Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

In fairness I read and bitch about so many politics/football/music writers I dislike and disagree with, so I'd never say 'if you don't like it don't read it', but at least those are vaguely aimed at me.

I wasn't being defensive in the slightest, I was having a laugh. "if you don't like it don't read it" followed by let's have a "who is being defensive" contest, it's like an Internet argument course here.

Coupled with "why do you care", well as I said, I don't, massively, but you thought my ridiculing that question was being defensive...

As for lex, some wild assertions there, I read the guardian every day actually.

All this over three lines, Jesus.

it's like an Internet argument course here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

You read the Guardian every day and then post all this stuff on this thread?! Dear Lord, you're like a fashion writer who hates fashion! Except you're not getting paid for it ho ho.

Would be worse if I was!

But now you posted here you're stuck in the game too.

i like reading the web only hacks actually

gives me hope to see people without writing skills can still get published. i can still dream that maybe one day i can play in a football team.

yeah but the web-only guys are the equivalent of those dudes who make up the majority of Masters teams who you don't remember

Making some big claims based on one (crap) episode of a tv show
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2011/sep/22/last-nights-tv-220911?newsfeed=true

"pseudo-punk", stopped reading when I got to this.

Accurate though isn't it? Or do you object to all uses of "pseudo"?

i'm sure Fresh Meat is fucking awful but so's the word "pseudo" espesh if u use it re: punk

Dunno, that whole "we used to love the rolling stones and the faces, but since they are out of fash, we got spiky haircuts" phase sort of defines "pseudo-punk". (you can stop reading now)

Yeah, it's exactly what the character of Vivian is.

Ah, I have read the article now. Dude didn't like the Young Ones oh woe is him.

No, I was replying to NV about the "pseudo-punk" angle, not all uses are wrong. That article certainly is.

If Vyvian is a pseudo-punk on the grounds of Ade Edmundson was not actually a punk himself (untrue), then "The Queen" as played by Helen Mirren is a pseudo-QueenofEngland.

Hang on, "Fresh Meat" had a femidom joke? They don't even make them anymore!

punk is arguably a "pseudo" genre. making claims for an authentic punk is a bit ridiculous given the circumstances.

True. Most (if not all but the very young) of the original punk bands sacked their covers of the Stones/(Small)Faces once they got going.

i kept waiting for the bit where that article would cleverly undercut its fulsomeness, perhaps with the sentence fragment "IN OPPOSITE LAND"

First episode of Fresh Meat was pretty funny actually. Some of the characters are very obviously funnier than others but the whole thing has potential.

"I want it to go dark" is the lame comedy hack's answer to everything. Surely we had enough "going dark" in the 00s?

enough going dark forever. there's not much dark about being a student.

It's pretty dark as it is though, any further and it would start to lurch into Nighty Night territory.

I bought the Guardian today.

Because I want to support the paper, at least a bit.

I went into a newsagent and the old fellow said: '£1.20 - new price'.

I counted out numerous coppers.

His presumed grandson counted them in, as though preparing to take over the shop one day, as he always does.

lol

Amanda Knox and her former Italian boyfriend

Yep, he's not italian any more!

Even the Mail employs a token leftie or two so I assume he's the Guardian's designated coalition cheerleader in the interests of balance. Still aggravating though, because he tends to appear as the man from the Guardian rather than an outlying columnist.

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Julian Glover makes it official.
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/36967/cams_new_sam_seaborne_julian_glover.html

has to be a positive, he's so shit even at making the tory case for something

Julian is not to be confused with his namesake, the actor Julian Glover...who once played Darth Vader's sidekick in The Empire Strikes Back.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/contributor/2007/09/28/julian_glover_140x140.jpg
Darth Vader's sidekick

http://cf1.imgobject.com/profiles/045/4c8fced07b9aa17b4b000045/julian-glover-original.jpg
Julian Glover

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/8835038/Guardian-could-open-shop-to-combat-losses.html

lolololololol

thought the brown rice concessions in London were already sewed up tbh

Echoing the other comments - it will be a day worth celebrating when the rotten egg of a newspaper that the guardian is goes out of business and hopefully we can see the end of political correctness, mass repartriations of immigrants, close down the bbc and withdraw from the EU.

I wonder if this also works in reverse: if Britain withdrew from the EU would the Guardian magically disappear?

thought the Lib Dems were against most of that stuff

in secret

i didn't realise their financial situation was that bad! oy.

no mention on this page of the fact that they ran the gaddafi picture above the fold? because i have to say, i did not think a lot of that

if the Graun goes then we lose the last voice of centre-Right dissent in UK journalism ;_;

Opinions of the ipad app? I'm on the fence, but the fact that I don't enjoy using it says more than anything else.

i think the basic design flaw is that it puts the guardian on your ipad

The shop idea smacks of desperation; can’t possibly see how that could work or function, especially somewhere’s that nowhere like Covent Garden. The only solution is for them to put up a paywall and never mind principles.

I think it's possible that the shop idea isn't, ahem, true.

Perhaps it's all being done through Positive Weather Solutions.

the caption on the main picture on the guardian's homepage currently reads:

Andy Williams, Larry Robison and Steven Grieveson committed shocking crimes, in California, Texas and Sunderland. Their parents take about the shock and sorrow

step yr game up, guardian.

quite a poor piece after the first one imo...also are they now doing news stories that ressemble the plots of recent movies?

Other actors, directors and writers are also creating esoteric, self-reflective and ironic work.

WES ANDERSON

Director Wes Anderson's Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums, The Darjeeling Limited and The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou have all featured his trademark style of stilted dialogue, long pauses and surreal plot twists.

DAVE EGGERS

Boston-born writer Dave Eggers shot to fame with his memoir titled A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius, which is a classic hipster ironic statement.

ZOOEY DESCHANEL

Californian Zooey Deschanel has trademarked the goofy, gorgeous love interest look in films ranging from Elf to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy to (500) Days of Summer.

MICHAEL CERA

No actor has perhaps typified the male "hipster" aesthetic as much as Canadian Michael Cera whose films include Juno, Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World and Youth in Revolt.

oh god

i enjoy the work of 3 of those hipster scumbags :(