http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Mexico+uncovers+tunnel+beneath+border/5251295/story.html
has this been discussed yet or are we now way past ever talking about the actual thread topic on this thread again
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
that article is beneath my dignity
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man I want to post a zing here so bad (NB actually not one at cream's expense).
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
wait, Google claimed that article went up an hour ago but the byline is Aug 13
what happened, I am confused
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
'U.S. officials said in June that more than 150 secret tunnels for smuggling people and drugs into the United States have been found since 1990.'
wonder how many there are in all
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
in the face of widespread tunneling, I am not sure exactly what the "BUILD A BIGGER WALL" ppl think they will be achieving
― the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
the thing abt the war on drugs in general and like many other wars is that the enemy will always be more dedicated and creative than we are, because its a bigger deal to them
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
But you see the wall will also go down a hundred miles too!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjKBjM1ngw
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65sGnwf5bk
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
Not sure if this will reach you guys as a full article or in part, but today's WSJ has a lengthy piece on the repercussions of targeting bloggers.
― per metal injection (Eazy), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
just google it then click through
― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
wonder how many tunnels there are in total... ALIEN ANT FARM!
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jlucr_XJ30&feature=related
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Those girls may have gotten to the top, but they didn't swing over and get down to the bottom again. No border crossing, no credibility.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 October 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
Real quick: icey p much otm about what I was saying: I really don't have time to go into what it was that led me to misrepresent icey"s analysis so badly but def one reason was me trying to be clever and another was that I was rushing to go to work; I wish I wouldve left that whole thing off. LL otm about it being floppant, though more in the vein of flippantly dismissing the nuances in icey's take rather tham about the situation. But it still sounded way bad and LL being my friend, I believe her 'nonono' was more to soften the blow of the dawning realization that I justed outed myself as a crass moron rather than condoning that phrase as a valid take on anything icey said.
Anyways I hope don't re-derail this thread. I just wanted to apologize to the both of you aned to everybody. Have a good night!
― revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
no harm done -- icey is not incorrect in finding me annoying, and the only thing that kinda stung genuinely was when he said that people were being "nice" to mei sent him a webmail with an olive branch in itwe're all good afaic
anyway the song i posted is pretty good and it is about antswhat an exhausting day
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
That icey jab was off tm and I resent the suggestion that I have been nice to anyone, at all, ever. Suggest wrong.
― Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
floppant, son
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man is there ever a movie in this
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
phew, every time I see this thread pop up in bookmarks, my stomach sinks like a pit
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 06:56 (twelve years ago) link
"Mexican" hero-een Music
― buzza, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
heard this on the radio yesterday about veracruzmata-zetas are eithera) vigilantes sick of relying on govt/military to protect themb) sinaloan cartel members getting mad and getting evenc) something elsed) who knowse) wtf at dumping *more* bodies in the street
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/26/141727973/drug-violence-swamps-a-once-peaceful-mexican-city
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 October 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
Matching bottles of mineral water are lined up in front of each of them.
― pplains, Thursday, 27 October 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
that part was notable, wasn't it
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
i also liked the lengthy description of what the seafood woman sold
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
On the eve of a convention for Mexican prosecutors
Pretty audacious idea in itself.
― your way better (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
I keep reading their name as Meta-Zetas, which in terms of "violent gang" is kind of accurate.
― your way better (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Online-hackers-threaten-to-expose-cartel-secrets-2242068.php
lol? :\
― dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
Wow.
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently a politician's hacked website:
http://gustavorosario.com/
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://sdpnoticias.com/nota/216899/Anonymous_hackea_sitio_de_presunto_funcionario_involucrado_con_el_narco
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
all i'm seeing here is a rash of (coverage of) vigilante efforts in the wake of years of government and military booberydoes anyone who studies this conflict think this is going to amount to anything? (serious q)
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Saturday, 29 October 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
apparently they did ithttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/05/us-mexico-drugs-hackers-idUSTRE7A408C20111105
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
hm, that is a somewhat misleading post -- "they" = zetas, "did it" = released hostage and threatened to kill 10 people for every name released, should any names ever be released
In a post written in Spanish on the group's Latin American blog, the members said they had called off the action after the Zetas met a demand to release a kidnapped group member, and that: "We can say that, while bruised, he is alive and well."The hacker group said the person was freed with a note warning that if information were released, the cartel would make the kidnapped member's family suffer, and kill 10 people for each exposed name.Anonymous members previously threatened by video to release names and addresses of taxi drivers, journalists and police officers who they said acted as "loyal servants" to the cartel to see if that would prompt arrests.They said they were "fed up" with the cartel's actions, particularly the alleged kidnapping. For much of the week, people claiming to be Anonymous members have gone back and forth saying the hacker action was canceled or would go ahead.Anonymous, a loosely knit group that has attacked financial and government websites around the world, had in September claimed responsibility for orchestrating the shutdown of several Mexican government ministries, but did not give a reason for that action.Barrett Brown, a Texas hacker who posted details about the planned action, said via his Twitter account: "I will be continuing the fight against the cartels."Brown said via a post on Pastebin he would avoid revealing names that would trigger the ire of the Zetas but still intended to send information to the German newspaper Der Spiegel for confirmation."In the meanwhile, I will be going after other cartels with the assistance of those who have come forward with new information and offers of assistance," he said.
The hacker group said the person was freed with a note warning that if information were released, the cartel would make the kidnapped member's family suffer, and kill 10 people for each exposed name.
Anonymous members previously threatened by video to release names and addresses of taxi drivers, journalists and police officers who they said acted as "loyal servants" to the cartel to see if that would prompt arrests.
They said they were "fed up" with the cartel's actions, particularly the alleged kidnapping. For much of the week, people claiming to be Anonymous members have gone back and forth saying the hacker action was canceled or would go ahead.
Anonymous, a loosely knit group that has attacked financial and government websites around the world, had in September claimed responsibility for orchestrating the shutdown of several Mexican government ministries, but did not give a reason for that action.
Barrett Brown, a Texas hacker who posted details about the planned action, said via his Twitter account: "I will be continuing the fight against the cartels."
Brown said via a post on Pastebin he would avoid revealing names that would trigger the ire of the Zetas but still intended to send information to the German newspaper Der Spiegel for confirmation.
"In the meanwhile, I will be going after other cartels with the assistance of those who have come forward with new information and offers of assistance," he said.
― Yasmine Teeth (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
my students went from comatose to talking over each other when we started talking about this yesterday btw.
Talking about the Anonymous threat or the whole situation?
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
seems increasingly likely that the entire anonymous story was bullshit from the start
― max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
how you mean?
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
i mean has any single thing that barrett brown said been corroborated by any other person, reputable or not?
its like when your friend is all "oh my canadian girlfriend isnt visiting anymore, we broke up"
― max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
like remember when anonymous had 40,000 emails from news corp/the sun? what happened to those?
Wasn't it LulzSec who had them, and did they get pinched?
― your way better (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah sorry it was "lulzsec." iirc only some of them got arrested, there were wild claims of the emails being hosted on a server in china, still no word
― max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Gang sends message with blogger beheading
― Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 November 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/12/world/americas/top-mexican-official-among-8-dead-in-helicopter-crash.html?pagewanted=all
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 12 November 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/us/us-mexico-tunnel-leads-to-tons-of-marijuana.html
am I bad for thinking that they should have burned the marijuana in the tunnel and made the world's most awesome hotbox
― dayo, Thursday, 17 November 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
Meanwhile, in Chicago... (just posting this in case it escaped anyone's eyes last week)
http://www.fbi.gov/chicago/press-releases/2012/latin-kings-nationwide-leader-augustin-zambrano-sentenced-to-60-years-in-prison-for-rico-conspiracy-and-related-gang-crimes
CHICAGO—The highest-ranking leader nationwide of the Latin Kings street gang was sentenced today to 60 years in federal prison, the statutory maximum, after being convicted at trial last April of racketeering conspiracy (RICO) and related charges involving narcotics trafficking and violence that plagued numerous neighborhoods on the city’s north, south and west sides. The defendant, Augustin Zambrano, 51, a “Corona” of the Almighty Latin King Nation, who was responsible for overseeing the illegal activities of all factions of the powerful street gang with some 10,000 members in Illinois alone, has been in federal custody since 2009 and must serve at least 85 percent of his sentence.
― La Lechera, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Does anyone have any thoughts about this rash of prison breaks? Things are looking extremely ugly in the department of law and order in Mexico these days. Here's what the NYT has to say: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/world/americas/guards-implicated-in-mexico-prisons-deadly-gang-attack.html
Additionally, here's an argument about legalization from a more pan-Latin American (or at least Central American) perspective http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/should-central-america-legalize-drugs/253707/
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/the-deadliest-place-in-mexico
― Clancy Fans and Fancy Clans (Eazy), Friday, 2 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link