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o'donoghue ahern mansergh

I see McGuinness has trotted out the "West Brit" insult directed at anyone who doesn't feel comfortable with one of the former Army Council chiefs as our* head of state.

*Not that I get a fucking vote, I bet.

he has? Wtg mairtin that'll show em

Yes. Apparently he's fine to answer questions about the past though, if the time period in question is restricted to the last two years.

keep it relevant, be fair

I bet he has loads of opinions about Jedward!

was kinda hoping he'd run an open and honest campaign, he has a lot to gain that way imo. Getting agg-defensive on day two makes this a pointless exercise

"vote for me and i'll tell the grieving families where their loved ones are buried?"

hahahaha

you'd want a promise that he'll not kill anyone during the term too

http://img.rasset.ie/000512cd-440.jpg

dana is an ugly, ugly person and even though she hasn't a chance it's not good that she's convinced enough councils that she deserved a chance at running.

Is michael d gonna walk this?

Will norris carry the urban centres? Will mcguinness the rural areas?

How does a presidential vote work anyway?

idk its been a long time since we had one

Still feel Michael D. will win on transfers as everyone else is objectionable to a majority of the electorate.

is dana just talking shit?

or she's actually mental

I HAVE HEARD WHAT IT IS.

dish!

it's such a fucking sideshow, at least she brings entertainment value

i am a bit wary of posting a potentiall libelous statement in a public forum, so I can just say that it is allegedly a criminal act committed by a relative of hers - so it is not really fair for her to be held account for it, as she is hardly responsible for her family members.

she's not being held to account for it she's using it as a stunt

fair enough re not posting, smarter move. i'm sure i'll hear soon enough!

You can see the "story" at http://www.irishcentral.com/ - it's completely irrelevant to the campaign.

how d'we feel about the various amendments?

Personally- govt death panels no, judges pay on the table yes

8 former attorneys general feel strongly about this

Can't believe gallagher is gonna win this, just can't see it

well he's fucked now

hopefully

yeah hes not coming out of this debate well if thats what youre referring to.

it is. God knows what will happen tho. I'm kind of zen about the presidency tbh, wd gladly swap Gallagher in the aras for Coppinger in Dublin West and nos to the two const amendments

i'm either way on judge's pay being a vital part of separation of judiciary and executive, tbph.

Gallagher, just don't like him. Have a feeling that if there's anything beneath the shitetalk buzzwords then it's nasty. And he's FF, a celtic tiger entrepreneur and probably owes us money.

oh yeah don't get me wrong i HATE gallagher. and I do find it somewhat depressing that so many Irish people are apparently considering swinging right back to FF within the fucken year. but it's such a meaningless gig that he can stew in the park for 14 years afaic. think he's finished tho now, altho who knows?

and yep judges' pay is less important than the other referendum.

Well FF+FG always get dunno 60% of the people behind them...FF have no official candidate and nobody likes Gay Mitchell, so there's a massive floating centre-right and rural vote that has to go somewhere.

mcguinness, tho it'll fracture obv

not on right or left lines, tho, on rural nationalist ones

Yeah and Dana is obviously going for obviously going for some of that vote too. But for one reason or another it looks like they're splitting for Gallagher now.

Fair few friends on Facebook trying to whip up support for Michael D; he'll get all the Norris transfers but I don't know how he can get to 50%+1 unless Gallagher's support collapses.

Didn't see tonight's action though.

michael d will get everyone's transfers imo

fg voters will vote michael d first, imo, if they think gallagher has a chance

dana unpopular, can't really see her drumming up support from any demographic tbh. Hard right catholics? I dunno, maybe it's a bigger market than i think, or at least they'll all show up on the day.

highly doubt ff/fg will get 60% tho

the audience on last nights debate doing a collective "AWWWW!" to Gay Mitchell after pleading to Pat Kenny to ask relevant questions about the role of president (so as he could waffle on) was hilarious.

i think seanín may just fall away in a sthrong wakeness

took a few envelopes, passed them here and there, nbd.

how much of the michael d transfer logic is just out west assumptions though

sure this is it

i for one welcome our new fraggle overlord

hear hear

^

All hail Michael D. He asked my Mum to a dance once.

my dad rid haughey's daughter a few times but hey it's not a contest

you win

Pretty sure everyone in Ireland has stories about an intersection with a "notable public figure".

lol i was going to say i didnt but actually i do but i wont post cuz it isnt rly interesting or salacious

also deems i was trying to work out what 'rid' was a euphemism for in that context but it turns out it was the opposite of a euphemism

yep