South Park: Classic or Dud?

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this is probably the picture they used as a template, in fact

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, i know Chef was maimed in the end, but to a certain extent, fuck him. He's the one who hurt them. I just think that the overall tone of the episode was excellent. Something like: "We really don't wanna do this to Isaac/Chef, but he's giving us no choice. Regardless, we still love him, and this is scientology's fault. "

And on letterman last week, Matt and Trey says it takes 6 days to do an episode, from writing the story to the finished product.

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:04 (twenty years ago)

is that really a surprise given how totally shitty the animation is?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

is there a YT/Bittorrent of the Letterman appearance anywhere?

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Wow, they can really turn around those bittorrents.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

it takes a BT about 3 hours or less for most shows to get out, doesn't it?

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

So are we to assume that they ditched whatever they originally had planned for the season opener and put this episode in its place? If so, talk about flying by the seat of your pants (unless they knew about Hayes leaving the show long before the news got out).

It was a good episode, all things considered.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

Well, Friedman's got some more to say -- scroll to the bottom:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188720,00.html

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:36 (twenty years ago)

hmmm it wouldn't be the first time Co$ spoke "for" its members

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 March 2006 06:05 (twenty years ago)

Yeesh. I am totally confused. I'd love to believe Isaac is cool with all this, but wouldn't you think he would speak out against all this crap -- or at least communicate the truth to the SP guys -- given how much press this has gotten?

― Mitya (mitya), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Publicity stunt? The story certainly helped the ratings in the season opener, and if Hayes is ill this buys him some recovery time before Chef makes a comeback. If it's true he had a stroke, however mild, it could have affected his speech and therefore his ability to work.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Friedman appears to be a lying sack of shit, depending on who you now want to believe:

http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-03-27/

Soul great Isaac Hayes has slammed reports a stroke was the real reason he
quit South Park. Last week, an internet report claimed Hayes, 63, had
suffered a stroke in January and a mystery person has issued a press release
on his behalf, declaring his reasons for leaving the program. Scientologist
Hayes departed his voiceover role as ladykiller Chef in the popular
animation series on March 13, claiming he could no longer support the
controversial comedy's "inappropriate ridicule of religious communities."

South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone have killed off the character
of Chef in the opening episode of the new series, which sees the culinary
loverman depicted as a pedophile before dying in a series of grisly events.

Hayes insists his health has nothing to do with his decision to leave the
show, and says the only time he went into hospital was to receive treatment
for high blood pressure and exhaustion. His spokeswoman Amy Harnell says,
"That's a false report. He wasn't in the hospital for very long. He's back
on his feet, and Doing really well. The press release did come from him. He
is the one who decided to leave South Park. Basically, he decided to leave
it behind him."

Harnell adds Hayes is busy preparing himself for fatherhood
again because his fourth wife Adjowa is expecting a baby "due any minute."

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

The hybrid episode is... sorta smug.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

The most Team America episode I've seen.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

What's smugger than smug? Coming with a show pointing out how smug everyone else is.

As if Parker & Stone have never smelled their own farts, yeah right.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:46 (twenty years ago)

This season is horrible thus far. And I say that having pretty much loved every season.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:47 (twenty years ago)

I don't buy the "you're smug cause you accuse other people of being smug" line of reasoning, but that episode was just not funny. Grade= C-

― oops (Oops), Friday, 31 March 2006 03:42 (twenty years ago)

spokeswoman Amy Harnell

Wasn't the Fox guy's point that unappointed spokespeople were speaking for Hayes?

Besides, isn't it kind of ungrateful to gratuitously kill someone off who's basically been responsible for most of yr success, even if they are a wackjob?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:06 (twenty years ago)

That's considerably overstating Chef's role.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:24 (twenty years ago)

quels provacateurs. i guess there was no way they'd leave the muhammad cartoons alone. but WHAT WILL COMEDY CENTRAL DO?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:44 (twenty years ago)

(or provocateurs, even)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:48 (twenty years ago)

the family guy parody was the good part.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:51 (twenty years ago)

it was pretty otm.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

interchangable jokes that have nothing to do with the plot... loved it.

― Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:01 (twenty years ago)

interchangable jokes that have nothing to do with the plot...

I don't quite get that criticism though- I mean, I watch Family Guy, South Park, etc. for the laffs; I could care less how integral the jokes are to the show's plotline. Also, it seems to me that South Park's insistence on having a "clever"/esp. meaningful plotline has been contributing the show's recent weakness... e.g. the ham-fisted social commentary in the hybrids episode.

I think the best SP episodes focus on the world of the kids rather than adult concerns-- f'rinstance the Casa Bonita one...

― Dell, Thursday, 6 April 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)

I agree. The aliens in Cartman's butt...MechaStreisand...George Clooney as Gay Dog...Fun With Weapons...even the Lord of the Rings episode...that's the stuff I love still. The topical stuff is getting boring because now you know that's all they're going to do. Personally it irritates me, because they're just setting themselves up as jeering nihilists, instead of being wacky guys who remember how freaked out childhood really was.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)

actually, that reminds me. I wanted to start a thread on endless hipster snark/contrarianism as modern nihilism

― kingfish, Friday, 7 April 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)

Don't conflate "meaningful" plots with jokes that are integrated with the plotline. The "interchangeability" of the jokes really means they're all the same joke, which is great if you like that joke, but boring if you don't...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 April 2006 04:27 (twenty years ago)

so, but, is comedy central going to let them show a cartoon of muhammad? and if they do, will anyone care?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Muhammad already appear in the Super Best Friends episode?

― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 7 April 2006 05:44 (twenty years ago)

because they're just setting themselves up as jeering nihilists

even worse, jeering libertarians. and: "the left" is dumb, shrill and self-content.

― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Muhammad already appear in the Super Best Friends episode?

yep. but that was before The Muhammad Cartoons.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I thought this episode was screamingly funny and not really at all about the cartoon controversy.

― Dan (Hahaha) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)

the family guy parody thing was totally spot-on

― latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

what was the family guy parody?? south park is funnier than family guy

― +++++, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Basically, Lois would complain to Peter about something banal, Peter would say, "That reminds of the time I *non-sequitur*!", then they would switch to the non-sequitur scene, which would go on for too long before cutting back to Lois making another banal complaint.

The foundation of the episode was that Cartman was using hysteria over the Muhammad cartoons to get "Family Guy" taken off the air because he was pissed that people kept saying he had the same sense of humor.

― Dan (That Reminds Me Of The Time I Auditioned To Be Knight Rider's Car) Perry (D, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha

― +++++, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I like "Family Guy" a lot and I thought it was fucking hysterical.

― Dan (Plus There Was A Big Wheel Chase Scene) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

not really at all about the cartoon controversy.

i thought it was funny too. but it was definitely about the cartoon controversy -- along with being about how much trey and matt hate being compared to family guy.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

i mean, for better or worse, i think they take their position as Defenders of the First Amendment kind of seriously. you can argue that that doesn't always make for the hilarity, but sometimes it does, and anyway i appreciate the gesture.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Much more of the episode was dedicated to ripping on "Family Guy" than was dedicated to the cartoon controversy; there was the one scene with Butters' dad (which was completely awesome) but the rest of the time it was used as a framing device to totally blast "Family Guy".

When I say that the episode wasn't about the cartoon controversy I don't mean to imply that they didn't take a stance on the cartoon controversy; I mean that the episode wasn't focused on the issues behind the cartoon controversy. It was focused on how much they hate "Family Guy".

― Dan (Subversion) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

It was focused on how much they hate "Family Guy".

Cheers to them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

I hope this sets off a "East coast/West Coast rap" style war between the shows. Complete with drive by shootings.

― Lurker L Lurkerstien, Friday, 7 April 2006 17:50 (twenty years ago)

the best part was why the family guy was using muhammad, which was pretty much just for non-sequiter value and there's him and peter going to get some iced-t and look -- Mr. T. is serving it and he says something like, "hey, fools, want some tea?" and peter says, "uh, ok, yeah i guess." and then there's a pause and peter says "well, this is an awkward pause." and then cut!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

the "puss out" bit was cute, but like with the ayn rand bit, i think there's some serious narcissism of small differences going on here

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

The weird thing about it was how much it reminded me of the Simpsons' parody of South Park (ie: "They don't tell jokes, they just randomly mention celebrities names in weird situations and then smirk").

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:00 (twenty years ago)

The episode they showed just before the Muhammad one last night was the Jesus Show vs Jimbo's hunting show episode, where a guy in the audience for TJS can't stop talking about how you can't blame Michael Jackson for wanting to touch children because he's MICHAEL JACKSON, completely apropos of nothing else going on in the episode.

― Dan (Ironing Yum Etc) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

i think there's some serious narcissism of small differences going on here

or, how you say, a BEEF.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:08 (twenty years ago)

admit it. you just want the drive-bys

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

You know with these guys it's gonna be all smug-bys.

― Dan (My Pandering Humor Is Better!) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

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