JOE ROGAN VS. CARLOS MENCIA... FITE!!!

http://68.media.tumblr.com/13d46273e4c9069f73c615d5b9d3309a/tumblr_opjrj1p13Z1uc3ovio1_1280.jpg

hmm

https://www.facebook.com/hermano/videos/10214723690180350/

Tie-dye t-shirts with big streaks of black in them are one of my favorite genre of tie-dyes.

i don't understand how he can believe this and still be "friends" with alex jones. is he just opportunistic or really fucking dumb?

why not both

it's just kinda weird.

i'm not a "de-platforming" guy and i have nothing in principle against him having these alt right figures on his podcast (he has had everyone from milo to gavin mcinness to alex jones and, most famously, jordan peterson). but in his conversations with these people he barely pushes back on their ideas, if at all. he is probably as responsible as anyone else for jordan peterson's rise. if he really wants to build a more compassionate society, and if he really cares about the welfare of refugees at the border, he should be more skeptical of these people (to put it lightly)

think it's been a while since he was tight with jones, voiced skepticism about lol sandy hook truthery. the thing you learn with rogan is he'll mostly go along with whoever he's got on (that tie dyed video, i assume from the voice duncan trussell was the guest), so, like last week? it was bari weiss and then killer mike, so you've got clips of him on the war on poverty with killer mike and then he's got a clip with bari weiss on "anti-semitism by progressives." some intellectual darkweb guys are so dumb that majority report can pull clips of him dunking on jp or dave rubin by just picking at the seams of their arguments. but he's usually very credulous, so depending on the guest, he might be getting horrified by the treatment of white south african farmers or all aboard board with medicare for all. i mean, overall, despite his preoccupation with free speech and welcoming alt-right guests, he has the fairly moderate libtard opinions expected from a 50something coastal elite dude + very mild conspiracy theory stuff (more fbi assassinations of radical leaders and less chemtrails these days).

yeah, "credulous" is a better word for what i'm talking about than "dumb." he does seem to look for the "best" in his guests, which is a good personality trait i suppose, but it's weird when it leads him to giving pretty egregious right wing figures the chance to prove that they too can hang

idk but isn't his thing that he DOESN'T push back?

I'd never actually seen or heard him till recently (though I knew he was famous for the podcast I hadn't seen anything until maybe two months ago). From what I've seen he just kind of agrees with whichever guest he has on, maybe the only real consistency around the idea of "free speech" - which I don't think of as exclusively a 'modern right wing thing'.

he has a big audience, if he's saying stuff like this he either believes it or thinks enough of his audience does, or both?

i think his audience are mostly liberals or else vaguely apolitical libertarians. i've gotten texts from friends asking me to help them formulate reasons why jordan peterson is wrong. they know he's wrong, but they're kinda turned around after hearing the podcast where rogan agreed with the stuff he was saying and made it seem like common sense.

full disclosure: that happened one time. i don't why i made it plural.

i actually don't think rogan is any dumber or more credulous than the average american newsmedia personality, though, and probably less reactionary and definitely less cold-blooded. i also i think his working class roots show (how lame that sounds writing it on ilx in this spirited defense of joe rogan!), like he was set by 30 but still grew up the kid of a single mom, raised in newton mass, didn't go to college etc.

it's ridiculous to suggest he's being taken advantage of by right wing grifters but intellectually he's quite often bullied; he has that anti-intellectual streak that makes america great, where he'll express an idea, like, why would you go to college and major in history when you can just listen to dan carlin's hardcore history? or, why would a kid go a hundred grand into debt getting a humanities degree when the great lectures are on youtube, ted talks, jordan peterson lecturing on the hero's journey and jung! he'd rather grapple with ideas from his own perspective and knowledge, which leaves him vulnerable to the elite-level sophistry of, say, candace owens or jordan p (if you put him against a neanderthal reactionary like owen benjamin or 2019 nick dipaolo, he does fine). he does push back! but it's usually ineffective.

great posts dylann

Yea i agree—good analysis. There is something charmingly populist about him and I understand why the podcast is popular. But yeah, he is a good mark for the peterson’s of the world

he does seem pretty consistent on a few other issues though, such as "fat people are gross" and "forced diversity ruined Star Wars"

Lol

being friends with Dana White probably messes up your brain

credit where credit's due, rogan played a key role in destroying elon musk's career

i think his audience are mostly liberals or else vaguely apolitical libertarians.

The youtube viewers are all young white dudes on the alt-right pipeline (ala everything else on youtube)

Really?

all I use Youtube for is 70s albums and bootleg audiobooks and I still get Jordan Peterson videos in my Up Next

dylann otm

also i think politically his audience might be somewhat diverse, might skew male for sure but i think some people who might want to hear the interview w/ a mycologist or a neuroscientist from uc berkeley talking sleep might not be the same people who listen to the mma bullshit or the comedian interviews

dylann nailed it

I enjoy his show, particularly when he has comedians/his friends on. I like whenever they talk about a comedian's creative process at length - at once totally foreign to me, but as an artist, interesting and familiar and sometimes fascinating. he makes otherwise intolerable or uninteresting personalities interesting to me - Burr, Fitzsimmons, Segura, Papa, Christina P... I'd rather listen to a comedian talk about the process and just have a conversation rather than listening to or watching their act.

and because the show is so successful you get these amazing one-offs - Roseanne, Elon Musk, Alex Jones - where Rogan is in on the joke. the rightwing "intellectual" episodes are insufferable because as dylann said, Rogan defers to them. fawning over JP is one thing, but Dave Rubin? Seriously?

He's going to have Jack from Twitter on this Friday.

Awesome

The youtube viewers are all young white dudes on the alt-right pipeline (ala everything else on youtube)
Really?

― Trϵϵship, Monday, January 28, 2019 12:01 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all I use Youtube for is 70s albums and bootleg audiobooks and I still get Jordan Peterson videos in my Up Next

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, January 28, 2019 12:09 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so i just realized i had these too in my up next. what the fuck

Some of it's really broad reasoning, I blocked an advertiser on Facebook or Instagram and under the reasons why I was seeing it was just 'men in the southern US' basically.

If Youtube/Google knows your demographic information, it just runs with the "males between 25-49 in the United States watch a ton of Jordan Peterson clips."

The youtube viewers are all young white dudes on the alt-right pipeline (ala everything else on youtube)

it's worth noting that even if you have no data/history for YouTube to scrape, it still suggests an entire platter of Joe Rogan videos right on the front page.

Lol Alex Jones said "Rogan IS the Deep State"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9p6jRHDZ0E

rogan and jones in happier times

god yes for all the whining about "liberal" algorithms you really cannot click a single one of these videos without getting flooded with "JOE ROGAN TAKES ON NEW GILLETTE COMMERIAL" or "BILL BURR DESTROYS FEMINISM IN 6 MINUTES!!!" for the next 2 months

credit where credit's due, rogan played a key role in destroying elon musk's career

― maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara)

elon musk played the most key role in destroying elon musk's career, he still sucks

and yeah i installed a dodgy russian chrome plugin just so i wouldn't have to see youtube recommending me jordan peterson and joe rogan videos, now everything i do on the internet is probably going directly to some russian oligarch or another but at this point i trust russian oligarchs more than i trust youtube's recommendation engine

If you ever click on anything but music or channels you subscribe to, go in and delete the videos from your Youtube history. That's kept me Rogan/feminazi destroyed-free for months now.

lmao if you didn't think Russian oligarchs could see all that anyway rusho

I purposefully reject every Jordan Peterson suggestion I get and yet they still keep coming. I click on "I don't like this" but it never stops

its called courtship, ums

i watched one bill burr video like 4 years ago and my suggestion algorithm is basically diarrhea now

haha yeah I think I watched a ton of Norm McDonald on talk show appearances and also watched a few Rogans after I started with Leia Remini breaking down the weird ass Scientology shit she went through (which was actually really interesting)

Surprised so many ppl are bothered by YouTube recommendations

YouTube has become a quiet powerhouse of political radicalization in recent years, powered by an algorithm that a former employee says suggests increasingly fringe content. And far-right YouTubers have learned to exploit that algorithm and land their videos high in the recommendations on less extreme videos.

Its weird how out in the open that is but still easy to overlook

More leftists should probably try to go on rogan. Seems like a pretty easy way to get your ideas out there.

username fails to check out

It’s mad how people would insist that this shit for brains was apolitical or didn’t have a clear slant. So glad I never listened to anyone saying his shit was good. Inadvertent dunk on the “great and powerful” clown in front of the curtain.

The great and powerful @elonmusk.
If it wasn't for him we'd be fucked. He makes what I think is the most compelling case for Trump you'll hear, and I agree with him every step of the way.
For the record, yes, that's an endorsement of Trump.
Enjoy the podcast pic.twitter.com/LdBxZFVsLN

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) November 5, 2024

if you are paying for Spotify then you are paying for this guy

I’ve got bad news for you about ethical consumption under capitalism and the mainstreaming of fascism by the main media platforms m8

Wonder what Musk said, guess I'll never know.

I am dark gothic MAGAAAAAA!!!

Rogan endorsing at the 11th hour isn't going to do a thing

also he is a piece of shit

Rogan trying to make up for suggesting Trump hire the Kill Tony guy

Rogan endorsing at the 11th hour isn't going to do a thing

Honestly I'm not so sure. Not just Rogan but Trump did a circuit of similar large audience podcasts in the immediate run in to the election - and then looking at demographics where Trump overperformed relative to 2020, I think its possible it did have an effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVl9xXG1pbk

Also covered here in Tempe, albeit briefly

There was a longer clip talking to younger voters in line but I could only find this one

Can someone with higher tolerance for bullshit than me listen to the Rogan interview with Trump and give me the rundown? I tried to do it the other day, "for science," but I noped out when Joe was setting up his first question like "You've been the most attacked person, that I've seen, probably ever in history" 🙄🙄🙄

Yep, here’s your summary

it’s always 2 dumb bitches telling each other “exactlyyyyy” pic.twitter.com/53PIuERfV7

— ✨ Mikey ✨ (@mikey_almeida) June 21, 2023

I know the timelines don't line up at all, but I want to post something about the world we could be living in if only Brynn would have married a different NewsRadio cast member.

I hate to use the "sunshine is the best disinfectant" cliche but in many cases it's been true - look at the effect his podcasts with Alex Jones and Elon Musk had on their respective careers.

― flappy bird, Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:01 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol

New Elephant Graveyard video. Long but awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvRS3NwIlQ

yeah it's incredible, I know it's a minor thing but using bits of the Seinfeld theme to bleep out swear words makes me crack up every single time

yikes some of the old post in this thread

I watched the Elephant Graveyard video because ppl are talking about it and I can’t say I understand what’s so great about it. It’s like one decent point (The Austin comedy scene runs itself like some famous death cults) just beaten into the ground for 90 minutes as a … parody of Adam Curtis movies?

This thing turning a barely-funny gag into something people find “insightful” is like the leftie version of those Sam Hyde “these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny” videos

I know it's a minor thing but using bits of the Seinfeld theme to bleep out swear words makes me crack up every single time

Easily the best part of this. The video felt far more Craig Baldwin/Sub-Genius than one of Adam Curtis. Felt like the conclusion was coming home at the 40min mark then suddenly realized holy fuck I'm not even halfway through this?