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he has been on the same side as SMERSH since he first encountered blofeld! (ie official superpowers combine to combat master criminal running undersea -- or in-volcano -- rogue state)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

God I loved this movie. I generally despise this trend of making pop action movies 2 1/2 hours long, but the length was perfectly justified here. It almost felt lean. And the odd structure worked too. The third act ends, and then the film continues for another 20 minutes or so. Unusual, but it really solidified this as a James Bond character piece, which hit me just right. I've never had any sort of emotional attachment to a 007 film before. Blondie and hot naked girl from "The Dreamers" totally sold this.

― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

i still though 2.5 hours was too long

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

cosmo on the moneypenny about the connection between Bond and Vesper. First time I've ever seen what I thought was real chemistry in a 007 pic. Although I guess the point of that was so she could later betray him, then die, then finally turn out to actually have sacrificed herself for him and thus we see the origin of the steely sexual-user persona.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, they ran out of Fleming titles a while back - all the Brosnans have made-up names, I think.

Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's estate in Jamaica and "The World Is Not Enough" was the Bond family motto (as revealed in OHMSS)

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

"Steve McQueen-by-way-of-Universal Exports"
OTM

I loved the film, but I wonder how long they can keep up the Fleming-era bad guys. Our modern lot have no class, hiding in caves and using low-tech equipment. Drilling holes in mountains, that's what you want.

― stet (stet), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

So did anyone else notice that Craig was... uh... packing a weapon of significant caliber? Or was I imagining things? In any case: Hottest. Bond. Ever.

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

The title graphics were my favorite of any bond movie opening I've ever seen, especially the men falling apart into shapes when they were shot and the heart lines from the guns. Beautiful. I was highly disappointed in Vesper's evening wear, though. Actually, the only outfit on her that I really liked was the red dress she wore in Venice. The first Bond movie I ever saw in a movie theater that I really enjoyed, though, so not too bad.

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

He traded in the PPK for a .357 Magnum, Elmo?

― milo z (mlp), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

So did anyone else notice that Craig was... uh... packing a weapon of significant caliber? Or was I imagining things? In any case: Hottest. Bond. Ever.

-- elmo argonaut (elmo.oxyge...), November 18th, 2006 6:57 PM. (allocryptic) (later) (link)

...pushing a basket?

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Pushing a basket. A veritable grocery groin, one might say.

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

So did anyone else notice that Craig was... uh... packing a weapon of significant caliber?

I didn't notice anything in the scenes of him walking out of the ocean (I was too busy cursing his flat abs), but yeah, in the scene with M in Jamaica? Yeah.

― Joe Isuzu's Petals (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

that's really OTM re: the McQueen comparison. Dude's got that same combo of non-trad good looks and raw charisma. I don't know why anyone would prefer Brosnan over this guy.

― gear (gear), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

craignotbond.com has been closed for awhile too, from what i hear.

― gear (gear), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

craig has had his cock out in a number of films i think.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

he certainly gets it out in "Love Is The Devil".

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

NSFW COCK

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

damn that was supposed to be a link.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

NSFW COCK! http://rjr10036.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/danielcraignaked03.jpg

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

This movie was great. It's gotta be my favorite Bond to come out since I was old enough to pay attention (ca. License to Kill).

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

1. Daniel Craig is the best bond since Connery, no surprises there.
2. Obv this Bond spent many years mastering the Sony-Ericcson user interface. There are more cell phones in this movie than there are guns. He should just turn around and txt msg the camera in the intro instead of shooting it. Where the antagonists used to run out of bullets, they now find themselves "Searching..."
3. I wonder how Mr. M deals with pretending he doesn't sleep three feet away from a pop-up computer terminal that gives you access to all of MI5's dirty secrets and requires no authentication
4. For about thirty minutes I thought Bond was going to start making friends with animals and open his own jetski rental shop or some such shit. ATTENTION 007, QUIT FAFFING ABOUT WITH ANGEL TITS AND SHOOT SOMEONE. PLEASE. GOD.
5. Music was crap. Not just the theme tune. John Barry's tremendous contribution to the sound of awesome shit happening does not need updating with half-assed breakbeats or whatever. It needs to be big bold diminished chord vamps even louder than the machineguns and anything else is a waste of everyone's time. There are some things that are not broken; stop fixing them for fuck's sake.
6. Beginning: construction site smashup. End: same thing. This is broken; fix THAT.
7. I love that when he gets in scraps he now has to actually wear bandages and keeps cuts on his face for more than one scene. This DEFINITELY works for Daniel Craig, too, since he kind of looks like he's gotten in a fistfight every day since he was eleven anyway.
8. I know that Bond is a sociopathic narcissist. It is completely unnecessary to have he and his female companion discuss this fact. This is the 21st official Bond film; it's all well and good to fill out the backstory on this violent too-cool-for-the-room douchebag, but talking about how egocentric and reckless he is like, I don't know, those echo chamber threads where everybody's in a race to tell the world that war is bad.
9. I did like the backstory of Bond being a scholarship kid at Oxford and developing his utter contempt for rich fuckbags as a result. It was like when Ridley Scott finally just told the world that Deckard was a replicant.
10. Borat should be the next villain.

― DOCTOR METH KING (TOMBOT), Sunday, 19 November 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

hot naked girl from "The Dreamers"

Ah, thanks. I swear I sat through the whole movie thinking "Where the HELL do I know her from?" English accent + clothing threw me, I guess.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 19 November 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

10. [edit] Borat should be the head of SMERSH. Kind of like how in Unbreakable, where Bruce Willis + Samuel Jackson are complete polar opposites, destined to cancel each other out, Borat is the hirsute uberincompetent foil in a monstrous neon man-thong to 007's smooth player in navy speedo.

― DOCTOR METH KING (TOMBOT), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

The romantic interlude was kind of to the end-of-Return-of-the-King-hobbits-faffing level of DO NOT WANT, I was incredibly glad when that ended. Was it really necessary to have 30 minutes (?? at least?) of that? Other than that I have no complaints.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

is nobody going to talk about TESTICLE CONKERS!?!?!?

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

> 2. Obv this Bond spent many years mastering the Sony-Ericcson user interface. There are more cell phones in this movie than there are guns. He should just turn around and txt msg the camera in the intro instead of shooting it. Where the antagonists used to run out of bullets, they now find themselves "Searching..."

I actually thought it was funny - at least for those of us stuck on "The Wire" - that this super-sophistimacated international terrorism ring actually has LESS savvy wrt communication hygeine than some West Bawlmer dope slangas.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 19 November 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

The reason hold'em is a better game for the film than baccarat is that poker is a game of skil (with a large element of fortune) and baccarat is a game of pure luck. I haven't seen it yet (Richmond Odeon, 2.50 this afternoon, woo!) so I don't know if skill comes into it but the reasoning's sound.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Sunday, 19 November 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

which scene do they play "The Look of Love" in?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

it was considerate of bond not to close the lid of M's laptop completely and stop all her torrents.

exotica bosom-babe galloping stiff-backed down the beach with little children giddily chasing behind was laugh-out-loud awesome

so much was great

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

can't wait to see this.

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

Undoubtedly better than the last three, but I don't know if it was any better than Goldeneye (which, satellite laser aside, was no more gimmicky than this one). Definitely pales in comparison to the Bourne films.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

And the odd structure worked too.

It's from the book. Just saw it and have been avoiding the thread until now. Much said upthread I totally agree with but in sum -- Dalton was the best 'literary' Bond before now but Craig is up there and if the next film is in the same vein will cement it. Too long, totally agree with Ally/Tom that the googie-eyes bits killed the pacing for a bit (not helped by my wanting to hit the restroom BADLY by then), otherwise way the hell better than I expected, a great series reboot. My guess that this was their version of Batman Begins essentially OTM except that this was a better action film than that was.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

no more gimmicky than this one

Weakest 'action' part of the film because of gimmicks -- the cardiac arrest part. "Hey, it looks like he's going into cardiac arrest, he has this poison, he ate eggs for breakfast this morning and that mole on his back is flaking." Felt beamed in from another movie and especially jarring given how effective the overexposed bathroom scene right before it was. Necessary for the plot in the end but not in the way it was handled. Still, I'll give it a miss.

The "Military Intelligence" wallpaper made me roffle a bit. Who knew?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

exotica bosom-babe galloping stiff-backed down the beach with little children giddily chasing behind was laugh-out-loud awesome

The Harlequin Romance moment, yes. Or the Billy Ocean video moment if you like. Or Tina Turner.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

The opening title graphics. Cool enough to offset the anonymous Chris Cornell song.

As friend Ben said, 'lounge grunge' -- me in response: "Lunge?"

Definitely did like the way they introduced the 'view down a barrel of a gun' moment this time around -- first time ever they HAVEN'T done that. Also liked how the pre-credits adventure was turned into the post-credits one and given more room to go all over the place with in favor of the quick backstory setup.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

HAVEN'T done that = haven't done that as the opening frames. It was actually kind of surprising not to hear *the* theme in full until the very end credits, but it suits the final line.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

The "Military Intelligence" wallpaper made me roffle a bit. Who knew?

in modern classified environments where everyone has an ESPN/Hotmail terminal next to their UMBRANET and FUBARNET and SUMBITCH.NAVMILK operator consoles, you actually have shit like this, arguably so that you don't accidentally relay the daily blackops anecdotes to yr coworkers via the wrong e-mail server.

― DOCTOR METH KING (TOMBOT), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

You know, you put it that way and now I'm not surprised at all.

Most jarring moment -- a FORD? Thank god he traded up as quickly as possible.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

by the end he is angry and worldsick and vengeful and humiliated and -- i think -- thrown back into cynical commitment once more (ie the joke HERE is that what catapults him back into being the old full-on anti-SMERSH bond is, again see above, the heartbreaking honour of one SMERSH agent and the casual lifesaving decency of another)

it's such a great book!

Reading this through, I think they encapsulated that as well as they could in this plot.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think a many of my quibbles -- the Ford, the love story -- are down to the dissonance between Bond-movie-expectations and it being a reboot. If you grant that he's still naive and falling in love, driving a crap car etc it works a bit better.

Cardiac arrest thing jarred with me too, but then I realised it arguably makes more sense to have a basic albeit high-tech medical kit in your car as opposed to a super-high-tech device that only has one conceivable, and extremely unlikely use (which will pop up in ten minutes). The transmission thing was bollocks tho.

― stet (stet), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

That Ford was pretty hot (for a Ford). Hope they bring it to the states.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

I realised it arguably makes more sense to have a basic albeit high-tech medical kit in your car

Yeah, that makes sense, I agree.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, if you wanted to have real fun with continuity/lack thereof, an easy answer for the purposes of the films: 'James Bond' is always a pseudonym as much as 007; Craig is a relatively newly promoted agent who gets the Bond/007 identity as part of his line of work; we're not stepping back in the current M/Bond timeline so much as creating a new one with a newly attendant dynamic. I refuse to think seriously about this any further lest I end up writing fanfic or worse.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

John Barry's tremendous contribution to the sound of awesome shit happening does not need updating with half-assed breakbeats or whatever.

I admit when I saw David Arnold's name in the credits I winced.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

'James Bond' is always a pseudonym as much as 007; Craig is a relatively newly promoted agent who gets the Bond/007 identity as part of his line of work;

James Bond: [to the camera] This never happened to the other fellow.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahah. George's prime moment.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Felix Leiter is *still* the Outclassed CIA Guy.

More's the pity -- I didn't even realize that was Jeffrey Wright!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that guy is a chameleon. I've only seen a few of those, but Basquiat -->Belize-->Felix Leiter is a pretty damn good range. I've also seen Celebrity but don't remember his character.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

The more I look over the IMDB list the more I'm impressed with the range of actors they got in, even if the roles were at points thankless. Giancarlo Giannini as Mathis, Isaach de Bankole is Obanno (the African armed group leader), Jesper Christensen as Mr. White...not quite the ensemble group dynamic of From Russia With Love but still.

Mads Mikkelsen did pretty well as Le Chiffre precisely because of two factors in the script rather than his own pretty good performance: 1) no time wasted on his backstory, 2) carrying over from the book the fact that he's as much under severe pressure as 'in charge.'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

I loved how fast his expression changed at the end of the torture scene when dude walked in with the gun.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

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