for a minute there before gus told walt he's gonna cap hank and the situation was just like go away and never bother us or jesse again I thought walt was gonna be like enterering the void of oh what now the prospect of being at home with the baby and helping out at the car wash he was just gonna be *bored* and miss the meth-cooking criminal conspiracy lifestyle bit like a henry hill I guess and kinda begs the question why gus told him about hank insteada just pullin the trigger but then I guess this is the story
― conrad, Monday, 26 September 2011 13:29 (fourteen years ago)
Reading people talk about the Chekovian rug, but I can't remember it from anything before. Was it a thing earlier?
they showed him trip on it once earlier in the same episode when Skyler was there
Ted's death (scene with Saul seemed to imply he was dead) was pretty dumb but didn't detract from the episode at all reall since there was so much other stuff goin on. but I don't really get why they had to kill him, the check being sealed up and mailed to the IRS would have had the same result for the plot, no? (I guess if Ted was alive you could always force him to withdraw the money and have the check bounce and that's now an option now ... ?)
― dmr, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
*not an option
ted was rubbish and had a rubbish end
― conrad, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
ya - got the ending he deserved.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
hes gotta be dead, it's not like they're gonna rush him to the hospital
yeah it seems like one less thing for the writers to have to deal with (we saw skylar with the baby!) what with every other crazy thing converging in these last eps.
― johnny crunch, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
skyler needs to deal with the fact that she's culpable as well; this is gonna be her first taste of that power/shame dynamic that walt's been playing with for years.
― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
ted's death may have some repercussions for someone somehow down the line
I will never learn this lesson, but making predictions about breaking bad relying on some kind of stasis in the characters' relationships is just foolhardy, I mean we were all "gus will never go after walt's family" a couple months ago
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
walt didnt actually say he HOPED jesse would wind up in a barrel in mexico right? not hugely important & i kinda like jesse twisting walts words a bit
― johnny crunch, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
i noticed that too.
just rewatched the last three scenes with a coworker. SO AMAZING!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
Reckon Skylar is going to turn over that $650k to Ted in self-preservation only for Walt to suddenly and urgently need it for something.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:46 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
good call
― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
maybe ted is alive! could be the shocking reveal next week, cut to ted in a hospital bed planning his revenge against skylar
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
ted kills skylar, takes over the car wash empire
― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
ted + walt battle to the death in the car wash to the tune of "car wash"
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
omg...that ending was just tv on some whole other level. walt losing it and laughing was just amazing, and you think it's ramped up already then marie ringing, the utter sense of chaos and horror, srsly that last 5 mins is one of the most amazing bits of tv i've ever seen.
the ep as a whole was a bit disjointed until then but god it's well poised now.
can't see walt dying, to weigh in on the discussion upthread. walter white backed into a corner is walter white doing something fucking mental, he's proven this all the way through.
gus is going to be dead by the end of this season i think.
gotta consider also that walt's easiest way out now would be killing jesse.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
holy. balls.
― the morbius challopelago (cozen), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
actually that's my bet...gus lives, walt kills jesse. xpost
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
did anyone else lol at the beautiful ultra-grim comic timing of "i gave it to ted"...
besides walt i mean.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
jesse dying well before the end of the show's run is only SLIGHTLY less unlikely than walt dying. feel like you guys are maybe naive about any show killing off that major a character, much less actors who have won Emmys and will probably win more.
― some dude, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
i don't see Walt offing Jesse. i just can't see him doing that.
xposts
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
Ted's death was comic gold.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, September 26, 2011 12:22 PM (3 hours ago)
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
i am thinking tho - that Mike being left behind in Mexico has to have some sort of significance. him not being around for this last chapter has to affect things somehow.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
walt + hank form an alliance, just as they're about to mow down gus + jesse, mike crashes into them with a mexican airplane the end
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
that was my comment at the end of the episode, that now Jesse is basically the Gale in Walt's equation, the guy who needs to be gone for Walt to be indispensible again
I don't *think* they'll go there but
― dmr, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
"feel like you guys are maybe naive about any show killing off that major a character, much less actors who have won Emmys and will probably win more."
Agree. Neither Walt nor Jesse is dying.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
my comment to my wife I mean. not on here. (xp)
― dmr, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
I'll play devil's advocate here: why not kill walt? he'll likely be in the next season in a ton of flashbacks anyway, Cranston is co-producing the show and clearly involved in its direction and we've established that we don't need him to make an episode hum. We could get a whole season out of what happens when mr. white's gone easy.
― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu),
I love this idea, though I don't think it'll happen.
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
We should have a poll.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
i would bet my house on walt living but could see them killing jesse.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
if walt or jesse die it's not going to be this season
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Tyrus is probably going to die though.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
It seems like Walt legitimately has a chance to get out of the game now, but he's going to miss it because he has been misreading Gus all season.
― polyphonic, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, bad time to be a goon. I hope Saul's guys survive.
yeah like..why is walt saying his family are going to die, etc...does he just not trust gus, cos gus only made that threat as an "if you don't do what you're told" type thing.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
gus told walt if he tries to interfere w/ hank getting whacked his family is on the line, walt is trying to save hank + his own fam
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
― polyphonic, Monday, September 26, 2011 3:55 PM (3 minutes ago)
as always it's his stupid ego - the baddest of badasses is basically saying "you're free to go" and he responds with "ha! you still need me! or I'd be dead right now! I win!"
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, September 26, 2011 3:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that would require him letting hank be murdered
― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, September 26, 2011 7:35 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
This. I know it was very coen-bros dark slapstick, but i loled pretty hard.
― Rory's new misogynist car (Gukbe), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
really want to see walt cop it
― the morbius challopelago (cozen), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i see it's cos of hank, just that i dunno, seems like a slightly weird timeline of events.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
A bit of a lift from the death on the staircase in "Out of Sight," but no less funny. (re Ted's head-klonk)
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
made sense to me tho gus divulging his plan to kill hank to walt seemed like a "supervillain explains his entire plan to james bond" mechanism
xp
― black metal version of "the boy with the thorn in his side" (Edward III), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
i forgot about that! still lolzy though.
the oranges falling made me think of The Godfather, only in a sad, undignified way
xpost
― Rory's new misogynist car (Gukbe), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
in fairness the bit where gus told walt about his plan for hank was possibly him losing his sense a bit in the face of walt's resistance...
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
speaking of Gus divulging things, it seems like visiting Tio Hector to boast about killing his family might not be a great idea
― I DIED, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
the whole "NO NOT HANK" thing is crazy contrived to me because dude just almost got him killed in a car wreck and who among us would doubt that walt would TOTALLY shoot hank in the face if he was caught red handed.
― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
I think walt doesn't want hank to die
― conrad, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
dunno, i think walt likes hank. he had a look of sadness when hank spoke about getting the "gimp mobile" etc.
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
not better off ted
― cozen, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)