Those loving shots of nude women doing yoga, the security guard and his terrible Barbara Stanwyck investigation, Gould's performance -- none of this is sour!
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
Plus, it's not like the Chandler material wasn't itself sentimental.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
long goodbye's at least as cornball sweet and sour as manhattan. it's an incredibly better movie obv - altman vs allen isn't much of a contest - but the wounded rejected romantic dumb heart at the core of every grouchy cynic is laid bare there as much as in manhattan or crimes and misdemeanors (the lesser allen storyline obv), most of the time altman's cynicism is more jovial misanthrope (or at least misogynist) but the long goodbye definitely has a romantic streak.
― balls, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
I know a cynic is an aggrieved sentimentalist, but I don't see cynicism in TLG, or even misanthropy, which is more obvious in the mid and late seventies movies.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
popeye sentimentalizes sourness also, but whatever romanticism is there is due to nilsson.
― balls, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
and such small portions!
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
wow, i read altman v. differently than you do. i see his films as disappointed humanism, maybe a touch sarcastic. but sour? i think altman's winking at his audience all the time, and the 'sourness' is always bracketed by a heavy dose of absurdity.
(except brewster mccloud, which might actually be sour, but that's only b/c i don't understand it at all)
― remy bean, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
agree with remy here re: Altman
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
weird that I have never noticed the complete lack of score/sdtk/music in this movie before.
amazing how breezily this movie blows by, the scenes are all really short but so perfectly sequenced
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
Interiors doesn't have much music either (someone plays the piano?). He only got the swing/jazz jukebox going w/ Manhattan.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
all the good meetings are taken
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 23 June 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
i'd somehow never noticed that when alvy goes over to kill the spider the photos of him w/ the lobster are framed on the wall.
Gordon Willis rocks
http://www.filmforum.org/images/sliders/AnnieHall702.jpg
― piscesx, Saturday, 23 June 2012 05:27 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't read through this thread, but I can't even believe this is a question.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Saturday, 23 June 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link
I can't believe Face to Face isn't available on DVD
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 June 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
Face To Face came out on DVD (but not BluRay) in the states last year from Olive Films.
― Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 June 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
will be esp revelatory to New Yorkers of a certain age -- the filming locations, in two parts:
http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=5704
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
thats awesome
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
spent a fair amout of time in those vanished movie theatres... including an Allen marathon in the New Yorker circa 1979-80.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
god I loved the Thalia...we used to cut class at Columbia and go for all day one price movie marathons, and you could smoke in the back! Bliss....
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
I remember seeing a double bill of Head and Skidoo there, also a Reagan twofer of The Killers and Hellcats of the Navy.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
9-year-old Alvy to doctor: “The universe is everything, and if it’s expanding, someday it will break apart and that would be the end of everything.”Mom: “What is that your business?”For me, the first hour of “Annie Hall” is the funniest stuff I’ve ever seen in a film. The movie line scene slays me every time, maybe because that’s how I feel whenever people pontificate loudly so everyone can hear them. Hannah’s another favorite. My favorite Woody jokes are the ones that reduce a hugely profound topic to a cheap punch line:1) Mickey’s father, during a discussion on the existence of God: “How the hell do I know why there were Nazis? I don't know how the can opener works!”2) Mickey: “And Nietzsche, with his theory of eternal recurrence. He said that the life we lived, we’re gonna live over again the exact same way for eternity. Great. That means I’ll have to sit through the Ice Capades again.”
― Jazzbo, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
he had a similar line in his early humor prose: "Not only is there no God, but try finding a plumber on Tuesdays."
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
9-year-old Alvy to doctor: “The universe is everything, and if it’s expanding, someday it will break apart and that would be the end of everything.”Mom: “What is that your business?”
I showed this scene, once a year on Woody's birthday, to grade 6 classes for a decade. (Going right up to my favorite part--"He won't do his homework"/"What's the point?"--which I sincerely believed at least some of the kids would get.) I don't recall more than a couple of kids laughing. I'd then try to explain the absurdity of the scene. Still nothing. I finally gave up and switched to a YouTube clip of the subway scene in Bananas last year.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
you sre trying to turn pubescents into 40-year-old analysands, i'm convinced
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
This is like the ultimate date movie.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
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sighhhh
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
I finally gave up and switched to a YouTube clip of the subway scene in Bananas last year.
You showed a scene of an old woman reading WA's copy of Orgasm to 6th graders?
― Eric H., Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
otoh, the Thalia's floor sloped upward toward the screen.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
You sent me scurrying back to the clip to check--that shot's right at the end, so it was easy to stop the clip well before that. (xpost)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/u5aMAoEbFl0/hqdefault.jpg
― aerosmith suck because their corporate rock that sucks (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
My friend played little Alvy Singer, and his brother played the kid in Stardust Memories!
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
whoa!
i was gonna say your friend's brother is seth green but that was radio days.
still that's hella cool.
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, Jon did Annie Hall and his brother Robert was in Stardust Memories...great guys.
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
one of the Bad News Bears played Woodykid in Love & Death
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
oh man, i loved Bad News Bears....
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/04/annie-hall-40th-anniversary-woody-allen-carol-kane-marshall-brickman
If I'm reading this right Allen ditched an hour of filmed material. I'm sure he did the right thing for the movie but jeez I bet those offcuts are better than anything he's done in the past few years.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
Anhedonia: All the Trims
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link
The only remnants of these high-concept deleted scenes are images preserved on lobby cards that were produced at the time to be displayed in movie theaters. One was a basketball game between the New York Knicks and history’s great philosophers, including Kierkegaard and Nietzsche.
https://breadcity.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/annie-hall-basketball.jpg
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link
lolz
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link
screenplay draft (which at a skim seemed full of extra unused stuff) and tons more here!
https://cinephiliabeyond.org/annie-hall-one-last-beautiful-american-films-pre-blockbuster-era/
― piscesx, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
i wonder if he'd seen this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6nI1v7mwwA
― piscesx, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link
(from the above Cinephilia piece)
https://cinephiliabeyond.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/5.jpg
― piscesx, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link
I'll be at a 25-year dinner tonight that my board puts on every year. But the whole time I'll be thinking about the Raptors-Warriors game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxahqTnafM8
― clemenza, Thursday, 29 November 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/world/universe-expanding-faster-scn/index.html
More unfinished homework.
http://wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/annie-hall-3.jpg
― clemenza, Friday, 26 April 2019 00:03 (five years ago) link
adding the universe to "sun, milk, red meat, college"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 April 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link
I did not know this
Woody Allen's Annie Hall includes a scene in which Alvy (Allen) and Annie (Diane Keaton) are observing passersby in the park. Alvy comments, "Oh, there's the winner of the Truman Capote Look-Alike Contest". The passerby is actually Truman Capote (who appeared in the film uncredited).
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
i've read that before, was skeptical
pre-stardom Sigourney Weaver is in it (no lines)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link
I'm sure I'll get grief for playing anything having to do with Woody Allen in a school setting, but I would always play the expanding-universe scene for students whenever that subject came up (they hardly ever laughed). I got back from a planning today, and the grade 7 class I was in for was finishing up with their language teacher, talking about a poem having to do with large spiders. So of course I thought of the spider scene in Annie Hall.
Didn't have time to check it, but I thought: "Any language?" (pretty sure not); "Any drugs?" (possibly, I think Diane Keaton lights up a joint--I can skip past that); "Anything sexual" (don't think so). All I could think of were two jokes: the spider as big as a Buick, and the one where Allen asks Keaton if she wants him to rehabilitate the spider. Seemed innocuous enough, and students don't know Woody Allen from Toy Story Woody. So I played it. I was right on those three questions, but halfway through he finds Keaton's black soap and makes a minstrel joke.
Jesus...This is the second time this has happened to me in a year (the other a Culture Club video). I will eventually get it through my thick skull not to play anything older than five or ten years unless you check it first.
― clemenza, Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link