Anyway, the larger issues -- sounds about right. And yet the place is not collapsing about our ears.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 September 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
http://nymag.com/news/features/michael-lewis-2011-10/index4.html
― iatee, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
The interview with him on Fresh Air today was very interesting, even though Terry Gross was more annoying than usual.
― DaTruf (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
“It’s really one of the most remarkable long-form journalism careers,” says Gerald Marzorati, his former editor at The New York Times Magazine. “He’s had at least as big a career as Gay Talese or Joan Didion or Tom Wolfe. ”
big ups to michael and all
but prose-wise michael is maybe fit to shine tom wolfe's left wingtip
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
michael is awesome everyone just let him be himself
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 00:40 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/10/24/michael_lewis_s_home_game_the_essays_that_will_soon_become_a_sit.html
why do you need so much money michael lewis
― iatee, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 01:55 (fourteen years ago)
He gave quite a commencement speech at Princeton: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S33/87/54K53/
The "Moneyball" story has practical implications. If you use better data, you can find better values; there are always market inefficiencies to exploit, and so on. But it has a broader and less practical message: don't be deceived by life's outcomes. Life's outcomes, while not entirely random, have a huge amount of luck baked into them. Above all, recognize that if you have had success, you have also had luck — and with luck comes obligation. You owe a debt, and not just to your Gods. You owe a debt to the unlucky.I make this point because — along with this speech — it is something that will be easy for you to forget.I now live in Berkeley, California. A few years ago, just a few blocks from my home, a pair of researchers in the Cal psychology department staged an experiment. They began by grabbing students, as lab rats. Then they broke the students into teams, segregated by sex. Three men, or three women, per team. Then they put these teams of three into a room, and arbitrarily assigned one of the three to act as leader. Then they gave them some complicated moral problem to solve: say what should be done about academic cheating, or how to regulate drinking on campus.Exactly 30 minutes into the problem-solving the researchers interrupted each group. They entered the room bearing a plate of cookies. Four cookies. The team consisted of three people, but there were these four cookies. Every team member obviously got one cookie, but that left a fourth cookie, just sitting there. It should have been awkward. But it wasn't. With incredible consistency the person arbitrarily appointed leader of the group grabbed the fourth cookie, and ate it. Not only ate it, but ate it with gusto: lips smacking, mouth open, drool at the corners of their mouths. In the end all that was left of the extra cookie were crumbs on the leader's shirt.This leader had performed no special task. He had no special virtue. He'd been chosen at random, 30 minutes earlier. His status was nothing but luck. But it still left him with the sense that the cookie should be his. This experiment helps to explain Wall Street bonuses and CEO pay, and I'm sure lots of other human behavior. But it also is relevant to new graduates of Princeton University. In a general sort of way you have been appointed the leader of the group. Your appointment may not be entirely arbitrary. But you must sense its arbitrary aspect: you are the lucky few. Lucky in your parents, lucky in your country, lucky that a place like Princeton exists that can take in lucky people, introduce them to other lucky people, and increase their chances of becoming even luckier. Lucky that you live in the richest society the world has ever seen, in a time when no one actually expects you to sacrifice your interests to anything. All of you have been faced with the extra cookie. All of you will be faced with many more of them. In time you will find it easy to assume that you deserve the extra cookie. For all I know, you may. But you'll be happier, and the world will be better off, if you at least pretend that you don't. Never forget: In the nation's service. In the service of all nations.Thank you. And good luck.
I make this point because — along with this speech — it is something that will be easy for you to forget.
I now live in Berkeley, California. A few years ago, just a few blocks from my home, a pair of researchers in the Cal psychology department staged an experiment. They began by grabbing students, as lab rats. Then they broke the students into teams, segregated by sex. Three men, or three women, per team. Then they put these teams of three into a room, and arbitrarily assigned one of the three to act as leader. Then they gave them some complicated moral problem to solve: say what should be done about academic cheating, or how to regulate drinking on campus.
Exactly 30 minutes into the problem-solving the researchers interrupted each group. They entered the room bearing a plate of cookies. Four cookies. The team consisted of three people, but there were these four cookies. Every team member obviously got one cookie, but that left a fourth cookie, just sitting there. It should have been awkward. But it wasn't. With incredible consistency the person arbitrarily appointed leader of the group grabbed the fourth cookie, and ate it. Not only ate it, but ate it with gusto: lips smacking, mouth open, drool at the corners of their mouths. In the end all that was left of the extra cookie were crumbs on the leader's shirt.
This leader had performed no special task. He had no special virtue. He'd been chosen at random, 30 minutes earlier. His status was nothing but luck. But it still left him with the sense that the cookie should be his.
This experiment helps to explain Wall Street bonuses and CEO pay, and I'm sure lots of other human behavior. But it also is relevant to new graduates of Princeton University. In a general sort of way you have been appointed the leader of the group. Your appointment may not be entirely arbitrary. But you must sense its arbitrary aspect: you are the lucky few. Lucky in your parents, lucky in your country, lucky that a place like Princeton exists that can take in lucky people, introduce them to other lucky people, and increase their chances of becoming even luckier. Lucky that you live in the richest society the world has ever seen, in a time when no one actually expects you to sacrifice your interests to anything.
All of you have been faced with the extra cookie. All of you will be faced with many more of them. In time you will find it easy to assume that you deserve the extra cookie. For all I know, you may. But you'll be happier, and the world will be better off, if you at least pretend that you don't.
Never forget: In the nation's service. In the service of all nations.
Thank you.
And good luck.
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
obama piece is kinda boring
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 11:53 (thirteen years ago)
I can't imagine it would be good.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
flash boys is a good page-turner
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:36 (ten years ago)
i can't believe I haven't mentioned that he is a little league coach where we live, and my son plays against his teams all the time. he's very nice in person; tabitha may be too, she's very reserved although I talked to her a few times one year when she was coaching. it's a dwindling population of people who know who she is and are excited about that, really. His team this year bit the dust (and my kid's team won the championship! Take that ML!)!
― akm, Friday, 10 July 2015 19:53 (ten years ago)
SO MUCH FOR MONEYBALL.
― :wq (Leee), Friday, 10 July 2015 20:15 (ten years ago)
lmao
― johnny crunch, Friday, 10 July 2015 21:53 (ten years ago)
he seems nice on charlie rose
― johnny crunch, Friday, 10 July 2015 21:54 (ten years ago)
If I recall correctly, he DID give up a job in finance to do some good in the world.
― We'd like to conduct a wobulator test here (Sanpaku), Friday, 10 July 2015 22:14 (ten years ago)
http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-two-friends-who-changed-how-we-think-about-how-we-think
review of his new book
― k3vin k., Friday, 9 December 2016 02:20 (nine years ago)
my son quit playing baseball and now I miss seeing tabitha soren around
― akm, Friday, 9 December 2016 02:34 (nine years ago)
I read a huge excerpt from it on VF: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/decision-science-daniel-kahneman-amos-tversky
Pretty good stuff although if you've read Thinking, Fast and Slow you probably know a lot of it already
― El Tomboto, Friday, 9 December 2016 02:57 (nine years ago)
almost every time i talk to my mom, she will bring up the time we saw Michael Lewis eating lunch at Cesar Berkeley. I think this was 3 years ago?
― sarahell, Friday, 9 December 2016 03:11 (nine years ago)
Apparently Michael Lewis has been working on a new crypto book built around a profile of Sam Bankman-Fried, currently at the center of the dramatic FTX crypto-currency meltdown. In other words, this book is going to be great.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 19:43 (three years ago)
Moneyball is about market inefficiencies; this book will be about imaginary markets
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 November 2022 19:47 (three years ago)
he's out of his depth
“They had a great real business. If no one had cast aspersions on the business, if there hadn’t been a run on customers deposits, they’d still be making tones of money”ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!! pic.twitter.com/VmSBvx9y1w— Sean Tuffy (@SMTuffy) October 2, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 00:24 (two years ago)
michael lewis lost a daughter two years ago in a horrible car accident and because of that I'm willing to extend a huge amount of sympathy toward him, but still, I don't know WTF he's thinking defending SBF
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 2 October 2023 00:46 (two years ago)
My Ponzi scheme would have been fine if I hadn't run out of new investors.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 2 October 2023 00:51 (two years ago)
I kinda assume that’s in response from him to this piece which specifically called him out for his credulity. And I think I want to read the book it’s from. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/zeke-faux-number-go-up-book-excerpt.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 04:08 (two years ago)
"number go up" looks great
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 14:56 (two years ago)
bought his book on the pandemic The Premonition but haven't read it yet.
― Stevo, Monday, 2 October 2023 19:26 (two years ago)
Seems like he wrote the new one before the arrests and couldn’t be bothered to change its thesis.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:47 (two years ago)
Lewis spoke about the lawsuit that Michael Oher, the young Black football player in The Blind Side, has filed against the Tuohys--Lewis's friends, and the white couple who took Oher in: [4] pic.twitter.com/zzi0LslSFV— Samanth Subramanian (@samanth_s) October 3, 2023
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:27 (two years ago)
🤔
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:36 (two years ago)
I'd be suspicious of any untrained lay person making a medical diagnosis of brain damage in someone they haven't recently spoken to, but there's no question that many former NFL players suffer from brain damage, so he's got a point.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:01 (two years ago)
he does not have a point
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:06 (two years ago)
Good thing he won't be called to testify then. Whew! Close call.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:15 (two years ago)
Oof.
https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/review-michael-lewiss-going-infinite
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:25 (two years ago)
Matt Levin today:
I am about halfway through Going Infinite, Michael Lewis' book about Sam Bankman-Fried, and I am very much enjoying it. Many of the reviews that I have read of the book complain that Lewis does not sufficiently explain that Bankman-Fried is Guilty and Bad, Actually, but that is not the book that he wanted to write or the one I want to read. He wanted to understand and explain Bankman-Fried's psychology and tell a good story. If you want to read a moral condemnation of crypto theft, you can get that anywhere. You go to Michael Lewis for character and story.Also, reading those reviews you would think that the book is a defense of Bankman-Fried, but it is actually quite damning.
Also, reading those reviews you would think that the book is a defense of Bankman-Fried, but it is actually quite damning.
― bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:44 (two years ago)
(Levine)
― bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:45 (two years ago)
He wanted to understand and explain Bankman-Fried's psychology and tell a good story.
About Sam Bankman-Fried, the bestest boy ever?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:54 (two years ago)
Ever wanna feel the magic of being swept up by the thrills of the criminal ring of a theiving fraudster? Forget the moralizing, that is EXACTLY what I needed, and this book delivered. Remember how good you felt when that nerd loser was actually good at fraud in Wolf of Wall St? It’s like that but extra credible because ~crypto~! 5 big tomatoes.
― i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:39 (two years ago)
haven't read the book, but I liked this New Yorker review
The book is not, as it turns out, a hagiography. Bankman-Fried is not portrayed as a hero. But he isn’t portrayed as an antihero, either. The book’s tone is one of tender beguilement, with the occasional flash of remonstrance; Lewis isn’t sympathetic, exactly, but he is defiantly open to evidence of Bankman-Fried’s innocence. Bankman-Fried does come off as a recognizable contrarian. But perhaps the most relevant contrarian subject in this magnificently ambiguous book is Lewis himself. Lewis likes to write about figures who survey the informational landscape, weigh the probabilities, and, under conditions of uncertainty, take expensive gambles—which is exactly what Lewis himself has done.
― jaymc, Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:39 (two years ago)
Lewis likes to write about figures who survey the informational landscape, weigh the probabilities, and, under conditions of uncertainty, take expensive gambles
Waiting for his Madoff book, Ponziball.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:15 (two years ago)
Just...my guy:
Lewis focused on the material benefits Oher got from the Tuohys. “Did you get a sense of how much money they spent on him when he was living with them? They bought him a truck. They bought him clothes. They housed him.” He continued: “There’s not a whiff of possibility the Tuohys are going to milk money off Michael Oher. You’ve gotta sort of know more about them. They’re rich. And generous. They aren’t stingy rich people. They’re openhanded rich people.”When I brought up aspects of his book that I believed were inaccurate — among them, that Oher barely knew how to play football when he first came to live with the Tuohys — Lewis said that he was confident that the people who witnessed Oher’s story in real time had provided him with an accurate account. I told him I had seen Terio Franklin’s house and that I did not think its description as a trailer that served as Oher’s temporary base camp was correct. “You should ask the Tuohys about that,” he replied.In a profile of Lewis in The Guardian last October, he seemed to attribute Oher’s “change of behavior,” as he put it, to chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or C.T.E., the degenerative brain disease that afflicts some football players, which can only be diagnosed after death, through a brain autopsy. “This is what happens to football players who get hit in the head,” he said. “They run into problems with violence and aggression.” Lewis told me his inference that Oher had C.T.E. was made in anger, and he regretted it, but he then repeated it. “It should be part of the conversation about Michael Oher,” he said.
When I brought up aspects of his book that I believed were inaccurate — among them, that Oher barely knew how to play football when he first came to live with the Tuohys — Lewis said that he was confident that the people who witnessed Oher’s story in real time had provided him with an accurate account. I told him I had seen Terio Franklin’s house and that I did not think its description as a trailer that served as Oher’s temporary base camp was correct. “You should ask the Tuohys about that,” he replied.
In a profile of Lewis in The Guardian last October, he seemed to attribute Oher’s “change of behavior,” as he put it, to chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or C.T.E., the degenerative brain disease that afflicts some football players, which can only be diagnosed after death, through a brain autopsy. “This is what happens to football players who get hit in the head,” he said. “They run into problems with violence and aggression.” Lewis told me his inference that Oher had C.T.E. was made in anger, and he regretted it, but he then repeated it. “It should be part of the conversation about Michael Oher,” he said.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 August 2024 16:35 (one year ago)
And on top of that!
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/michael-lewis-speaks-sam-bankman-181123549.html
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 August 2024 19:12 (one year ago)
i'm reading this now. lewis has a REALLY hard time relating to black people. the way he writes about oher and other "Blacks" is almost entirely anthropological, with him dimly wondering aloud why "they" don't think like him. i'm enjoying the book, but all of these moments are making me cringe. and let's not forget oher's white financial supporters, a husband who "doesn't know what race he is" and a wife who was brought up explicitly racist and talks about oher lovingly, but with the tone of "look at the beast." so so so weird.― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, September 25, 2006 11:17 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
some smart takes about the Tuohys in that other thread (though everyone else yelled at him)
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 20 August 2024 19:49 (one year ago)
I strongly suspect it occurred to Lewis that mmmmmaybe his next piece should be about people who aren't famous and actually do shit.
https://wapo.st/3Xr9usa
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 03:33 (one year ago)
well, it also seems like an extension of his 2018 book The Fifth Risk
― jaymc, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 03:37 (one year ago)
Oh I'm sure! But still, convenient.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 04:14 (one year ago)
I think Lewis’ best skill is describing and explaining the significance of arcane technical things.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 15:25 (one year ago)