Drugs, Murder and Mexico

Dude she was directly quoting another post itt:

Fwiw I am not exactly thrilled with icey's 'well, countries be growin' response either

yeah i noticed that obvs duh

okay you really are impossible

omg did i you point out something i already knew, in quoting it did she endorse it, next time in questions from an impossible poster

iirc, she was pretty much doing the exact opposite of endorsing it

thanks a lot everyone for being nice to me in spite of my schtick

Fwiw I am not exactly thrilled with icey's 'well, countries be growin' response either

― revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Monday, October 3, 2011 2:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Flippant, that is the word I have been trying to think of. The topic I thought we were discussing deserves a less flippant treatment than the one it has been given.

― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, October 3, 2011 2:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

U think I'm being too flippant? I feel like maybe towards other ILXors, not towards the larger topic...

― revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Monday, October 3, 2011 2:28 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Nonono -- I don't think you're being flippant. The digression into lols and countries be growin' is what I was referring to.

― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, October 3, 2011 3:03 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

now jon i know you think 'sort of skim this thread' but here is a lesson in reading comprehension 4 u - the first usage of 'countries be growin' is by my mans drugs a money, who was bless his heart generally defending me, except that hes not thrilled w/my countries be growin response which im taking to mean he thinks my treatment of the importance of the mexican economy was somewhat dismissive in the context of all the violence, like i was saying 'its ndb dudes the economy is growin' which of course i was not at all saying - then you can see he asks la lechera, winner of the 2011 thread scold award, if she thinks hes being flippant to which she replies 'nonono' - now if she were doing the exact opposite of endorsing the quote this wouldve been a good time to mention that she thought the quote was in fact, flippant, which it is, but instead she said no three times which does to me make her subsequent quoting of it look a lot more like an endorsement, particularly since its in line w/her general sentiment in this thread, which is that peoples opinions on this topic that are not her own are frivolous

oh boy semantics and namecalling, just what the internet was missing

That would be a great lesson for me if it weren't, you know, completely wrong.

(xpost)

But then I tend to avoid lessons in reading comprehension from angry internet types that think it takes too long to type out the words "for" and "you".

great argument thx

tl
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― dan m, Monday, October 3, 2011 9:45 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

j/k hermanos

btw lechera feel free to chime in anytime here

Yeah I'm not going to waste anymore time arguing someone else's intent, but I'm pretty certain she was never endorsing the "countries be growin'" line. I read it as the thread in general was veering towards flippant with all the zings and jokes.

I guess I don't really have anything to say at the moment. Now that I have been put in my place, let me see how it feels here and get my bearings.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Mexico+uncovers+tunnel+beneath+border/5251295/story.html

has this been discussed yet or are we now way past ever talking about the actual thread topic on this thread again

that article is beneath my dignity

Oh man I want to post a zing here so bad (NB actually not one at cream's expense).

wait, Google claimed that article went up an hour ago but the byline is Aug 13

what happened, I am confused

'U.S. officials said in June that more than 150 secret tunnels for smuggling people and drugs into the United States have been found since 1990.'

wonder how many there are in all

in the face of widespread tunneling, I am not sure exactly what the "BUILD A BIGGER WALL" ppl think they will be achieving

the thing abt the war on drugs in general and like many other wars is that the enemy will always be more dedicated and creative than we are, because its a bigger deal to them

But you see the wall will also go down a hundred miles too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjKBjM1ngw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65sGnwf5bk

Not sure if this will reach you guys as a full article or in part, but today's WSJ has a lengthy piece on the repercussions of targeting bloggers.

just google it then click through

wonder how many tunnels there are in total... ALIEN ANT FARM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jlucr_XJ30&feature=related

xpost Those girls may have gotten to the top, but they didn't swing over and get down to the bottom again. No border crossing, no credibility.

Real quick: icey p much otm about what I was saying: I really don't have time to go into what it was that led me to misrepresent icey"s analysis so badly but def one reason was me trying to be clever and another was that I was rushing to go to work; I wish I wouldve left that whole thing off. LL otm about it being floppant, though more in the vein of flippantly dismissing the nuances in icey's take rather tham about the situation. But it still sounded way bad and LL being my friend, I believe her 'nonono' was more to soften the blow of the dawning realization that I justed outed myself as a crass moron rather than condoning that phrase as a valid take on anything icey said.

Anyways I hope don't re-derail this thread. I just wanted to apologize to the both of you aned to everybody. Have a good night!

no harm done -- icey is not incorrect in finding me annoying, and the only thing that kinda stung genuinely was when he said that people were being "nice" to me
i sent him a webmail with an olive branch in it
we're all good afaic

anyway the song i posted is pretty good and it is about ants
what an exhausting day

That icey jab was off tm and I resent the suggestion that I have been nice to anyone, at all, ever. Suggest wrong.

lol

floppant, son

Oh man is there ever a movie in this

phew, every time I see this thread pop up in bookmarks, my stomach sinks like a pit

"Mexican" hero-een Music

heard this on the radio yesterday about veracruz
mata-zetas are either
a) vigilantes sick of relying on govt/military to protect them
b) sinaloan cartel members getting mad and getting even
c) something else
d) who knows
e) wtf at dumping *more* bodies in the street

http://www.npr.org/2011/10/26/141727973/drug-violence-swamps-a-once-peaceful-mexican-city

Matching bottles of mineral water are lined up in front of each of them.

that part was notable, wasn't it

i also liked the lengthy description of what the seafood woman sold

On the eve of a convention for Mexican prosecutors

Pretty audacious idea in itself.

I keep reading their name as Meta-Zetas, which in terms of "violent gang" is kind of accurate.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Online-hackers-threaten-to-expose-cartel-secrets-2242068.php

lol? :\

Wow.

Apparently a politician's hacked website:

http://gustavorosario.com/

http://sdpnoticias.com/nota/216899/Anonymous_hackea_sitio_de_presunto_funcionario_involucrado_con_el_narco