Yeah, and the person upthread who said Walt now resembles a meth head is otm. Skyler's house was the one place in the show that was predictably a safe haven (even with Gus's hard men hanging round out the front).
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
Pretty convinced that the season will end w/ Walt saving Hank's ass and "allying himself" (but not really) w/ the DEA for protection. At least, that's the most plausible way out for him I can come up with.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
That would be a mad setup for the final series. Wow.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:34 (fourteen years ago)
holding out hope for "everybody dies"
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:12 (fourteen years ago)
Probably been mentioned itt but I did wonder whether the DEA's very solidly in cahoots with Fring, and that that's the reason Hank can't get his case up.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:16 (fourteen years ago)
Just wanted to point out that it was totally an allusion to a coffin there at the end. What walt felt or forshadowing.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)
no way, there's no money in coffins and you don't put them underneath a house
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:35 (fourteen years ago)
good point
― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:47 (fourteen years ago)
hes running because he wants to retain the ability to blackmail her, if he can stop the check & call the police then ... he would succeed?
― sorry for party blogging (D-40), Monday, September 26, 2011 10:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the heavies reaction to ted bolting and his subsequent death was lolz all around
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:49 (fourteen years ago)
haha the explanation to saul was extra lol
― sorry for party blogging (D-40), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:54 (fourteen years ago)
Man that ending was so Lynch that I expected Skyler to start clawing at her face with her right hand.
― Dan I., Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)
I think I was watching a different episode from many people on this thread. I thought that episode was a complete tease and tremendously frustrating, the ending in particular. And I do love this show but it has started to annoy me. That said, I enjoyed last week a lot so hopefully there will be good things to come.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:15 (fourteen years ago)
The biggest wtf was Walt's panicked visit to Saul being played for (admittedly dark) laughs when it could have actually been genuinely tense. I did not understand that at all.
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)
btw totally glad ted is dead, found his scenes nearly unbearable even by the uncomfortable standards of this show
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:18 (fourteen years ago)
I thought that episode was a complete tease and tremendously frustrating, the ending in particular.
whaaaaaat, this whole year has been a tease from start to finish
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:30 (fourteen years ago)
lol'd so hard at dead ted
trying to blackmail skylar while simultaneously woundedly denying that hes trying to blackmail skylar is so completely w/in ted's character that it seems hard to read any other way idk
i dont really care who dies or w/e i just want to know what happens next
― señorita buttstench (Lamp), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:41 (fourteen years ago)
as if jesse's life isn't hard enough he has to play sonic 2006 as well
― cozen, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 06:47 (fourteen years ago)
Can I just say that the scene with Gus telling a tied-up Walt what the fuck was going on was a piece of directoral and cinematographic brilliance? But in the most beautiful, simple, craftsmanlike way.
When you shoot in the west/southwest desert on a day like that, where, if you get the polarizer just right, the sky is a deep blue and the clouds are these gorgeous, imaginary-looking things, the one problem is that there's no real way to predict when a cloud will pass over your main action. You just hope that you get everything in the same light, because the difference between cloud and full sun is so stark that it's impossible to cut between one and the other. To have spent at least 30 minutes in a situation where a minute costs thousands of dollars, just so you have a master shot where the cloud comes in and leaves again...
The level of planning, forethought, and expertise that goes into assuring that that scene is not only saved from being reshot or jury-rigged in editing, but that it actually adds something to the vocabulary of cinematography on TV, is something that I aspire to, at my very best, every day I get my hands on a camera.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 07:30 (fourteen years ago)
better yet
...
holy shit
Thing is, Ted was being blundering and fucking moronically stupid and self-destructive in EXACTLY the same way as Walt in this episode. Like, you KNOW it's game over. You are completely fucked. You are going to jail, or you are being driven out into the desert by a psychopathic drug dealer with a bag over your head. And then at the very last minute, you're offered a precious lifeline you'd previously have given everything for. And you throw it back in their face, you're stupid enough to believe that against all logic, you can take everything back. Then you realise you're really really fucked, and you try to run away. And you fuck it up. And then you're REALLY fucked.
Nice touch on the writers' part, I thought.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:43 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrGc9-UwCXg
thankfully ted's death is now on youtube lmao
― sorry for party blogging (D-40), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:21 (fourteen years ago)
WHERE IS THE GIF?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:30 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno, but:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrua8glh2k1qhtqtjo1_250.gif
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrua8glh2k1qhtqtjo2_250.gif
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:40 (fourteen years ago)
the godfather oranges mean that he's dead
― anorange (abanana), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:18 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously if they can't tell a dead man when they see one then Saul has hired the most inept heavies in the world.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:24 (fourteen years ago)
Yes! Totally!
Was there music at the end? Because it read as so Lynch to me that I've superimposed creepy Lynch music over my memory of the last scene.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:16 (fourteen years ago)
There was creepy Lynch air vent drone, I thought. Or buzzing ants.
I did appreciate that even under duress Walt was completely shifty around Saul. "They're going to kill my family!" Well, no, Walt, only if you don't take the generous lifeline and leave Jesse and the operation alone. But of course he can't do that, because Walt thinks the "operation" is his.
Odds on Marie, not Hank, getting killed this season are high. Which would further motivate Walt to help Hank and/or the DEA, though I don't want them to twist Walt into something remotely sympathetic, because he's not. Walt is one of the all-time biggest assholes.
The death of Marie would also bring the babysitting crisis into the foreground. LOL at Hank telling Walt he has his hands full these days "with the car wash." But of course not with THE NEWBORN BABY, or the CANCER, or the special needs son who one of these days is going to have to start shopping for COLLEGE. But yeah, that car wash.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:21 (fourteen years ago)
It sounded like a jacked up thx sound.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:21 (fourteen years ago)
There was a weird sorta hearbeat noise that turned into a drone
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:24 (fourteen years ago)
It's more because they're going to kill his brother in law. No matter how debased his morality his, Walt isn't going to allow that to happen if he can prevent it.
I can definitely see Marie dying, good call. Gus too maybe, or at least a nice long coma that gives them a bit of breathing space.
I think Gus has definitely underestimated Jesse, or overvalued his loyalty. Look how happy his homelife suddenly seemed. No way is he going to agree to cook for the dude who ordered the murder or Walt's entire family, including a baby. His main loyalty is to Mike, not Gus, we saw that in the scene with the doctors, and he's still carrying that ricin around him...
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)
I did appreciate that even under duress Walt was completely shifty around Saul. "They're going to kill my family!" Well, no, Walt, only if you don't take the generous lifeline and leave Jesse and the operation alone.
TBF, he has to leave Jesse and the operation alone and let Gus kill Hank. Gus explicitly threatened to murder the family if Walt interfered with Gus's plans for Hank.
I was thinking about the people I would hate to see die on this show, and kind of surprisingly, Marie was high on that list. I will be really bummed out if Marie dies. I'm fond of her neuroses and her purple.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)
I would be least sad if Skylar died. I hate to say it, but I could do without having to look at Anna Gunn's weird mask of a face anymore.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:47 (fourteen years ago)
"I thought that episode was a complete tease and tremendously frustrating, the ending in particular."
Uh Gus tells what he is going to do, Ted dies, Walt realizes he's fucked, I'd say there is a fair amount of reveal in this EP.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:52 (fourteen years ago)
yup, and an amazing setup for the final two episodes
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
"I did appreciate that even under duress Walt was completely shifty around Saul."
He wasn't shifty so much as he's losing his mind. And as Jenny points out the lifeline is only good if he let's Hank die which Walt clearly isn't prepared to do.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
But now Walt has fucked with Gus's plan to kill Hank, no? Gus is smart enough to understand who gave the feds a heads up. So minus escape with different identities ... unless Walt can convince Jesse to pay for his escape ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:56 (fourteen years ago)
Oh yeah, that would make sense. Jesse would do it, too.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:57 (fourteen years ago)
Not to pick on you admrl or imply that your reaction isn't genuine, but I thought it was incredibly tense. Saul trying and failing to do his usual breezy routine in the face of Walt's crisis, and seeing Saul actually become desperately worried, was petrifying
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:58 (fourteen years ago)
"But now Walt has fucked with Gus's plan to kill Hank, no?"
Imagine that's part of why Walt is laughing in his crawl space.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:01 (fourteen years ago)
Gus doesn't explicitly say to Walt that he's going to kill Hank. He only said he was going to deal with it, which of course could mean killing Hank but that also allows the writers some leeway with where to go. For example, Gus informing Hank that Walt has been working for him behind his back and use that to try and blackmail him into his services to keep the DEA off or staying away altogether.
― Bastards of Young Dro, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:03 (fourteen years ago)
maybe gus ends up in the care home in a wheechair next to thingy but with a kazoo instead of a bell
― conrad, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)
Alternative is that Walt goes on the "Dirty Harry" warpath but I think that could be ridiculous. We still don't know how Mike will fit into the story, either.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:18 (fourteen years ago)
Mike is going to enjoy his vacay in Mexico.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:21 (fourteen years ago)
...and?
No way is he going to agree to cook for the dude who ordered the murder or Walt's entire family, including a baby.
Gus hasn't actually done this, he just said it to put the frighteners into a Walt who was too damn dumb to take the opportunity to protect them
yeah, the blackmail scene was horrible to watch bcz of her stiff unmoving face and shiny dolly eyes
shakey tyler
― robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
:( Her eyes were weird and hard to look at. I said as much to Jeff and then I felt bad because I've been so adamantly pro-Skyler from the beginning.
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
I very much doubt that Gus wouldn't follow through on that threat if provoked.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
If you search Google for "Anna Gunn" the first three autocorrect suggestions are "plastic surgery," "pregnancy," and "weight gain." :( :( :(
― pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
oh for sure, but he hasn't actually put an order out, and I don't think he wants to. (though it doesn't matter whether he does or not.) he was using it to end-run around Walt's "ha ha Jesse told you not to kill me, I can tell! it's all about me! me me me!"
― robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah that was probably the stupidest thing Walt's ever done. Like, it genuinely didn't occur to him that Gus could endanger his family, because he hadn't thought about it for one second.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
cos he's gone mental
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)