Peep Show (now with added Mitchell & Webb Look)

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Not a convert to this show, then? :)

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

my problem w/ this show=I know someone called the same name as the guy in the show that looks like the guy in the show and he is a bit of a dick+it isn't funny.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

'+...' = u&k.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I will watch anything that Robert Webb and David Mitchell are in.
They are brilliant. First saw them on 'Bruiser' on BBC 2(which also had the woman who plays Sophie and Martin Freeman and Charlotte Hudson rwrorr) and then in their superb one-off 'Daydream Believer' (it was a Comedy lab episode). 'Peep Show' is a good vehicle for them
but i think it would probably be even better if they'd written it themselves. Incidentally Mitchell's character in 'Daydream' was obsessed with fascism/Mussolini - compare his Stalingrad fantasies in 'Peep Show'. They said recently the writers based the characters on them, which they found disturbing.
Hopefully it come into its own in the next series.

pete s, Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

'will come into it's own..'
sounds slightly filthy

pete s, Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the funniest British thing to have been on Channel 4 since...

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

'Pornography:the Musical'.

pete s, Saturday, 27 December 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
This returns for a second run, by the way, on Friday of next week, Channel 4.

High expectations, anyone?

I must say I rated it very highly last time; only caveat being the obtrusively 'edgy', malcontented camera work. The material needed a more classic sitcom approach in this way; while I accept a lot was based around interior monologues, did the visuals have to be as self-conscious? A moot point, perhaps... I do feel it harmed it slightly but not irrevocably.

But yes: good actors (that's the key! nothing they do is stand-up mugging or 'routine') are the main pair, and gratifying underplaying in the wider ensemble - though I loved that rather exaggerated businessman grotesque, Johnson. Looking forward immensely to this returning. The new Peter Kay show is on before it in the schedules, also.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.peepsshow.com/intro.html

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I clearly couldn't have been paying attention as I could have sworn that the first run had three main characters.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 12 November 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

well if you count the love interest there sort-of is. I think this is pretty funny but at the same time i don't like it. weird.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's because i don't like the blonde guy - he gives me the creeps but not really in the was he is supposed to, i don't think. He's a terrible actor and signposts the humour too obviously. ugh.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm Louis Theroux. I'm Louis Theroux."

**%@, Saturday, 13 November 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess 'the two main characters' = the two whom we are given internal monologues from, at many points. We aren't given Sophie's thoughts, generally, though they gestured towards this by having Mark infilitrate her e-mail. She is bound to be more of a stooge and coordinate around whom Mark revolves, but is always made just a little more than that: rather a plausibly naturalistic figure actually.

Friday's episode did impress me; a good deal of tenderness, and a commendable avoidance of obvious moves: unlike the preceeding "Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere", which I hoped would have something of the Tinniswood Uncle Mort & Carter Brandon radio-travelogue about it... but that was sadly rather tired with its irrelevant 'parodies', 'ironic' musical telegraphing. It had potential, but lacked the poetry required; how much better those silhouetted "Dirty Dancing" parodies would have worked with the Ingmar Bergman, or Mike Leigh, silence behind them? Nothing too deep was wrung out of the situation; not enough absurdity, not enough muted feeling. Maybe it'll improve, but I'm skeptical.

"Peep Show" is sharper with the non sequitur, and actually manages to surprise a bit; 't plays often as an onanistic "Bottom" crossed with "The Office". Admittedly, I do have to agree with Jed that the Mark actor is the more skilled... v. good supporting cast; must say that Olivia Colman is right for that role.

An episode without the inner-monologues could be a masterstroke, actually; like moments in the "Office" Christmas Specials where inter-relations appeared so differently without the 'docu'-framing. Being so used to the show's conceit would make such an edition a different take on things, and add a bit more complexity: maybe change how we view the main characters, not being given their innermost thoughts, once in a way.

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 13 November 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Having only watched Peep Show intermittently (but being pretty impressed, admittedly), do they mention in the show how much the guy that looks like Richard Littlejohn looks like Richard Littlejohn?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 November 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark character, presumably? No, I don't believe so, though maybe Mark's discussion of the bad and good things arising from the '60s sexual revolution could be read as Littlejohnian. ;) paraphrasing: "Okay, I can take the romantic side, "I have a dream", the *Colours*... but not the... *Squalor*!"

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 14 November 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

do they mention in the show how much the guy that looks like Richard Littlejohn looks like Richard Littlejohn?

not sure who you mean at all here, but it was a good episode and v funny at times (certainly more than Max & Paddy)

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone bought/seen the DVD of the first series yet? Any good extras? I'm almost wishing I had a TV, just for Peep Show. If there was a way I could make it only receive Peep Show (and maybe The West Wing), I would do it.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It was very funny indeed. Having found Max And Paddy funnier than I possibly should have I was physically hurting by the end of Peep Show.

RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

What a superb friday eve, Max & Paddy (how dare you!) being really funny (I was worried that it might not be.) & then Peep Show. Perfect!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Max & Paddy was roundly panned by the Late Review - surprising as i would've expected it would totally be Tom Paulin's bag.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

mildly amusing.
it isn't what it wants to be.
constant POV shots = dud.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, max and paddy wasn't great, peep show was, as usual, watched from behind my fingers, it's so excrutiating and yet brilliant.

the line about "HAVING A GREAT BIG WANK" was particularly well-received chez carsmile...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 15 November 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Me disagreeing with ILX (again) shockah!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 November 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't forget Father Ted and The Simpsons, and even Friends. it was indeed a perfect evening, I thought M&P was pretty funny.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 15 November 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really like Father Ted if I'm honest, it bugs me for some reason.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 November 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

it isn't what it wants to be.

? disagree there - it seems to be fulfilling the mandate 'make people laugh while presenting sitcom in a relatively novel way' - assuming that IS the mandate

constant POV shots = dud

whole point tho!

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 15 November 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

first episode of new series didn't really do it for me, and i loved the first one.

hasn't mark gotten fat???

stevie (stevie), Monday, 15 November 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

constant POV shots = dud

whole point tho!

ya. still doesn't work though.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 15 November 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it works okay. personally i enjoy this style as it's not been explored much before and it can be quite interesting to have the characters looking at 'you'. you might argue that as a gimmick it wears off quickly but i would argue the same about The Office - it got to the point where the idea that a TV crew were filming it all for a documentary just became absurd. still hilarious tho, so whether it 'worked' or not didn't matter so much.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 15 November 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck, that was funny

"Wow, this crack is really moreish"

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 19 November 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

that was a great episode

so otm about racist friends too.

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

should I buy this on dvd? will I enjoy it, considering that my touchpoints for recent britcoms are the office, alan partridge, and spaced?

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

i should think so

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Saturday, 20 November 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
haha, yes, it is funny. although it didn't really take off for me until the third episode, and then, after the 4th, I felt like I'd watched enough in one sitting.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"Come on then Hands, let's go and get you some crack"

"I'm gonna broom you! I will, you'll get the broom, I promise!"

"Now your girlfriend and my best friend are going off to fuck, and what are we gonna do? Make a tent in the lounge and eat Dairylea Triangles? Is that what you want? Cos that's exactly what's gonna happen."

I fucking love Peep Show. It's never going to cross over like The Office did, being (I think) too close to the bone for mass mainstream consumption - ie although these character types no doubt exist in every office/pub/block of flats in the country, nobody really wants to think about that fact too deeply - but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn't recommend it to my mum and dad, certainly...

"Are you saying we can't be friends just because I'm stalking you?"

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

best program channel 4 has come up with in ages. sad its finished though.

splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I was, in the end, disappointed by Max and Padddy. Every other episode was 'Max bumps into old friend who is a psycho just out of prison'. Truly it was a Road to Nowhere. It had its moments though. Tellingly, the best bit was back at The Phoenix.

I don't like Peep Show because they talk to the camera when they are supposed to be talking to each other. This is wrong. Over the shoulder shot and counter-shot is bad, but this is worse. Also it has too much swearing and appears to be genetically engineered for young people. Steptoe and Son wasn't specifically for rag and bone men, was it? I mean, I'm sure they enjoyed it, but you could still get into it if you were a roadsweeper.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 23 December 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought the last episode was maybe the best yet...

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 26 December 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

rubbish.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 26 December 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

why's that?

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 26 December 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

it isn't funny.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 26 December 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

'15 storeys high'?

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 26 December 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to put paid to the rumours I myself have ever created a tent in the living room and/or eaten dairylea triangles and discovered the "processed cheese hangover".

Not Starry, Sunday, 26 December 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If this show comes high in this 'tv treats' thing on right now, i will feel strangely elated. It was the best thing on telly.
Max and Paddy was shite.

my fave Superhans bit: "i tell you what that crack is really moreish"

Bumfluff, Sunday, 26 December 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

superhans during the wedding all coked up in the bathroom stall!

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 26 December 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Thinking about it, the unexplained oddity (within certain 'type') of the subsidiary characters - Super Hans and Toni particularly - works really well.

This second series really did impress me, especially as it moved along. The characters - if not perhaps so strongly the situation - were pushed into interesting waters. And why is a developing, serial situation now seemingly what I want in a sitcom? Probably a bit too much Reggie Perrin watched of late (though of course the brilliance there, is how the basic melancholy situation is eventually reaffirmed, after, say, the novelties/experiments of new identities, Grot and the commune...) ;)

The occasionally more 'reflective' tone of this was very pleasing; just the sort of thing I was looking for after the last series. Questions remain as to whether the show can perhaps 'speak to' a larger audience, and extend further its reach (aye, maybe change the whole dynamic by removing the POV? would throw up a whole new set of questions about the characters)... but it was more than good enough to be getting on with.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 26 December 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

so, it's all old jokes and crap jokes?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 27 December 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Not sure it is all necessarily about 'jokes'; 't ain't stand-up comedy.

Tom May (Tom May), Monday, 27 December 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

uh-oh

RJG (RJG), Monday, 27 December 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

those episodes are all S4, not S5

Colonel Poo, Friday, 21 November 2025 10:53 (seven months ago)

S5 is not "generally considered the peak"

It was all downhill from 1 & 2!

Number None, Friday, 21 November 2025 10:59 (seven months ago)

(with occasional returns to form)

Number None, Friday, 21 November 2025 10:59 (seven months ago)

those episodes are all S4, not S5

― Colonel Poo, Friday, 21 November 2025 10:53 (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, good point

S5 is not "generally considered the peak"

It was all downhill from 1 & 2!

― Number None, Friday, 21 November 2025 10:59 (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not my opinion but that's the consensus online. S2 is my favourite too - for me the nadir is Season 3 episode Jurying.

giving you schtick (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 November 2025 11:58 (seven months ago)

It’s all good

ok (D-40), Friday, 21 November 2025 15:33 (seven months ago)

Maybe I'm a terribly undiscerning viewer but I never really thought there was *that* much of a decrement in excellence as the seasons progressed.

I agree; although the latter series with Business Secrets of the Pharoahs, life coaching etc are far more forgettable. I don't like anything involving Saz either. Or that storyline with the gym trainer. Sober Hans getting married is ace though.
I hate the dog-eating bit of the stag one (that is definitely the lowest point) but liked the wedding one.

kinder, Friday, 21 November 2025 17:45 (seven months ago)

feel like the dog eating was a silly way to end what had been a decent episode which has one of my favourite quotes - "Jeremy, there are many things I would do to help you, but digging a hole in the wintry earth with my bare hands so that you can bury the corpse of a dog you killed is not one of them."

giving you schtick (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 November 2025 17:51 (seven months ago)

Peep Show is at its best when the situations they're in are at least close to plausible or somehow relatable. Eating the dog was neither.

Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Saturday, 22 November 2025 00:23 (seven months ago)

Funny, I thought I'd seen all of S3 but I don't recall anything of the synopsis of Jurying

Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Saturday, 22 November 2025 00:25 (seven months ago)

Y'all prompted me to immediately re-watch the oft-maligned season 8 (life-coaching, Business Secrets of the Pharaohs, paintball, bathroom fittings, lots of Dobby) before going to bed last night. (Barely the length of a feature film in total, conveniently.) If this alleged (by the interweb) 'worst season' ranks below average in terms of hilariousness and crucial "life is futile" vibes it's not-super obvious that the margin even reaches statistical significance, as it were. I guess I should immediately refresh my memory of seasons 1/2...

It’s a powerful boat for a powerful mind. (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 22 November 2025 01:13 (seven months ago)

"not super-obvious" rather o_O

It’s a powerful boat for a powerful mind. (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 22 November 2025 01:23 (seven months ago)

Do the Brits now call it “Season” instead of “Series”?

Remo Palmieri: The Adventure Begins (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 22 November 2025 03:48 (seven months ago)

LOL. I've just added a whole bunch of 'seasons' to the thread (I think I both use pretty much interchangeably) but the UK is not responsible for those instances. :) A text search suggests that 'series' has appeared more than five times as frequently as 'season' if we ignore those...

It’s a powerful boat for a powerful mind. (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 22 November 2025 04:46 (seven months ago)

I agree with D40 here, I've rewatched it all about five times and I don't think there's a huge dropoff apart from the odd dud episode like the dog one. Even very late there are some amazing characters, like the bloke obsessed with orthodox churches or whatever.

LocalGarda, Saturday, 22 November 2025 07:35 (seven months ago)

I'm so used to hearing "Seasons" with regard to US TV that I end up defaulting to it sometimes. But yeah it's usually "Series" when referring to UK shows.

That said "Series" is annoying as I'm never sure how to emphasise if I'm speaking in the plural or not. Keep wanting to say "Serieses" which is bonkers

Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Saturday, 22 November 2025 10:08 (seven months ago)

I'm going to have to rewatch this whole programme, aren't I? It's my partner's favourite show and she puts on random episodes to go to sleep to. Don't know how she doesn't cringe herself to sleep

Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Saturday, 22 November 2025 10:11 (seven months ago)

LOL (re: sleeping to it.)

I've now re-watched series 9 too. (In addition to 8 last night, I mean. I don't really need all *that* much encouragement it seems.) It certainly doesn't feel like it desperately needed to be killed off when it was. Far from it. LocalGarda OTM about the addition of pretty solid characters right to the end.

Basically the best sit-com evah. Maybe.

It’s a powerful boat for a powerful mind. (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 22 November 2025 11:04 (seven months ago)

yeah, do it DL.

https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/peepshow/S07E05/gif/6ruw4aya3h72.gif

kinder, Saturday, 22 November 2025 17:28 (seven months ago)

The final series is really really good

chap, Saturday, 22 November 2025 22:11 (seven months ago)

OTM. eg. Olivia Colman's final few scenes have been haunting me anew for a couple days now lol.

It’s a powerful boat for a powerful mind. (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 24 November 2025 06:38 (seven months ago)

With any episode anybody describes as weak I just immediately think of at least one thing that's indispensably good about it. Matt Townsend gym episode has one of the single best jokes in the series ("what's a novel?"). Jury episode has Mark's big spiteful lecture about consumer capitalism as he reclaims the apartment. Jeremy's "you've ground down my self-worth" thing as he wets himself on the church balcony is fantastic and probably emotionally necessary as a lead-in to the ceremony itself. You have to get a lot closer to the end before reaching any where I just think eh, yeah, that one's not great.

ን (nabisco), Monday, 24 November 2025 22:55 (seven months ago)


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