"Uh Gus tells what he is going to do, Ted dies, Walt realizes he's fucked, I'd say there is a fair amount of reveal in this EP."
These are all major plot points that to some extent could be anticipated by anyone who watches the show. I'm talking about the sudden whiplash twists and turns that this show usually excels at. Walt has ALWAYS been fucked and how many scenes have there been with Gus telling us "what he is going to so". As for Ted dying, I personally guessed he would have some kind of accident right before this episode (my guess was that it would be something to do with his new car, if you're interested). The ending seemed uncharacteristic in its over-reliance on generating atmosphere formally when each episode usually provides a dece cliffhanger, is all I'm saying.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
Still better than anything else on TV, though I still have Pan Am to watch.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't read the whole thread above to see if anyone else has made this same conclusion, but my wife is convinced that Ted made a deal with the IRS and was wearing a wire (or had his house bugged) for that whole episode in order to set up Skyler.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)
Walt should start using meth, it'd make all this moral quandary shit a lot easier to deal with
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
To have spent at least 30 minutes in a situation where a minute costs thousands of dollars, just so you have a master shot where the cloud comes in and leaves again...
Also now I am being really snarky, but you know it's a breeze to do this in post? haha
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
hadnt thought of that xxp, it would sorta make sense as to why he was so severely downplaying skylars whole "going to prison" pronouncements but it would really be from left field if that type of hueg thing was left unmentioned & now sprung next wk or whenever
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
Assuming they don't actually know she's involved with money laundering, why would the IRS make a deal with the dude who owes them hundreds of thousands of dollars just to catch his accountant?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
But now Walt has fucked with Gus's plan to kill Hank, no? Gus is smart enough to understand who gave the feds a heads up. So minus escape with different identities ... unless Walt can convince Jesse to pay for his escape ...
how walt gets within 1 mile of jesse at this point is anybody's guess
gah sunday so far away
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
yeah the IRS trying to bust skylar doesn't make much sense, but if ted's house *was* bugged and the IRS recorded his convo w/ saul's guys, skylar is in big big trouble
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
Also how's this as a prediction for the end of this show? ---> Jessie to end up teaching high school chemistry. I mean, he really knows his stuff now, right? Well, not well enough to cook but well enough to teach high school chemistry.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
xp - yeah, all of sudden Skylar looks like Mrs. Big. Maybe that could be interesting, if she took a fall for Walt.
By the way, here is a question for y'all -
Are Walt and Skylar still in love?
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
OK now I am getting into this thread, I see
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
I guess the "Ted wearing a wire" thing was just a hunch from when he seemed to use such careful, precise language in saying he was NOT blackmailing her, as if he was being listened to. Shot in the dark.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
But yeah there's a lot about that which doesn't make sense, like WHAT else exactly would he be trying to get her to do/say?
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
Also, they just dubbed over the dialogue for that scene, so they could have easily had stand-ins sitting around while the digital camera whirred.
Clearly, if Ted is dead he's going to be a problem. Local businessman dies the same day his $600K check is mailed to the IRS? Anyway, Ted is a dead red herring. Walt has bigger fish to fry, because yeah, I don't think Gus was bluffing. He just murdered a dozen capos and dons in Mexico.
And there was no way Ted was wearing a wire just to catch Skyler.
Ending of this ep was a no way out sort of tipping point. There was always a fail safe - running - but now that option is gone. Really, I'm at a loss how this show can spin this out for as many episodes as it has left.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:26 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
smh
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
well, we will see won't we, some dude
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno, this show's raison d'etre is painting its characters into corners and then pulling them out, the current situation will change in a hurry I'm sure... xxxp
re: walt and skylar in love... if you watch the extended preview of the next eps on the AMC site, it's a pretty tender scene between them where walt lays it out
I have lived under the threat of death for a year now. and because of that I made choices. I alone should suffer the consequences of those choices, no one else. and those consequences are coming. no more prolonging the inevitable.
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
I think that would be a pretty radical way for the show to end, for everything to return to some degree of surface normalcy, because that's like the last place you can see them getting to at this point and it is almost hard to remember what it was like. I'd be more satisfied with that then "oh everybuddy dyes"
xp
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
Hmm if Gus does indeed put the hit on the White family it could be very easily spun as cartel payback for Hank. So yeah, I guess there really is nothing standing in the way of that happening, should Gus so choose.
Basically, we can speculate all we want but this:
walter white backed into a corner is walter white doing something fucking mental, he's proven this all the way through.
is OTM
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
I keep flashing back to one of those first conversations Walt has with Gus, where he shows a pretty strong grasp of long-game strategy re: the cartels. That Walt has been unable to think long term since then has been a facet of his narcissistic myopia, which manifests itself as sloppy desperation. I would guess at some point the show will reunite/realign him with Jesse, and that's how it will play out.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
I feel strongly also that ricin cigarette has a part to play in the denouement of this season.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
jesse accidentally smokes it, dies
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
badger becomes gus' new meth cook
walt moves into a winnebago in the desert
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
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uhhhh the fact that he cooked a batch without Walt was a specific plot point this week.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think he knows anything about chemistry apart from how to cook
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
yeah that was made pretty clear in his scene w/ the cartel chemist
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
"A robot?"
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
This batch could be TERRIBLE for all we know!!!
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
it was tested for purity
I'm actually waiting for something to get fucked up in the lab and jesse can't fix it, something as simple as that could bring walt right back into the picture
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
he cooked one in Mexico that was perfect
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
I'm assuming they run the same purity tests in the US lab
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)
rmde at anyone who thinks jesse can teach high school chemistry
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:49 AM (2 minutes ago)
Are you even watching this show?
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think the Mexico batch was as pure as walt's. Gayle was talking about the purity in an earlier episode flashback.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
a protein is made up of polypeptides bitch
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
The secret ingredient is RAGE!!!!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:43 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yep, you know what they say abt a poison cigarette in the first act
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
"I don't think the Mexico batch was as pure as walt's. Gayle was talking about the purity in an earlier episode flashback."
Yeah, wasn't Walt's like 99% pure or something? Gayle was saying he could only guarantee 96%, right, which was what Jesse hit.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
noticed that, fn stupid cartel cant even cook 96%, keep their lab clean
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
Dirty lazy mexicans need a American high school dropout to show 'em how to do it.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
Taking their jobs!
― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
"Are you even watching this show?"
Yes, are you?
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
The filthy lab thing totally made me think of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares where he walks into a place for the first time.
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
meth lab nightmares, would screen
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
"You need to giving your customers FRESH LOCAL METH!"
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
RUSTIC METH served with LOVE
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
Ramsay coaching Badger how to slang.
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)
― uhhhhhh (admrl), Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^^ key
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)