Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

he's fairly consistently tried to protect hank though

a simple 'this just doesnt feel right' prob wouldve sufficed in place of the car crash

did anybody's stomach drop when walt jr was like "I'll drive you around!"

walt's

for reals

nope. pretty obvs that was not gonna happen!

next week, cut to ted in a hospital bed planning his revenge against skylar

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We still don't have a proper reason for him refusing to pay the tax fine. I was left with the impression that he was very much hiding something when he wouldn't take the cheque (i.e. not just blackmail, not just looking after his family), so it'd be nice for us to find out somehow what that's all about.

i wondered about that possibility aswell.

This was the best unexpected death scene by Chris Cousins since his work on Terriers.

was ted just playing hardball to get more cash?

This episode was just ridiculously good. I honestly think this is now the most exciting TV I have ever seen.

But what an inconvenient time for Gus's main enforcer to be in medical care in Mexico. I don't think he's in a position to follow through on his threat, especially if a load of his dudes walk into a DEA trap and get shot/arrested. Assuming he can't stick his own head up above the parapet, because he'll get caught, the only person left is... Jesse. Oh shit.

Also I think Gus knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he paraded Jesse in front of Hector going "this guy killed your last remaining relative". If there are still more bad Mexican drug dudes out there that Hector can call upon, then Gus has something he can hold over Jesse.

Ted is, literally, too stupid to live. Did it not occur to him that if he didn't pay the fine he'd have no business, a load of bank debt AND be in prison? "Well, if I pay it I'll still have loads of debt and no business so what's the point?" is such idiocy. But he's probably not dead, and the very first thing Walt & Skylar will do is go round there.

Do people really think he's not dead? I thought the twitch sort of confirmed the neck breakage.

That and the scene in Saul's office afterwards, of course.

So can we agree that Hank definitely knows about Walt's involvement now, and that he's just going after evidence to confirm what he already knows?

Also, I'm wondering what would happen if Jesse had to choose between Mr White's life and the lives of Gus, Mike, et al. If it became clear that Walt and his family were about to be murdered, would he make a move to stop it? And doesn't he still have the ricin capsule?

and the fact the check was mailed
xp

cheque*

gtfo britisher

come on, hank still knows nothing about walt

yeah, i'm pretty sure he has no idea about that. there would have been some sort of insert shot with a 'look' if he did.

Ted's alive and Walt will kill him by turning him from his side to his back while he sleeps.

Okay so let's say Ted's dead, his cheque makes it to internal revenue and Skyler's off the hook. That last point won't matter if Walt "disappears" her, and if indeed the tax cheque is paid and everything is well in Ted land then that whole subplot may as well have not happened (Walt's "OHHH NOOO" moment with the lack of cash could have been contrived any number of simple ways). No. I think there's one last thing to be revealed about Ted. He was hiding something big.

hank knowing about walt would be a rubbish reveal

xp I dunno, given all that has happened thus far, the whole 'Skyler gives Ted the money' subplot seems like a neat way of getting that money spent without Walt's knowledge. Plus as was said upthread, this now means that Skyler has blood on her hands (sort of).

I think Ted has served his purpose, there is enough crazy shit going on without the writers then dropping the bombshell that oh my god Beneke's was owned by Madrigal and Ted was Gus's boss/lover or whatever.

The one thing I can't get past is Skyler asking Ted if it was blackmail and Ted insisting it wasn't. His response doesn't check out at all for me. There wasn't even a quick pause or eye movement to indicate he was lying.

Then again, it's not out of character for this show to build up something and then drop it with some sudden death.

he was blackmailing tho...that's why he didn't take the cash i reckon, cos he thought he'd get more. seems the only sensible reason. and his own reasoning wasn't entirely wrong, why take just enough to leave him bankrupt when he can see what happens if he doesn't take it. he just had no idea there was gonna be criminal thugs calling around 5 mins later.

yep

death was extra funny because where did he think he was going

he was blackmailing tho...that's why he didn't take the cash i reckon

That would make sense and wrap up the plot reasonably neatly, but (a) he could have just said "yes I'm blackmailing you" but didn't, (b) why would he try running from the thugs after signing the cheque and (c) with Ted dead without consequence that's a hell of a lot of subplot to indulge in just to leave Walt in the lurch in episode 11.

(a) he was being wily in a dumb ted way (b) he was being courageous in a dumb ted way (c) so

Did Saul and the A-Team say something about the check being mailed afterward in Saul's office? Because Ted went klonk right after the check was written.

yeah they did

"check's in the mail at least"

There's a slight chance Jesse could die before the end (he was supposed to die in the first season iirc). Walt, no chance.

amazing episode obv

"are you happy?"
"reasonably"

funniest ep yet

"does the laundry have to be dirty?"
"nope."

"can't say it's been a pleasure"

the last shot pulling away from walt framed by the floor hole was ridic

Ted still owes money to the IRS. money which now will never be paid. unless all that talk about the mercedes was for nothing?

but he's dead

and the cheque's in the post at least

yeah the IRS is paid, that plot line is probably not an issue now.

no, the total amount was not paid. it's minus the mercedes lease. just saying.

yeah, but who would they go after for that money?

the amt he was gonna "return" 2 skylar was minus the mercedes lease. i think the amt the a-team made him write was xactly what the irs was owed. even if it wasnt, if hes dead, irs will get w/e he owes from w/e assets he does still have probably

no, the total amount was not paid. it's minus the mercedes lease. just saying.

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So? The difference can just be peeled off Walt's stash under the... wait.

xp yeah, I thought they got him to pay the whole amount. Not sure how that would work if he didn't have any money.

ted's death was hilar & one of the best parts of the season. the foreshadowing where he trips over the rug earlier was so good -- i was like, haha what a funny detail to include to show how inept he is, then it turned out it was even ~more~

and yeah he was obv blackmailing skyler! how do u miss that

Ted, being stupid and sleazy, was trying his best to couch it as anything but blackmail. And totes, when he tripped over the rug the first time, my thought was, hmm, what an odd detail.

But if you're a tax scofflaw and you suddenly come up with $600K cash to pay of you debt, won't the IRS look into the source of that money?

Great episode. How will they keep this up? This is like the last third of "GoodFellas," except they have to stretch it out the rest of the season and the final season, too. Unless this is secretly the final season.

i will admit im in the minority who could see them killing walter before jesse at this point

i dont think they'll do either, though

are we maybe witnessing a swing of sympathy TOWARDS Walter and away from Gus -- obv at some level the past several episodes have you cheering for the disciplined underdog w/ Gus vs. cartel .... mike & jesse on his team ... while walter flails embarrassingly. but now ... if gus is going to kill hank and walt is really concerned about this our sympathies could easily & radically swing back towards walt imo

the foreshadowing where he trips over the rug earlier was so good -- i was like, haha what a funny detail to include to show how inept he is, then it turned out it was even ~more~

Ted tripping over the rug was obviously a setup for a later incident, how do u miss that

Also I never said it definitely wasn't blackmail, I'm asking the question because a couple of circumstances surrounding it don't fit neatly imo, and this series in particular has been so tightly controlled that nothing ever doesn't fit neatly.

its easy to think that him tripping over the rug was just a show-dont-tell way of underlining that hes an inept bumbling idiot