, but now the police are going to find this nice Volvo wagon registered to ... someone ... abandoned in a hospital parking lot (which, I assume, is being videotaped), with an IED stuffed in it. Right? Right?

Nah, probably not.

The ricin thing seems far fetched, but not as far fetched about Gus not knowing about it. Surely his confirmation of Jesse's trust came when Jesse didn't poison him, because if Jesse had poisoned and killed him then to would have proven himself totally untrustworthy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:24 (fourteen years ago)

This episode was weird and kind of a letdown. We don't really know what happened to the kid, surely the whole thing with ricin is that a tiny amount kills you straight away? But something *has* happened to the cigarette. Whole thing is clumsy; hope it makes more sense in the next ep.
I can buy Gus knowing about the ricin somehow, I guess.
The Jesse/Walt dialogue was off, too - Walt seemed to be saying the exact type of stuff in the exact way that sounded like he had actually done it and was 'cleverly' manipulating Jesse to think otherwise (I don't actually think this, it just had those kind of signifiers). Communication of relatively important facts between the two of them is almost reaching "Lost" levels.

Presumably Skyler doesn't know about Ted yet.

kinder, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:45 (fourteen years ago)

takes several days to die from ricin poisoning, pretty miserable death iirc

balls, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:50 (fourteen years ago)

The kid doesn't have ricin poisoning. It's a red herring. Come on.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:02 (fourteen years ago)

It's not even a red herring. Jesse's so high strung he'll believe anything. Plus, per the show's own science explanation, doesn't ricin give the victim heart attack symptoms a couple of days later? Kid got flu symptoms within hours of the alleged dose.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)

Really thought Skyler was gonna get picked off when she was having a cigarette outside.

I DIED, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:08 (fourteen years ago)

appreciate you all analyzing the ep all critical like BUT GDAMN IT I JUST WANTED GUS TO DIE SO BAD

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

like my heart was seriously beating hard

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

EXPLODE HIM

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

Also Gus's ~premonition~ is not so far fetched. Shit's squirrelly already, Jesse starts acting up, and then he very specifically mentions poison. Recall Gus's last poison-related situation. It's definitely enough to make an extremely tense drug kingpin act more cautious than usual.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:18 (fourteen years ago)

yeah jesse blew it for sure, then gus' intuition kicked in

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:21 (fourteen years ago)

Jesse should have said it was a chili powder overdose.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:24 (fourteen years ago)

jesse shouldve just stuck w/'the kid is sick'

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

I definitely think Walt poisoned the kid via Saul's goons.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

it occurred to me, tho not via the goon stealing the cigarette, unless it turns out he was a magician or pick pocket, but i dont think walt would stoop that low, or would he

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:27 (fourteen years ago)

also it is interesting that the kid isnt displaying the symptoms as walt described them, spose walt couldve given him something that wasnt gonna kill him just to reel jesse in

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:28 (fourteen years ago)

dude, saul's "a team" couldn't take candy from a kid

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:32 (fourteen years ago)

but maybe just maybe they could give candy (poison) to a kid

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:33 (fourteen years ago)

ಠ_ಠ

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:34 (fourteen years ago)

btw sauls ateam is a hilarious concept

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:35 (fourteen years ago)

Saul's perceived level of organization dropped a lot of notches when it was revealed that Mike was a free agent who just did work for him in his free time.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:41 (fourteen years ago)

feel like that was a bit of a fudge by the show turning mike into gus' main dood just cause they liked him

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:46 (fourteen years ago)

yeah the mike reveal in the finale should be something. sure jesse can shoot gus? but gus and mike? and then of course you just hear the shots and 'directed by vince gilligan' pops up. boy o boy that is gonna be something.

balls, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

I think Tyrus took the cigarette (in fact I think he's the only person who could have taken the cigarette). I don't have the faintest idea who (if anyone) poisoned "Brock", but I don't think that Saul or his A-team would have gone along or helped with it even Walt would have had the stomach for it in the first place (which would really be far far far out of character for him.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:50 (fourteen years ago)

ha yeah id like to see walt trying to sell saul on that one

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 03:56 (fourteen years ago)

the guy who plays tyrus was pretty incredible in his stint on the shield and has been generally underused here so would not be surprised if they have larger things in store for him. or he could die next episode.

balls, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

i liked when he wouldnt pass jesse the phone, he h8s those dudes so bad

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 04:02 (fourteen years ago)

yeah the 'does the laundry have to be dirty?!!!' '...no' exchange is my fave non-badass gus moment this season.

balls, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 04:04 (fourteen years ago)

Victor didn't seem to fond of them either.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 04:05 (fourteen years ago)

don't think anyone really has a prob with gus's premo thinking jesus that's not realistic come on

turns out skylar is spelled skylar and not spelled skyler btw :O

conrad, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 04:17 (fourteen years ago)

don't think anyone really has a prob with gus's premo thinking jesus that's not realistic come on
― conrad, Tuesday, October 4, 2011 4:17 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ctrl+F "psychic"

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

Ctrl+F "don't think anyone really has a prob with gus's premo"

conrad, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 05:52 (fourteen years ago)

appreciate you all analyzing the ep all critical like BUT GDAMN IT I JUST WANTED GUS TO DIE SO BAD

Yeah me too, I'm getting bored of things going wrong for Walt, I want a big successful bloodbath, like the good old days.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 06:18 (fourteen years ago)

The poisoning thing very confusing. They telegraph that it's Gus - "There will be an appropriate response" - and when you hear the kid's been poisoned it feels like just another example of a mafioso hurting someone's family as leverage. But then it all goes sideways.

How long before all the purple in Hank and Marie's house starts doing lasting damage to somebody's eyesight?

Speaking of eyesight I was impressed that the DEA sniper wasn't wearing any glasses. I guess if you're a pro sniper you just spring for the LASIK.

I wonder if this really is the last time Walt sees his family. It would be fitting, especially after Walt's speech to Jr. about how "this isn't how I want you to remember me".

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:38 (fourteen years ago)

I doubt it

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:49 (fourteen years ago)

Either Gus is very definitely 10 steps ahead of everyone or we're supposed to think that Gus is very definitely 10 steps ahead of everyone.

Also, I think Gus saw Walt on top of the building and pretended not to, because he's exactly mechanical enough to get away with that sort of thing.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:51 (fourteen years ago)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/ICHIBAN2k6/methshow.jpg

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:54 (fourteen years ago)

skylar could use some meth

conrad, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:56 (fourteen years ago)

I thought this was great and I don't give a shit about the plausability of a ricin cigarette. At some point you just have to accept that Breaking Bad is meant as lurid tragedy and not social realism.

I actually thought the ramping up of tension throughout this episode was really well done. Just because they haven't moved in on Hank and Walt's family yet doesn't mean they're not going to, but if they went in all guns blazing at the start of the ep then where would you go from there?

I suspect Walt has called this one correctly and Gus is manipulating Jesse - "there will be an appropriate response" etc. Every time you see Gus's faux-Angelic face like that scene in the chapel you know it's bullshit.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

I sort of wonder what, if any, payoff the laundry search will have. They spent a lot of time setting that up and showing it happening. Hank cajoling Gomie, Gomie pulling a fast one with the manager (which was great by the way; I was actually rooting for Gomie to pull it off)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:54 (fourteen years ago)

seemed like it was hank's partner covering his ass and satisfying hank's curiosity and therefore an end to suspicion of the laundry for now except maybe for hank because he is so tenacious and perceptive (although I'm starting to think he really has no clue about walt's involvement) but they're not going to go back there now unless some new clue arises and hank's surely not gonna *spot* something in one of the photos

conrad, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:02 (fourteen years ago)

yeah thats what i was thinking, like theres at least one photo of where they enter the lab

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:17 (fourteen years ago)

hank's surely not gonna *spot* something in one of the photos

O RLY

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:19 (fourteen years ago)

that would be dumb but yeah I guess

conrad, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

Hank's totally going to spot something. When Gomez paused before taking that one picture, before the camera panned down? If Hank has made it this far, Hank will notice an exhaust vent to/from "nowhere," for sure.

Tyrus is def. the only character who's been painted as a big asshole from day one, with no nuance. Gives a show about moral ambiguity a convenient fall guy for stuff.

LOL at Jesse invoking the same "help, this dangerous-looking/black stranger is bothering me!" line, just like Walt did.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

I find it insane that they haven't put the entire lab into boxes already and shipped it somewhere else. The entire jig would be up if Gomie pulled the wrong handle.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:21 (fourteen years ago)

And it's not even like this is the first time the DEA has been sniffing around!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

they prob think theyre more likely to be spotted moving it out than just staying put, and they cant stop cooking or gus' empire crumbles

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:25 (fourteen years ago)

I thought the way it sort of papered over walt screaming and laughing maniacally in the crawl space and started with him all rational and skylar concerned felt weird. I can see why they did it but it was a bit of a jump. I know they did a "some time passes" breaking bad swish, but still.

It's not that the ricin thing is implausible, which it is, nobody is that concerned with realism. It's just kind of a cheap shot.

Jesse's relationship with this kid has barely been explored for starters.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)

Hey, you know that feeling when you finally find somebody to do two-player with you

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 12:32 (fourteen years ago)


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