2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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hay I just got home from school I can't keep up with this thread.

The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Al Gore on Futurama = funnier than anything Kerry's ever done in his whole life

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

"I have ridden the mighty moon worm"

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/thumb/b/bd/3136t.jpg/300px-3136t.jpg

Obama campaign has been circulating this picture.

Eazy, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

http://cbs3.com/local/Political.Stabbing.montgomery.2.662239.html

gabbneb, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Authorities said brother-in-laws Jose Ortiz and Sean Shurelds

paging safire

gff, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Ortiz was jailed on $20,000 bail. If convicted of a felony crime, he will not be able to vote in the upcoming election.

Jordan, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

will the clinton campaign stop at nothing

max, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

a knife, yesterday:

http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/175x131/WBBM1005stabbinggeneric.jpg

StanM, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://i30.tinypic.com/zvs8i0.jpg

StanM, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Cheshire Cat to thread!

Aimless, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

latest dnc email blast

http://www.democrats.org/page/-/images/buttons/20080225_mccain_fec_button.jpg

dmr, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

mccain and bush look like they have a forcefield

dmr, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Y'know, guys, I'm down with taking on McCain about the campaign shit, but "WE ARE FILING A COMPLAINT" isn't exactly the best rallying cry.

en i see kay, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

WE ARE WRITING A STRONGLY WORDED EMAIL

en i see kay, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mfL5zECvBJQ

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.236.com/news/2008/02/22/thought_process_flowchart_hill_4644.php

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

o the bold lameness of the internets

El Tomboto, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Ted Kennedy Does Something Obnoxious But Kind Of Likeable Part One Billion

remy bean, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

In her speech following the Wisconsin results, Clinton articulated several contrasts between herself and Obama. The first was a contrast of style versus substance, speeches versus action. With this alleged contrast, she comes dangerously close to the line of evoking a long-standing stereotype about black men: that they are "slick."

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Just like her black husband, Slick Willie.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 25 February 2008 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

stretching_it.jpeg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 25 February 2008 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

ew

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 25 February 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I have a theory that, even though it would have been justified a few times already, Obama is going to hold off on the campaign equivalent of thatsracist.gif until the inevitable glaring attack on him, and then give a really nice "That's it, the American People and I are sick and tired of this blatant RACISM, and we're not going to take it anymore" speech at just the right time which will work wonderfully to his advantage. And, y'know, be a pretty nice moment in politics in general.

I tend not to read a lot of commentary/op-ed stuff, so this might be obvious or well-tread territory already.

en i see kay, Monday, 25 February 2008 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

you are slow

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:36 (2 hours ago) Link

yeah it was posted upthread already along with their shrugging off of the accusation

-- ciderpress, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:37 (2 hours ago) Link

The 24-minute ILX news cycle.

Hurting 2, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

CNN texas poll:

Obama 50% (+2)
Clinton 46% (-4)

margin of error 3.5%

dmr, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Clinton camp now unequivocally denying they had anything to do with Obama turban photo:

"I just want to make it very clear that we were not aware of it, the campaign didn't sanction it and don't know anything about it," Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said in a teleconference with reporters. "None of us have seen the e-mail in question. If anybody has independent reporting that they've done on it I would welcome it."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080225/ap_on_el_pr/obama_photo

o. nate, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_limited_hangout

gabbneb, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

Also, according to that AP article, that's an AP photo, so it wasn't exactly secret.

o. nate, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

Here's a fairly level-headed evaluation of the claims on both sides:

Breathe. Relax. The Drudge 'Dressed Obama' Photo, in Perspective

What's more, I'm reluctant to believe Drudge's account of the picture's provenance until I actually see the "circulated" email; it's totally possible that some anti-Democrat operative is attempting to tarnish both Clinton and Obama, bank-shot-style. As the New Republic's Jason Zengerle wrote when the Muslim-madrassa story first surfaced, "I suppose this information about Obama could have originated with people in Clinton's orbit. But let's not forget where this information appeared. And let's be on the lookout for who goes on the cable shows and wonders whether "Barack Hussein Obama" is "The Manchurian Madrassa Candidate." Something tells me it isn't going to be Hillary, or any liberal for that matter." Drudge isn't exactly a Hillary fan, or a reliable fact witness--to put it mildly.

o. nate, Monday, 25 February 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

initial non-denial is still o_O

deej, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

I hope no one here is under the impression that Hillary wouldn't give something to Drudge.

gabbneb, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://wonkette.com/assets/resources/2008/02/HillRI1.jpg

Hatch, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

ha that's pretty great actually

gff, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

they be like YEEEAAAAH when they song come on

gff, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

is there any existing pic from her current campaign where's she's not looking like that

latebloomer, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.snappedshot.com/uploads/Parody/deanScream.jpg

jaymc, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

"YAHH TRICK YAHH"

ciderpress, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

^^^lol

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

o nate that is not an unequivocal denial

YGS, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

McCain Withheld Controversial Abramoff Email

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/mccain-withheld-controver_n_88304.html

recently going not so smooth for senator mccain

jhøshea, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 00:44 (eighteen years ago)

seriously.

McCain seeks to retract 'I lose' statement

On Monday morning, McCain had told reporters that if he can't convince the American people the United States is succeeding, "then I lose. I lose," according to the Associated Press.

"We quickly retracted that," McCain later said of the comment. "I was not allowed to retract it, obviously. I don't mean that I'll quote ‘lose.' I mean that it's an important issue in the judgment of the American voters.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

Now is the season of a thousand lazy zings masquerading as political commentary.

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/12845/thumbs/s-BUSH-PATRIOTISM-PROBLEM-large.jpg

StanM, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 07:37 (eighteen years ago)

A 27-point increase in Obama's support nationwide since January 13. Astounding.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

I havent heard any more than soundbites from either candidate and dont really follow US politics very closely but that is amazing.

I find it hard to get past the voice + wild bug eyes +sour lemon face+ pantsuit appearance of hillary, while Obama is the master of the soundbite. Personally he leaves me a little cold in a clinical way, I want to like him, RACIST maybe but theres a feeling I dont like about the guy, oddly Hillary feels more sincere and warm.

Kiwi, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

Dodd to endorse Obama

gabbneb, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

Another reason Hillary can't win: she's not left-handed.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08056/860162-294.stm

StanM, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

^haha THIS^

British R4/World Service going APESHIT over the Somali ceremonial dress photo and how it might have got to Drudge. Also somewhat amazed to hear BBC naming Drudge at all. What I find properly hilarious is that Obama even manages to rock that look, or at least look less silly in ceremonial dress than every politician I can think of. Hillary does not appear to be able to make friends with textiles of any kind and it's like she's still stuck with some Color Me Beautiful book from the '80s.

It is funny to read the Obama autobiography with 20/20 hindsight. I recommend. Obama actually worked for a Nader offshoot in NYC for three months in say '83, trying to implement recycling programmes. Nader is turning into the Harold Stassen of C21, a quarter-century hence.

As to Hillary, feminism and man-management, and why women mark her down for 'standing by her man', if my mother is anything to go by, she would have LOVED it if HRC would have divorced the Screaming Lobster of Hope before embarking on her career in elected office. She might have even considered voting for her in such a scenario, and so would lots of women on the working to middle-class spectrum who are a similar age to Hillary, basically a whole generation of women who have raised families etc. in the fallout of divorcing men who didn't measure up.

I too want Americans to benefit from universal health care FREE AT POINT OF NEED and to have this necessary part of life somehow not dependent on a negotiation with a potential employer or if self-employed, or paying mega playground-bully money to some insurer in exchange for a $5K deductible. The NHS was set up in the UK when there was fuck-all money to do it but there was a collective will to make it happen, so the excuses people make for it being impossible in the current climate are pfffft, really. All I know is that one candidate can't make it happen whoever they are, it has to be bigger than an individual.

Obama is no Blair - I think he's more like a Kevin Rudd type.

suzy, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:46 (eighteen years ago)


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