Netflix - Not bad! Qwikster - uh, never mind...

the only really irritating thing about this is not crosspollinating the streaming from my dvd queue. also agree w/max on hating the idea of bunches of streaming channels, fuck that noise.

have they said anything more about this supposed gamefly component btw?

im sure im just reiterating what other people have said, but not jumping into the skipping 1472 messages gulf so youll just have to bear with me

video store is not an option for a lot of people, and the selection on netflix is hardly catholic. i mean i guess i agree w/ everything except the 'they have everything but obscure morbius shit' line w/r/t their streaming section b/c at this point they don't, honestly, have a lot of top shelf shit. i mean i'm a guy who really likes to watch columbo, so i'm happy, but...

i understand how a variety of streaming channels would annoy but i dunno if i'm "ideologically" opposed to any absence of a monopoly

and yeah, if I was back in central PA I'd be PISSED OFF about this shit

feel like what youll see is many places where you can view everything ever made forced to differentiate themselves via product and original programing

i like the idea of a bunch of similar services with similarly-sized services competing on price and speed and GUI (and maybe library content at the margins)--but im deeply afraid of six or seven $10/month subscription services run by (& being the exclusive source of content from) studios and content creators which is what sony & nbcu and everyone else wants

yeah exactly

this is especially scary in the case of a conglomerate like NBC/comcast which would control not only the content and distribution but the infrastructure bringing you the content--meaning no one would fight them if they wanted to throttle bandwidth or charge you extra for streaming video over yr dsl line

like i said above if i trusted that the FCC/congress was looking out for my best interests, keeping the internet open & free & fast, being tough on mergers and so forth, i would feel less invested in this.

i'd see this as a reason to be annoyed with netflix right now

i mean if anyone should be "visionary" about this it should be the CEO of netflix not the folks who keep Brad Pitt and Leo movies in the netflix 100

maybe i'll just get really into board games

lol

i like the idea of a bunch of similar services with similarly-sized services competing on price and speed and GUI (and maybe library content at the margins)--but im deeply afraid of six or seven $10/month subscription services run by (& being the exclusive source of content from) studios and content creators which is what sony & nbcu and everyone else wants

― max, Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:20 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

feel like the naturally arising antidote to this is piracy

If they really want to get rid of their DVD business, giving it a shitty name isn't a bad tactic.

like any service has to be better than piracy, dont think 5+ services will do the trick

maybe board games about pirates

board like a pirate day

^ on the doubloons

who will be the google+ of streaming movies!!!

its me!!!

http://www.google.ca/logos/2011/gplus11-hp.gif

so jho you wanna get in on the groundfloor of this streaming content metalibrary aggregator to help manage the distributed future w/ me? I need an aggressively savvy internet pirate/hobo to help steer this ship

http://i.imgur.com/aqiSu.gif
its me!!!

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:24 PM (11 minutes ago)

http://i.imgur.com/7x0ET.jpg

eye eye capn

http://i.imgur.com/aqiSu.gif
its me!!!
http://www.google.ca/logos/2011/gplus11-hp.gif

btw there is really a disappointing dearth of hobo picture on the internet

lol @ the internet

SFW hobo pictures, that is

have you tried thehobobay.org

What Mr. Hastings doesn't seem to get is that just because streaming and DVD rentals are operated completely differently behind the scenes, that to customers they are very similar. For customers, "Netflix" meant watching a movie, by whatever means. I don't care about how different streaming vs. mailing a DVD vs. renting a DVD at a kiosk is for you guys. It's all about the customers and their perception. Now to read your movie reviews, I'll have to go to two different websites - which makes sense, because obviously how good a movie is depends on whether it was streamed or watched on DVD. Yeah, that makes alot of sense....

oh huh i had not thought about the review aspect

i too wanna know about the vidyagame component of this; gamefly sucks and i'd love to try something different

"oh huh i had not thought about the review aspect"

Yeah that's pretty lame. Although it might be shared by both sites...

If the ratings are handled separately, it will be interesting to see the data in DVD v. streaming!

I am lovin the pirate option, and I bet there are more than a few disgruntled ex-NF subscribers who didn't bat an eye, cancelled their subs and are downloading like mad. I don't do it cuz it just takes too long. There are a bunch of companies stepping up and as someone said upthread, smelling the blood in the water. One of them is Dish, who bought Blockbuster and is now setting up their streaming division. With the BB inventory, uh that could leave a mark on NF and revive BB (who woulda thunk it?!?)BB still has the in the mail option too. I'd like to see if Dish offers a standalone streaming option via Wii or xbox or Roku like hulu does - if so it would be VERY attractive. Also today Amazon is really promoting it's effort to increase their streaming "plus" svc by working with studios and making deals for new releases, etc. That also could sting NF. I hate that I am so crazy mad about this issue, it's a business move, but it just feels so cold; but then I still like my Tivo with it's silly cute interface over the dull DTV DVR. It's the kitch that gets me I guess, and I have an irrational emotional attachment to all things TV and NF WAS the bomb until it dropped the 60% increase bomb.

@ Max: OTOH, if NF stock keeps falling in the market, I will buy in (two-faced bitch I am) b/c I think that ultimately they will come back with a vengeance, but I secretly hope they do a Blockbuster and tank.

schadenwoo

wiggy & lorax will eventually own 90% of netflix stock

According to several senior media executives, who wish to remain anonymous, Facebook has signed partnership deals with the likes of Hulu, in a bid to provide a content offering, in the form of a large media platform, directly to its users.

^ see, this is the type of shit I'm talking about, things could turn on a dime if hulu successfully piggybacks onto fb's user base. not that this will necessarily put netflix out of business but competition in the space is going to get rough real quick, netflix can afford to make 0 mistakes, they can't give ppl any excuses to migrate from their platform.

one win for netflix is that they are ubiquitous on hardware, but that could change quickly too.

i tried out hulu plus on my 360 and i hated everything about it so much i didnt even use my full free 7 days. if that shit becomes the winner in this i will join jordan on the board game train.

"netflix can afford to make 0 mistakes"

they can probably make at least 4 more "qwikster"-level mistakes and their competitors have to capitalize pretty flawlessly on each of them, otherwise the mistake doesn't count.

looking forward to quackster, new streaming duck service. pf changs better execute flawlessly.

4 more qwikster mistakes and they lose a turn, must return to pirate bay

hulus problem is that its the result of a partnership btw a bunch of studios--cbs has already pulled out figuring it can make more money on its own--maybe facebook can save it but its kind of inherently unstable

Is losing CBS worse than losing Starz (semi-serious question)?

yeah--they have shows that people watch. the value of starz was in their movie content, which was always not hugely better than netflix's basic library (imo).

i mean i love party down as much as the next guy but it wasnt exactly a huge hit

I hated the Starz movie content because it all looked really bad. It had some weird compression on it or something.

sorry i got my facts wrong--CBS was never a partner in hulu

eh if i were a steaming media company id rather have my shit built into like every new tv/dvd player/video game console than on facebook, like facebook want to become the internet an be everything to everybody but its not gonna happen

yeah, netflix has hardware ubiquity which right now is their ace in the hole, but one firmware update and I could conceivably have hulu on my bluray player