Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

if warnock exaggerates traore's sin now and comes down on him like a ton of bricks then maybe just maybe the kid will learn not to do it again when it might matter. and that, dearest arsenal fans, is how you make players out of raw talent.

as for the game, villa were pathetic and the ref's a fucking cunt. we've still got some issues to iron out but on a normal day would still have been worth a two goal victory.

I was disappointed Dunne didn't actually come out to accept his MOTM award, there's every possibility he just told them to fuck off though

and yes, the ref had a shocker

no, that is how you get midtable guys at best out of raw talent. whatever the fuck wenger did w/ henry at monaco and wilshere the past ten years is how you get players from raw talent.

i don't see the comparison between Wilshere and Henry?

Wilshere is 19 and he's a first team regular

what, getting blatantly super talented players to play like themselves? yeah whatever.

as if so happens, qpr actually are a midtable side. but in the newcastle and wolves games i was still surprised with how good traore was; certainly better than i'd ever seen him for arsenal. once he gets a bit of discipline trained into him he'll be a very decent player indeed. v plausibly a cut above yr upson, muamba, larsson types potentially.

btw ahoyhoy if i search the archives am i gonna find you spouting off somewhere saying how traore is the future and is further evidence of arsene's masterplan?

umm

yeah that was after he got motm in the wolves game? do keep up.

xpost Don't think there's a single QPR fan who wouldn't accept mid-table as a great achievement out of a team made up of perennial underachievers, honest toilers and mental flair players.

bit like arsenal really

tbf i've always gone gibbs >> traore.

fergie says telly has too much power

"When you shake hands with the devil you have to pay the price," he said. "Television is God at the moment."

Great way with words there.

do you get some kind of alert every time Ferguson gives an interview?

ah come on it's a keegan-esque quote, i might not have posted if it wasn't fergie but still would have thought it was dumb.

plus it's been plastered all over the BBC today

Kieran Richardson is a fucking awful player.

Just a bit of joshing. You can't deny you have a weakness for an inflammatory Fergie quote

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haha no i know, of course! it's not that it was inflammatory, just calling tv god and the devil within the same quote.

actually sort of beautifully put except don't credit fergie with that

I avoid Fergie rants tbh. Cast a brief eye over the headline and move on is the best policy i find

and yes, Richardson is a fucking awful player. The hatred i had for him when he played for Utd was strong

Wes Brown looking awful tonight as well, Norwich up 2-0.

bruce in hot water

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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is preparing to make a shock move for Manchester United striker Michael Owen, according to reports in Caughtoffside.com

that would be too perfect

When Fergie's complaining about the influence of TV, what he actually means is "we should be paid more money". He knows full well that if United could engineer an international rights deal similar to the one Barca or Real have then United would be sitting pretty.

that's a stretch

didn't he actually say that the distribution was fair?

actually, having just checked it he does sort of contradict himself on that issue.

clubs shd be free to negotiate their own rights deals providing they don't belong to a league and are free to negotiate individual meaningless friendlies

Sunderland defender Titus Bramble has been arrested on suspicion of sexual assault and possession of a Class A drug.

Same incident as before?

Maybe he's missing his brother.

oh, bramblepaws

he does have a history of being caught in possession

Mancini is alleged to have told Tevez he could “f***off back to Argentina” after the former City skipper defied his boss by refusing to come off the bench in Tuesday's Champions League group game.

City boss Mancini is also understood to have directed a similar volley of abuse at Edin Dzeko, telling him to “f*** off back to Bosnia,” after he reacted angrily to being subbed in the 2-0 defeat.

Would be hilarious if Mancini got the sack for this.

it's an employment law nightmare

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/poll/2011/sep/29/england-alex-oxlade-chamberlain-call

maybe a worse crime than their 'omg we have this super exclusive check back at 7' thing earlier this year.

he's had 1 cl game, should we call him up??????

just kinda imagining bobby going through the squad one by one after the game, finally culminating in owen hargreaves being told to f*** off back to canada

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/350448/

YEP my thoughts exactly

This would never have happened under Garry Cook.

You might think ED jests but not once in Cook's reign as chief executive did a high-profile striker decide he didn't want to play in a showpiece Champions League match. It never happened.

because this is their first time in the cl?

what does the next sentence say

tbf to the graun everyone is already p much certain ox is better than theo so if the latter is expected to get a call up every time then why not

he was v good last night