Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

i would bet my house on walt living but could see them killing jesse.

if walt or jesse die it's not going to be this season

Tyrus is probably going to die though.

It seems like Walt legitimately has a chance to get out of the game now, but he's going to miss it because he has been misreading Gus all season.

Tyrus is probably going to die though.

Yeah, bad time to be a goon. I hope Saul's guys survive.

yeah like..why is walt saying his family are going to die, etc...does he just not trust gus, cos gus only made that threat as an "if you don't do what you're told" type thing.

gus told walt if he tries to interfere w/ hank getting whacked his family is on the line, walt is trying to save hank + his own fam

It seems like Walt legitimately has a chance to get out of the game now, but he's going to miss it because he has been misreading Gus all season.

― polyphonic, Monday, September 26, 2011 3:55 PM (3 minutes ago)

as always it's his stupid ego - the baddest of badasses is basically saying "you're free to go" and he responds with "ha! you still need me! or I'd be dead right now! I win!"

yeah like..why is walt saying his family are going to die, etc...does he just not trust gus, cos gus only made that threat as an "if you don't do what you're told" type thing.

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, September 26, 2011 3:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that would require him letting hank be murdered

Ted's death was comic gold.

― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, September 26, 2011 7:35 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

This. I know it was very coen-bros dark slapstick, but i loled pretty hard.

really want to see walt cop it

yeah i see it's cos of hank, just that i dunno, seems like a slightly weird timeline of events.

A bit of a lift from the death on the staircase in "Out of Sight," but no less funny. (re Ted's head-klonk)

made sense to me tho gus divulging his plan to kill hank to walt seemed like a "supervillain explains his entire plan to james bond" mechanism

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i forgot about that! still lolzy though.

the oranges falling made me think of The Godfather, only in a sad, undignified way

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in fairness the bit where gus told walt about his plan for hank was possibly him losing his sense a bit in the face of walt's resistance...

speaking of Gus divulging things, it seems like visiting Tio Hector to boast about killing his family might not be a great idea

the whole "NO NOT HANK" thing is crazy contrived to me because dude just almost got him killed in a car wreck and who among us would doubt that walt would TOTALLY shoot hank in the face if he was caught red handed.

I think walt doesn't want hank to die

dunno, i think walt likes hank. he had a look of sadness when hank spoke about getting the "gimp mobile" etc.

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not better off ted

the whole "NO NOT HANK" thing is crazy contrived to me because dude just almost got him killed in a car wreck and who among us would doubt that walt would TOTALLY shoot hank in the face if he was caught red handed.

― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Monday, September 26, 2011 4:24 PM (2 minutes ago)

if he hadn't got in that car wreck they would've both ended up floating in barrels

walt likes hank but the by any means necessary motif has really been the way he's played for the past few years

also, please to note that the car hit the passenger side when walt swung the wheel

he's fairly consistently tried to protect hank though

a simple 'this just doesnt feel right' prob wouldve sufficed in place of the car crash

did anybody's stomach drop when walt jr was like "I'll drive you around!"

walt's

for reals

nope. pretty obvs that was not gonna happen!

next week, cut to ted in a hospital bed planning his revenge against skylar

― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 02:35 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

We still don't have a proper reason for him refusing to pay the tax fine. I was left with the impression that he was very much hiding something when he wouldn't take the cheque (i.e. not just blackmail, not just looking after his family), so it'd be nice for us to find out somehow what that's all about.

i wondered about that possibility aswell.

This was the best unexpected death scene by Chris Cousins since his work on Terriers.

was ted just playing hardball to get more cash?

This episode was just ridiculously good. I honestly think this is now the most exciting TV I have ever seen.

But what an inconvenient time for Gus's main enforcer to be in medical care in Mexico. I don't think he's in a position to follow through on his threat, especially if a load of his dudes walk into a DEA trap and get shot/arrested. Assuming he can't stick his own head up above the parapet, because he'll get caught, the only person left is... Jesse. Oh shit.

Also I think Gus knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he paraded Jesse in front of Hector going "this guy killed your last remaining relative". If there are still more bad Mexican drug dudes out there that Hector can call upon, then Gus has something he can hold over Jesse.

Ted is, literally, too stupid to live. Did it not occur to him that if he didn't pay the fine he'd have no business, a load of bank debt AND be in prison? "Well, if I pay it I'll still have loads of debt and no business so what's the point?" is such idiocy. But he's probably not dead, and the very first thing Walt & Skylar will do is go round there.

Do people really think he's not dead? I thought the twitch sort of confirmed the neck breakage.

That and the scene in Saul's office afterwards, of course.

So can we agree that Hank definitely knows about Walt's involvement now, and that he's just going after evidence to confirm what he already knows?

Also, I'm wondering what would happen if Jesse had to choose between Mr White's life and the lives of Gus, Mike, et al. If it became clear that Walt and his family were about to be murdered, would he make a move to stop it? And doesn't he still have the ricin capsule?

and the fact the check was mailed
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cheque*

gtfo britisher

come on, hank still knows nothing about walt

yeah, i'm pretty sure he has no idea about that. there would have been some sort of insert shot with a 'look' if he did.

Ted's alive and Walt will kill him by turning him from his side to his back while he sleeps.

Okay so let's say Ted's dead, his cheque makes it to internal revenue and Skyler's off the hook. That last point won't matter if Walt "disappears" her, and if indeed the tax cheque is paid and everything is well in Ted land then that whole subplot may as well have not happened (Walt's "OHHH NOOO" moment with the lack of cash could have been contrived any number of simple ways). No. I think there's one last thing to be revealed about Ted. He was hiding something big.

hank knowing about walt would be a rubbish reveal

xp I dunno, given all that has happened thus far, the whole 'Skyler gives Ted the money' subplot seems like a neat way of getting that money spent without Walt's knowledge. Plus as was said upthread, this now means that Skyler has blood on her hands (sort of).

I think Ted has served his purpose, there is enough crazy shit going on without the writers then dropping the bombshell that oh my god Beneke's was owned by Madrigal and Ted was Gus's boss/lover or whatever.

The one thing I can't get past is Skyler asking Ted if it was blackmail and Ted insisting it wasn't. His response doesn't check out at all for me. There wasn't even a quick pause or eye movement to indicate he was lying.

Then again, it's not out of character for this show to build up something and then drop it with some sudden death.

he was blackmailing tho...that's why he didn't take the cash i reckon, cos he thought he'd get more. seems the only sensible reason. and his own reasoning wasn't entirely wrong, why take just enough to leave him bankrupt when he can see what happens if he doesn't take it. he just had no idea there was gonna be criminal thugs calling around 5 mins later.

yep

death was extra funny because where did he think he was going